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 The naked body: shameful or natural? (45)

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The naked body: shameful or natural?

What are your thoughts on public nudity, naturism, et cetera?

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I was raised by a Swedish mother. What does this mean? This means that I was raised to avoid clothing At All Times. I love being naked, anywhere, anytime. It's not something I'm embarrassed of (although I have deathly low self-esteem, helloooo BPD) or that seems sexual to me, which leads to a lot of misunderstandings amongst my fellow adolescents. Just yesterday, I was scolded by a woman on my private beach for going topless.

I simply don't understand what's wrong with it or why I need to cover up.

Side: Nudity ftw
3 points

There's obviously nothing wrong or shameful with the naked body, but you have to understand when you live in a sexually repressed Puritanical society you are going to rub people the wrong way (pun intended) if you have a mature sexual attitude.

Side: Nudity ftw

Which is exactly the problem I'd like to correct by showing that nudity isn't something to be repressed. Sigh.

Side: Nudity ftw
1 point

It's just a culture clash. Americans are typically raised to think nudity is only for showers and closed doors. Some react to it like that woman and others react to it by staring in amazement! ;)

Side: Nudity ftw

The naked body is shamelessly natural. Having said that, I looked at your link and that's the reason why people need to cover up. Did you see all those ugly people? They're not movie stars! ;)

Side: Nudity ftw
3 points

There's nothing shameful about the naked body.

However, just because something is natural, doesn't mean its OK to flash in front of other people.

Taking a dump is natural, but I don't think anyone would be OK with people crapping in the street.

Also note that people usually uncover the parts of their body that are needed to communicate or to perform a task. Which is why we show our faces and our hands.

When you take a dump you uncover you bum. When you swim you uncover a lot more cause it makes swimming more efficient.

It's only when you make love that the whole naked body is offered to someone else. That is the beauty of it. That's what makes full nudity so special. It's that sense of vulnerability and full exposure to a person you have feelings for.

Why flaunt this to all and everybody? Why give away all of your sexual bodily mystery for the sake of feeling "natural" and "changing attitudes"?

I just find it juvenile. Why is "changing other people's attitudes" so important anyway? Maybe they like their attitude.

And if it is that important to you to be naked outdoors then by all means, there are places where you can do that.

Side: depends if its private or public
1 point

Clearly, nudity and taking a dump are not the same thing.

You suggest that we should only uncover what is necessary. Then nothing really needs to be uncovered. Perhaps we shouldn't permit short skirts or pants, or peep-toe shoes, or short-sleeved shirts, or V-necks....

I wish to separate nudity from sexuality. That's all I have to say on that subject.

If you think that it's pointless to try to create change... well... I mean, firstly, why are you on this website? And secondly, what's your purpose in life?

Side: Nudity ftw
1 point

Argento(504) i think you are completely correct. The human body is a natural thing as well as the things it does. And love is a powerful thing and nudity should be the special thing for the one you love, i agree completely with you :)

Side: Nudity ftw
2 points

There's nothing inherently wrong with nudity. But, I do think that people have to right to not be forced to see naked people everywhere they go...because whether or not it should be associated with sexuality, it IS in most of our current society, and if it's going to freak someone out, they shouldn't HAVE to see it. So no, of course there's nothing wrong with being naked, but I personally would prefer if people have their nudist colonies rather than walking in front of me. X_X But that's my own issues due to the society in which I was raised, and I'm aware of that. But I also know that people can't just automatically "desexualize" nudity in their minds, so I don't think unrestricted, completely public nudity would be a good thing at this point in our society.

Side: Nudity ftw
2 points

I don't have too much of a problem with nudity. I just have some guidelines to it. First off, I don't think it should just be anywhere, especially in a place where a child might see you. When I was a kid I would have been mortified if I saw a naked person. Secondly, especially in America, I would really REALLY prefer if gross looking fat people kept their clothes on. No offense to them, but I really don't feel like seeing a guy mow his lawn with fat rolls and a huge beer belly. Similar to this, excessive hair is also kind of gross. If I ever become a wolf/man hybrid type person, I'll most likely keep my shirt on at almost all times.

And I want to send a message to old men that when you're in a locker room, it doesn't mean "Let's all get naked! w00t!" Please, for the love of God, put a towel on! >.<

Side: Nudity ftw
2 points

I get where you're coming from, but, in my opinion, that is exactly the issue that needs to be addressed. Children shouldn't be ashamed of nudity; it's a perfectly natural thing. I mean, toddlers run around ecstatic and naked until someone tells them that it's not right. Why?

