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brontoraptor (28599)

The left has completely abandoned the LGBT community

The Left Has Completely Abandoned The Gay Community

For what seems like forever, Democrats have claimed to be the party of the LGBT community. This has always perplexed me, as they vehemently defend a religion which condones the execution of gays. If that’s not enough, they want to bring more of these extreme ideologues into the country, which– one could argue– puts gay lives at risk....

http://www.chicksontheright.com/the-left-has-completely-abandoned-the-gay-community-fyi/

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Them lesbos be more angry with 'toxic masculinity' than the stoning of their kind.

6 years ago Side: Yep

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Grenache (6053)

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Let's assume for the sake of argument that you're right. That LGBT doesn't belong in the Left anymore. OK. So then either:

1) LGBT then needs to align with the right, or Republicans... Are they welcome in your party? Are you ready for them to be a vocal advocacy group within your party? Or

2) LGBT then needs their own political representation. Are you ready to battle for office against an LGBT party?

You may have answers for 1 and 2, but I doubt the rest of us are going to find them credible. And as long as they're aligned with the left or Democrats then you can marginalize and oppose their agendas instead of having to debate and then suppress them within your own party. So, why would you even want to pitch this debate heading that the left has abandoned the LGBT? Doesn't it cause YOU more problems then simply letting them be happy aligned with the left?

6 years ago Side: Yep

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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Without the power of the Democrat Party, the LGBTQRSTUVWYZABCDEF would no longer consume everyone's time and money with their constant laws suits forcing their agendas down everyone's throat.

I would love them to try going it alone so we could watch them garner their three percent of the vote each election.

It will never happen.

6 years ago Side: Nope

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Grenache (6053) Disputed

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So basically you're saying they don't stand a chance unless they side with one of the two dominant parties, and you don't want them in YOUR party. So it makes sense they be Democrat. Nice plan there genius.

6 years ago Side: Yep

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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If you can read and understand the written word.... yes I'm saying they would stand zero chance. The Democrat Party uses them for money and their vote.

Maybe you lack the intellect to understand third Party ramifications on elections. When a third Party comes along that actually garners a small percentage of votes, the main Parties always scream how voting for the third Party will cost the Democrat or Republican Party the election.

This is actually true depending on which Party is more in line with the Third Party's policies.

I would love to see a Gay Party. It would make it even easier to beat this extremist Democrat Party. But the fact that the Democrat Party could not beat Trump, means they are losing any credibility by most thiinking Americans.

Republicans want no part of special interest activists in their Party. The GOP is the Party of all Americans. They don't cater to certain groups at the expense of all other American right's.

The Democrat Party keeps thinking that forcing States to cater to these LGBT groups, is a winning strategy. ROFLOL, keep it up!

Keep forcing public schools to allow boys in our daughter's bathrooms.

Keep hanging paintings of Trump's severed head on our public college walls.

Keep going after our guns.

Keep being soft on crime and Terrorists.

Keep treating the middle class working man like saps, forcing them to pay more for healthcare then they could ever afford.

Keeping spending all your time resdistributing the money from hard working Americans and giving it to lazy irresponsible people.

Your hideous special interest strategy is finally costing you elections and the Democrat Party learned absolutely nothing from the elction. They are getting even more extreme.

6 years ago Side: Nope

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Grenache (6053) Disputed

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You always talk to me like I personally represent the Democratic Party, Progressivism, and all things Liberal. I am an indepedent moderate and have demonstrated that repeatedly on this site. Every time you blindly paint people and the issues you discuss as black and white you fail to persuade anyone not already in your camp to budge an inch.

And then you lecture me about third parties and dividing and conquering. That is precisely why you won't succeed. You are overt in your hatred of LGBT and openly bait them to go on their own so you can destroy them. Which is why they won't.

By the way, how much does the GOP pay you to come on these sites and trumpet them? You're like a rabid sports fan who is decked out head to toe in logoed gear and literally can't talk about anything else but their team.

6 years ago Side: Yep

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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Moderate? ROFLOL, like the Democrat Party you keep doubling down on your deceptions.

Keep spewing lies of how Conservatives hate Gays. FOOL!

You are overt in your hatred for Conservatives and dividing and conquering. That is precisely why your Democrat party is dieing.

By the way, how much does the Democrat Party pay you to come on these sites and pretend you are a moderate?

You are like the sweet talking Obama sayng one thing, pretending he is not an extreme Liberal, and doing all in his power to do the exact opposite.

6 years ago Side: Nope

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Grenache (6053) Disputed

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Ha ha ha h ha. Listen to you. You just finished telling us you don't want LGBT's in your party and want to crush them, and now you tell me I'm lieing that conservatives hate gays. You're clinically insane, aren't you?

And show me one quote from me anywhere on this site at any time where I encouraged people to joing the Democratic Party. Just one. You just finished telling us the Republican Party is everybody's party. Where did I say anything like that about the Democratic Party?

6 years ago Side: Yep

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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As always, you deceive and exactly why I ban you.

