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The earth is flat, can you not see?

All intelligent and healthy human follow their senses, and your senses tell you that the earth is flat. Will you listen to your senses or NASa? If the earth was round you would go upside down in antarctica, how can you go upside down and not sense it? This alone should tell you that gravity is nonsense, heh heh.

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You guys are going to think I'm crazy but I think there's a duality at work due to the relativity of perspective. The latest NASA WMAP mission mapped out the background radiation of the universe and discovered compelling evidence that the universe is flat. It approximates its own critical density level, which essentially means the force of acceleration outwards corresponds to the accumulated force of gravity pulling everything back in.

Of course, from our own perspective, the Earth is an oblate spheroid, but the point I am making is that this would not necessarily be the case to someone who was looking at the universe from the outside.

Side: Flat
Sv3rige(163) Disputed
1 point

This is exactly what I mean, we are experiencing reality on a flat earth, from outside the flat earth it may look like a sphere, but it you zoom out more it looks flat again. That's two flats versus one round, so logically it's objectively flat.

Side: Round
xMathFanx(1742) Clarified
1 point

@Sv3rige, "we are experiencing reality on a flat earth, from outside the flat earth it may look like a sphere, but it you zoom out more it looks flat again. That's two flats versus one round, so logically it's objectively flat."

How far out do you want to zoom? Do you accept pictures of other planets, stars, ect.?

Furthermore, how would your idea of a "Flat Earth" (I would like you to expand on what exactly you mean by that btw; e.i. Flat like a pancake, or piece of paper, or in some other way?) comport with the known models of Gravitation? The reason the Earth is nearly spherical (spheroid) is because the force of gravity is pulling the material inward toward the center of mass and an object that has more mass has a greater gravitational pull. After a certain mass is reached where the gravitational pull is sufficiently large, the only way to get all the mass as close to planet's center of gravity as possible is to form a sphere. The reason why this does not happen with much smaller bodies is that the gravitational pull is too weak.

Do you reject all of this? Were you not aware of the reasoning/explanation? Do you have an alternative explanation that you would like to submit?

Side: Flat
xMathFanx(1742) Clarified
1 point

Do you think other planets are flat? The moon? The Sun? Other Stars? What are your ideas on the shape of asteroids?

Btw, if you have compelling evidence of a "Flat Earth" to such an a extent that it reasonably warrants an active belief in such a model this would be such a revolutionary/transformative view of the Universe and known laws of nature, you would win the Noble Prize in Physics no question and go down in the History of Science as a legend comparative to Galileo, Newton, Copernicus, Kepler (although I suppose you would actually be bigger than all of them because you would be proving them all wrong). Physics would essentially have to start from scratch.

Does this give you pause/doubt in your beliefs at all?

Side: Flat
1 point

I'ma figure this out with the dictionary.. Here are some definitions courtesy of Merriam-Webster

How can the earth flat?

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Lets look at some definitions of "earth"

Definition of earth

the fragmental material composing part of the surface of the globe; especially :cultivable soil

Ok, so apparently all the dirt and rocks on the surface of this mysterious globe ...

definition of flat

"resting with a surface against something"

...resting with a surface against something?

Well it seems to be that all the dirt, rocks, and soul are clearly resting with a surface against the globe.

Duh, the earth is flat.

lol

Side: Flat
cruzaders(341) Disputed
1 point

Dude the rocks and shit are resting against space... duh , and your dictionnary is politically oriented plesa provide us with real proof or begone spawn of satan!

Side: Round
5 points

Heh heh....heh.........huh?

Quite obviously the world is round. You aren't upside down in Antarctica, because everyone is being pulled towards the center of the earth. Now, IF it were flat, there would be no core, because the core would simply float away and we would all die.

Side: Round
2 points

Heh heh....heh.........huh?

That made me laugh.

I can't even fathom how people still think the earth is flat. There's so much evidence to it being round, ignoring that just seems so foolish.

Side: Round
3 points

Welcome to the year 2017 there are several simple proofs that demolish your assertions and it's obvious it's you who cannot see,

If you' go for a walk down a beach and look at the horizon, you might have noticed a very interesting phenomenon: Approaching ships do not just “appear” out of the horizon (like they should have if the world was flat), but rather seem to emerge from beneath the sea.

The reason ships appear as if they “emerge from the waves” is because the world is not flat: It’s round.