And by allowing people to see us fully, we become more aware of our bodies, hence more likely to take care of them (and not be fat). Either way, collective nudity discourages those judgments and encourages accepting all ages, body types, levels of hairiness....

Side: Nudity ftw
1 point

Ewwww hair is disgusting. >.< I get the chills when I think of it. And I don't mean to offend hairy people. Some people like hairy people. I'm not one of them.....

Side: Nudity ftw
1 point

LMAO!

Please, for the love of God, put a towel on! >.<

Dude, that's the most true thing you've ever said!

I swear I never gave a rat's ass about who was naked where or when until I started going to gyms after high school.

lol, these old guys are so grotesque!

It's not even about the nakedness, it's simply disturbing and they don't give a damn! Like they want us to not be able to eat for a week!

Side: depends

I see nothing shameful about the human body although I think it's a shame how some people keep their bodies so out of shape. It's great when you see a naked person that is in the best of shape and I think everyone can appreciate that unless they're jealous that the person has a much nicer body than their own. Public nudity can be an abberation to some and I must say I include myself in that assessment. I truly don't wish to be walking down Fifth Avenue and see two naked people walking arm in arm, no matter how great their bodies might be. On the beach it's a different story and a place where you can always expect some degree of nudity. Nudity has its time and place as most things do.

Side: natural
2 points

As long as you aren't offending anyone, and as long as it isn't overtly sexual, then go for it. However, in the US, most people ARE offended by nudity and it's illegal, and I can think of legislation that's more urgent than changing nudity laws. But more power to folk comfy in their own skin!

Side: depends if its private or public
1 point

Speaking solely from my experience as an American, I can safely say that our mainstream society has put a taboo upon one of the most natural things on Earth. The female breasts were (and still are) designed to nurture babies. Male and female reproductive organs were simply created for the purpose of "reproduction". Why such a stigma surrounds nudity is beyond me. Nobody talks about it, yet men want to have a bigger penis and women want "perfect" breasts. I honestly enjoy being naked for the sole purpose of being naked. It's freeing and natural. My friends understand me, though they don't take the same liberties as I do.

Side: Nudity ftw
1 point

If we all became nudists or something, nudity wouldn't be as awesome as it is right now. I think we're at the perfect moment, where there's still some mystery, but it's still something looked at in a sexual manner (if you're into it: FOTC!!!)

Plus, right now, nudity can also be funny (see Bruno).

If everyone just becomes naked... it won't be that sexual or that funny anymore. Same thing if we no longer use censors on television. The word fuck will lose all of its power.

Side: Maintain the Power
1 point

My wish is that nudity and sexuality are to be separated.

Side: Nudity ftw
ThePyg(6737) Disputed
2 points

But like I said, it then loses it power and will just be another boring custom. Just like tying your shoes or walking.

If you want nudity to be special, leave it how it is.

Side: Maintain the Power
1 point

See MK's arguement too because he's right.

1. Naked is always natural.

2. But sometimes it's also shameful

and this has 0 to do with anything Puritan, there's a health issue here

So here are the naked rules:

1. No fat people. Fat is unnatural so keep your fat ass covered or quit eating like a pig.

2. Old people... especially men. You disgust everyone. Yes, even in the locker room. I don't care how straight I am, if your balls are swinging 3ft, and your cock looks like an inverted pen cap and you have old people spots bigger than my head on your ass, I'm going to notice, and I will vomit in my mouth.

3. Sasquash, you know who you are. Man has been walking the earth for hundreds of thousands of years, we've built homes, air conditioning, heaters, showers, and every kind of hair removing aparatus imaginable. There is no survival reason for you to maintain your rastafarian body dreads, they smell within a 10ft radius like burning sulfur and brimstone, they have god knows what clinging to them, you are not a cudly bear, you are a Middle Earth Troll and you need to either cover yourself or get some trimmers.

Side: depends
3 points

You disgust everyone.

Not me. Nudity discourages those kinds of judgments; judging someone because they're old, or built differently, or... hairy. It helps people accept everyone's different bodies.

Side: depends
2 points

Or makes everyone hyper-self-conscious because whereas they could have used clothes to cover up the parts of themselves they don't like, it's now on view to the whole world.

For example: my brother believes that he has big ears. In order to cover this fact up, he wears his hair long enough so people can't see his ears. Obviously nudity wouldn't effect his particular decision, but if what your embarrassing characteristic was somewhere else (chest, stomach, arms, legs etc...) there would be no way to avoid everyone from seeing it.