I NEVER said I don't wnt Gay people in the republican Party. I said we don't want special interest activist LGBT groups forcing their agendas on others.

There are many non activist Gays in the Republican Party, and I have respect for all Gay people not trying to take Americans to court if we don't agree with them.

IGNORE!

6 years ago Side: Nope

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mrcatsam (663) Disputed

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Using people sounds like a Republican party specialty. What about the new health care bill?. Oh yes, I'm gonna turn this into a political discussion just for you because ranting incoherently is your specialty.

6 years ago Side: Yep

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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What about the new health care bill? The GOP is trying to fix a hideous Democrat sponsered Obamacare after the fools gave free healthcare to millions of people even though it was never sustainable. Do you understand how hard it is to take away a free subsidy after fool politicians gave it to people?

Now these same fools are screaming that the GOP must keep these 22 millions of people added to medicaid roles covered even though it is not sustainable to give all those coverages (birth control, vision, abortion, mental, the kitchen sink, etc. etc.).

Establishment Republicans are close to being the same as moderate Democrats and they are refusing to do what must be done to lower costs and keep the healthcare bill sustainable.

WE NEED MORE CONSERVATIVES IN CONGRESS!

6 years ago Side: Nope

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mrcatsam (663) Disputed

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Ok. This is my biggest pet peeve. When Republicans who say trump won because the democrats are losing credibility I'd a ridiculous argument. First, he won by taking the electoral college. Hillary won the popular vote. Also don't think that there will be ANY Republicans in office for the next couple terms.

6 years ago Side: Nope

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Cartman (18192)

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If that’s not enough, they want to bring more of these extreme ideologues into the country, which– one could argue– puts gay lives at risk.

Why don't Republicans actually make the arguments that they claim one could argue? That's why Democrats are seen as the party of the LGBT.

6 years ago Side: Nope

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brontoraptor (28599) Disputed

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Why don't Republicans actually make the arguments that they claim one could argue

This isn't grammatical or coherant. Try asking it in English.

6 years ago Side: Yep

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Cartman (18192) Disputed

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Oooooooh. You can't read. So much has been revealed. Thanks for clarifying.

6 years ago Side: Nope

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brontoraptor (28599) Disputed

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That's why Democrats are seen as the party of the LGBT.

This is beginning to change now that Islam is becoming an issue. The list of prominent gay conservatives is rather vast now.

6 years ago Side: Yep

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Cartman (18192) Disputed

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It isn't because you are still only anti Islam. You don't make the arguments that you are being pro gay.

6 years ago Side: Nope

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brontoraptor (28599) Disputed

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Your grammer is horrible, but I'll guess and assume what you mean.

I am anti Islam. It's true.

I have no opinion on homosexuality. I simply don't care. Jesus never mentioned it in the Bible. Of course you know nothing about the Bible, so you'll just have to take my word for it or learn something today.

6 years ago Side: Yep

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Cartman (18192) Disputed

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Why do you think being told you aren't making arguments is bad grammar? You should be used to it by now.

I simply don't care.

Why would anyone think you are pro something you don't care about?

Jesus never mentioned it in the Bible.

You belong to a political party that doesn't agree with that.

6 years ago Side: Nope

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brontoraptor (28599) Disputed

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1)Hey you finally created a sentence that makes sense. I got through to you.

2)I'm not pro or anti gay. I couldn't care less. Are you anti Christian or neutral...

3)Not actually. The old guard died off. Trump gave a pro gay dialogue at his inauguration and got a standing ovation. Milo is a popular conservative speaker and is a flamer. Dave Rubin of the Rubin Report? Gay conservative. Peter Thiel spoke at Trump's inauguration and said "I am proud to be gay. I am proud to be a Republican". He was met with applause. You can watch all of it on youtube, but you won't because you aren't interested in educating yourself. We are the only ones interested in protecting gays from jihadists. The left decided to do the call of the Azan before events. That's as anti gay as it gets.

6 years ago Side: Yep

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Cartman (18192) Disputed

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1) all of my sentence make sense. You fondly being able to read means I got through to you.

2) I am anti idiots. So, I only appear to be anti Christian. You saying that you aren't pro gay is NOT an argument against me saying you aren't pro gay.

3) I am not going to read your assessment of Republicans since you are too fucking stupid to recognize that saying you aren't pro gay is not an argument against me saying you aren't pro gay.

6 years ago Side: Nope

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FromWithin (8241) Disputed

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What you can't ever grsp is that Republicans are not fixated on special interest groups. We are not going to push Gay agendas and we are not anti Gay.

Many of us are anti Gay marriage which fools equate to beng anti Gay.

Many of us are against activist Gay groups suing Churches to force them to allow Gay Sunday school teachers, or forcing private Christian businesses to cater gay wedding receptions, etc. etc., which fools equate to being anti Gay.

There is no debating that type of deceptive stupidity.

6 years ago Side: Yep

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One could argue the same about Christianity. Same crime (homosexuality), same punishment (stoning). I don't see the difference here.

6 years ago Side: Nope

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