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The earth is flat, can you not see?
All intelligent and healthy human follow their senses, and your senses tell you that the earth is flat. Will you listen to your senses or NASa? If the earth was round you would go upside down in antarctica, how can you go upside down and not sense it? This alone should tell you that gravity is nonsense, heh heh.
You guys are going to think I'm crazy but I think there's a duality at work due to the relativity of perspective. The latest NASA WMAP mission mapped out the background radiation of the universe and discovered compelling evidence that the universe is flat. It approximates its own critical density level, which essentially means the force of acceleration outwards corresponds to the accumulated force of gravity pulling everything back in.
Of course, from our own perspective, the Earth is an oblate spheroid, but the point I am making is that this would not necessarily be the case to someone who was looking at the universe from the outside.
This is exactly what I mean, we are experiencing reality on a flat earth, from outside the flat earth it may look like a sphere, but it you zoom out more it looks flat again. That's two flats versus one round, so logically it's objectively flat.
@Sv3rige, "we are experiencing reality on a flat earth, from outside the flat earth it may look like a sphere, but it you zoom out more it looks flat again. That's two flats versus one round, so logically it's objectively flat."
How far out do you want to zoom? Do you accept pictures of other planets, stars, ect.?
Furthermore, how would your idea of a "Flat Earth" (I would like you to expand on what exactly you mean by that btw; e.i. Flat like a pancake, or piece of paper, or in some other way?) comport with the known models of Gravitation? The reason the Earth is nearly spherical (spheroid) is because the force of gravity is pulling the material inward toward the center of mass and an object that has more mass has a greater gravitational pull. After a certain mass is reached where the gravitational pull is sufficiently large, the only way to get all the mass as close to planet's center of gravity as possible is to form a sphere. The reason why this does not happen with much smaller bodies is that the gravitational pull is too weak.
Do you reject all of this? Were you not aware of the reasoning/explanation? Do you have an alternative explanation that you would like to submit?
how would your idea of a "ROUND Earth" (I will expand on flat earth, it's like a disk with a ring of ice known as antarctica surrounding it, it exists in a form of virtual reality so once you go beyond a certain point below or above the earth or beyond the ice border you will baically hit a wall) or gravity comport with the known models of common sense? The reason the Earth is nearly flat (flatoid) is because the force of virtual reality makes anything beyond this experience necessary, why would we need to create external space or planets when the purpose of our existence is right here on flat ground?. After a certain mass is reached where the gravitational pull is sufficiently large, scientists admit that they don't understand how the force of gravity can hold things like stars and galaxies together.. The reason why this does not happen with much smaller bodies is that the gravitational pull is too non-existent.
Do you think other planets are flat? The moon? The Sun? Other Stars? What are your ideas on the shape of asteroids?
Btw, if you have compelling evidence of a "Flat Earth" to such an a extent that it reasonably warrants an active belief in such a model this would be such a revolutionary/transformative view of the Universe and known laws of nature, you would win the Noble Prize in Physics no question and go down in the History of Science as a legend comparative to Galileo, Newton, Copernicus, Kepler (although I suppose you would actually be bigger than all of them because you would be proving them all wrong). Physics would essentially have to start from scratch.
Does this give you pause/doubt in your beliefs at all?
Are you familiar with the Holographic Universe Hypothesis? I can send you a link if you are not familiar with it and would like to see something on it.
Dude the rocks and shit are resting against space... duh , and your dictionnary is politically oriented plesa provide us with real proof or begone spawn of satan!
Quite obviously the world is round. You aren't upside down in Antarctica, because everyone is being pulled towards the center of the earth. Now, IF it were flat, there would be no core, because the core would simply float away and we would all die.
Welcome to the year 2017 there are several simple proofs that demolish your assertions and it's obvious it's you who cannot see,
If you' go for a walk down a beach and look at the horizon, you might have noticed a very interesting phenomenon: Approaching ships do not just “appear” out of the horizon (like they should have if the world was flat), but rather seem to emerge from beneath the sea.
The reason ships appear as if they “emerge from the waves” is because the world is not flat: It’s round.
It has actually been known that the Earth was round since the time of the ancient Greeks. I believe that it was Pythagoras who first proposed that the Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C. As I recall, he based his idea on the fact that he showed the Moon must be round by observing the shape of the terminator (the line between the part of the Moon in light and the part of the Moon in the dark) as it moved through its orbital cycle. Pythagoras reasoned that if the Moon was round, then the Earth must be round as well. After that, sometime between 500 B.C. and 430 B.C., a fellow called Anaxagoras determined the true cause of solar and lunar eclipses - and then the shape of the Earth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse was also used as evidence that the Earth was round.
Around 350 BC, the great Aristotle declared that the Earth was a sphere (based on observations he made about which constellations you could see in the sky as you travelled further and further away from the equator) and during the next hundred years or so, Aristarchus and Eratosthenes actually measured the size of the Earth!
My senses see things get smaller and disappear over the horizon. This is especially true when I look out over the ocean. A horizon suggests the gradual curve of a very large sphere, which means I can observe with my own eyes evidence the earth is round.
No one is even taking this debate seriously, that's because the earth is round. But then again at this size perspective is so skewed I don't even know what's real anymore.
No one is even taking this debate seriously, that's because the earth is round. I don't need to argue or show evidence, the earth is unquestionably round.
False. The Earth is an oblate spheroid. An oblate spheroid is a type of ellipsoid.
If the earth was flat, then explain to me how you can end up at the same place again by just walking straight?
If the earth is flat, you wouldn't reach point A again by just walking straight. Unless you tell me that there is a invisible portal that you go through. lawls. idk.
If the earth is flat then the moon is flat. Why would earth be the only flat planet? You can tell the moon isn't flat just by looking at it. If you were on the moon and looked at earth you would be able to tell that the earth is round. That is my argument.
His argument is stupid? You claim that the earth is flat! There is too much compelling evidence against your argument and you still believe that the earth is flat. And, his argument has a correct conclusion, that's all he needs. You don't have a correct conclusion, do you? No, you don't, so don't try to beat other arguments.
No you didn't, you anti-intellectual troglodyte cretin. Scroll up two inches and you will see me claim the Earth is an oblate spheroid, a type of ellipsoid.
Using a fallacy now, are you? Attacking the person themselves...I had just been looking at my friend's argument, at that time I hadn't seen your arguments.
You're a pussy bro. Nomenclature will decimate you with his Enhanced Radiation Weapons of neutron smashing telomere snapping brain cell frying death rays. And then he will make you swallow a cobalt bomb which is the shape and size of a ten inch black dildo. And it will explode inside of your stomach and you will shit radioactive fallout for the next 100 years.
Your question is stupid. You said the Earth must be round because the Moon is round. That is over the border of stupid and into the land of retarded. It's like saying Earth has water so the Moon must have water.
Saying "The earth has water so the moon has water" is not the same as saying "The moon is round so the earth is round". If you think the argument you just made is smart you're mistaken. If somebody says "The earth has water that means the moon does too" they're wrong. If they say "The moon and every other other planet is round the earth is too" that is valid. Why would earth be the only flat planet? Why would the government lie about something as stupid as this? If I say "This cake is pink that means every other cake is too" I'd be wrong. If I said If this shoe is made to put on feet so that means every other shoe is meant to go on feet too" I'd be correct.
The logic is completely different. If you think that it's that same you might as well say "Since you can eat a banana and be fine you can eat a rock and be fine"! I don't think you even know you're losing to a middle schooler.