Side: Round
cruzaders(341) Disputed
0 points

Thats not a proof, maybe the earth is just round under the water

Side: Flat
Dermot(5453) Disputed
3 points

You're the reason your country has to put directions on shampoo.

Side: Round
Mint_tea(4119) Clarified
2 points

PFF HAHAHAHAHAAAAA

XD I like it, nice.

Side: Flat
2 points

My senses see things get smaller and disappear over the horizon. This is especially true when I look out over the ocean. A horizon suggests the gradual curve of a very large sphere, which means I can observe with my own eyes evidence the earth is round.

Side: Round
2 points

Question:

Who figured out the Earth is round?

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Answer:

It has actually been known that the Earth was round since the time of the ancient Greeks. I believe that it was Pythagoras who first proposed that the Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C. As I recall, he based his idea on the fact that he showed the Moon must be round by observing the shape of the terminator (the line between the part of the Moon in light and the part of the Moon in the dark) as it moved through its orbital cycle. Pythagoras reasoned that if the Moon was round, then the Earth must be round as well. After that, sometime between 500 B.C. and 430 B.C., a fellow called Anaxagoras determined the true cause of solar and lunar eclipses - and then the shape of the Earth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was also used as evidence that the Earth was round.

Around 350 BC, the great Aristotle declared that the Earth was a sphere (based on observations he made about which constellations you could see in the sky as you travelled further and further away from the equator) and during the next hundred years or so, Aristarchus and Eratosthenes actually measured the size of the Earth!

Side: Round
1 point

I'll refer to the great man that said: Stupid is as stupid does."

Side: Round
1 point

Where does the sun go when it sets? Where does the sun come from when it rises?

I don't know if the earth is round or flat, but that seems like a pretty good case for the round earth.

Side: Round
3 points

Where does the sun go when it sets? Where does the sun come from when it rises?

It doesn't go anywhere. The world turns.

I don't know if the earth is round or flat, but that seems like a pretty good case for the round earth.

A flat Earth could still rotate.

Side: Flat
TzarPepe(792) Clarified
2 points

The coin flip earth.

Fascinating.

Someone needs to look into this. For science.

Side: Flat
1 point

No one is even taking this debate seriously, that's because the earth is round. But then again at this size perspective is so skewed I don't even know what's real anymore.

Side: Round
1 point

No one is even taking this debate seriously, that's because the earth is round. I don't need to argue or show evidence, the earth is unquestionably round.

False. The Earth is an oblate spheroid. An oblate spheroid is a type of ellipsoid.

Side: Flat

I would highly appreciate if you answered all four of my questions.

Side: Round

I was trying not to go off on you! I tried gentleness and respect but you have made it almost impossible with your horrible attitude!

Side: Round
0 points

If the earth was flat, then explain to me how you can end up at the same place again by just walking straight?

If the earth is flat, you wouldn't reach point A again by just walking straight. Unless you tell me that there is a invisible portal that you go through. lawls. idk.

Side: Round
1 point

If the earth was flat, then explain to me how you can end up at the same place again by just walking straight?

You can't do that bro. You'd reach an ocean first.

Side: Flat
0 points

If the earth is flat then the moon is flat. Why would earth be the only flat planet? You can tell the moon isn't flat just by looking at it. If you were on the moon and looked at earth you would be able to tell that the earth is round. That is my argument.

Side: Round
0 points

That is my argument.

It's lucky your conclusions are correct because your argument is stupid.

Side: Flat
-1 points

I know my last argument wasn't with gentleness and respect but it's for the sake of my argument.

Side: Round
-3 points
BoneMaster(-17) Disputed
1 point

How is my argument stupid?

Your question is stupid. You said the Earth must be round because the Moon is round. That is over the border of stupid and into the land of retarded. It's like saying Earth has water so the Moon must have water.

Side: Flat
Shock_Fox_YT(14) Disputed
0 points

Saying "The earth has water so the moon has water" is not the same as saying "The moon is round so the earth is round". If you think the argument you just made is smart you're mistaken. If somebody says "The earth has water that means the moon does too" they're wrong. If they say "The moon and every other other planet is round the earth is too" that is valid. Why would earth be the only flat planet? Why would the government lie about something as stupid as this? If I say "This cake is pink that means every other cake is too" I'd be wrong. If I said If this shoe is made to put on feet so that means every other shoe is meant to go on feet too" I'd be correct.

Side: Round
Shock_Fox_YT(14) Disputed
0 points

It wasn't a question. It was a statement! You must be extremely stupid to think it was a question.

Side: Round