Think about girls who are bulimic already. What if they had to show off there bodies all the time? I doubt that this would help them, and would probably exacerbate the problem.

Side: depends
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

I disagree,

I think there is a difference between judging a person, and being disgusted by the way their body looks.

Some of my best friend are ugly ;)

Side: depends
1 point

I don't have any problem with a person viewing a person of the opposite sex naked

until it becomes an infrigment on ones right to privacy.

Women reporters in football locker rooms are clearly an act or sexual harrassment

as they are mostly unwelcome, yet our phony judicial system allows it anyway.

Side: Nudity ftw
Scarecrow13(41) Clarified
1 point

I think there is a good point. There is an aspect of consent involved. If there is a voyeur watching people, they are wrong.

Side: Nudity ftw
1 point

I think it is natural because in the old days like in caveman times people wouldn't wear clothes. We are given verginas, boobs, butts, and penises for a reason. It is ok to show them. Maybe it is not ok to do it for an insulting reason or to be do in front of children, but they are going to see it sooner or later and it is up to the parent to choose.

Side: natural

Ya I am all for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Hot and Sexy
1 point

We all have either a penis or vergina. Why do you have to cover them up. We will all see someone naked sooner or later.

Side: natural
1 point

Nudism in public should be okay as long as it doesn't become sexual or if it is in an area that nudism would pose as a health issue.

Supporting Evidence: Example (www.purenudism.com)
Side: natural
1 point

It is natural, we are all born that way. Why should we be ashamed of our bodies?

Side: natural
1 point

The human body is completely natural. It is a shame we fear nudity so much when there is nothing wrong with it. Yet we are fine with letting kids watch violence on TV which is much more damaging.

Side: natural
0 points

I'm a religious person, and I like to look at the Bible when issues such as these arise (that's just me though). Technically speaking, nudity is not a sin or is not sinful. I do not think though that God looks favorably upon nudist colonies or other nudist activities because he clothed Adam and Eve when they came out of the garden. If God was favorable toward it, I don't think he would have done that. Again, private nudity is okay but when it comes to public nudity, it is not okay. I think that is why you see so many people taking offense to it in the US, with a majority of people being religious and all.

Side: depends if its private or public
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

Ah Jeez,

In the Bible, Adam and Eve were naked, and were not made to wear clothes until they felt shame. The most common english translations are incorrect and would lead one to believe it was the nakedness that was bad, it was not.

There are quite a few interpretations of what this parable meant, most likely what it meant by "eating" the forbidden fruit, was non-baby making sex. They were doing it, perhaps during Eve's period? When pregnancy would have been unlikely? Maybe some oral, you know "eating"? Not sure they were that clever though. Unfortunately it's been translated so many times no one really knows, and the originals are lost to time.

At any rate, the idea behind the clothing in the Puritan sense, was that Adam was not able to control his hormones, and would be compelled, through no fault of his own, to mount his woman at every oportunity.

Which is why hardcore Old Testament religions like their women hidden under a mountain of clothes, barefoot, and pregnant at all times.

So it's basically based on sexism. Another in a long line of reasons why the Bible is a ridiculous source for a moral code.

Private nudity would most certainly not be okay according to this parable, even in a marriage, unless it was for the express purpose of baby making sex.

There's nothing in that parable that would lead one to believe it's even okay for a husband and wife to be naked together. That's just the Bible people picking and choosing what they like, or the furthest they think people will accept. Typical.

If one feels no shame in being naked, then there's nothing wrong with it. If someone doesn't like it, don't look, if some guy feels an uncontrollable urge to rape, buy a hooker.

"You mean jack-off right? haha, I mean buying a hooker is sinful... well so is jacking off, but hookers are worse!"

Wrong again Bible dude. "It is better to pour your seed on the belly of a prostitute, than to let when drop touch the earth."

Which means hookers > masterbation in god's eyes...

lmao,

but try to get the flock to accept that obvious interpretation,

pick and choose, pick and choose.

Side: depends
Azlyn(1) Clarified
1 point

To asdf789(346) In the bible Adam and Eve were in fact nude, the only time they tried to cover themselves was in fact when they ate the apple, and only then did they know shame for their body. Althouth I don't think of myself as someone who would want to walk around showing my body off to everyone, its true it is natural but it is supposed to be special to the one you love. There are alot of natural things in the human body, and humans do the most to hide it or change it, and that will never change for the simple fact that everyone has their own opinnions and we see everything our own way. Its just how we are...

Side: depends