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The teachings of Buddha and Jesus (and Proverbs) are very similar.

Buddha- “Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.”
Jesus- "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble."

Buddha- “Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without.”
Jesus- "nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

Buddha- “We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.”
Jesus (Proverbs)- “For as he thinks in his heart, so is he.”

Buddha- “However many holy words you read, however many you speak, what good will they do you if you do not act on upon them?”
Jesus-  "Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead."

Buddha- “Hatred does not cease through hatred at any time. Hatred ceases through love. This is an unalterable law.”
Jesus (Proverbs)- "Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all sins."

Buddha- “Have compassion for all beings, rich and poor alike; each has their suffering. Some suffer too much, others too little.”
Jesus- "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you"

Buddha: "If anyone should give you a blow with his hand, with a stick, or with a knife, you should abandon any desires and utter no evil words."
Jesus: "If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also."

Buddha- “Do not overrate what you have received, nor envy others. He who envies others does not obtain peace of mind.”
Jesus (Proverbs)- "A sound heart is life to the body, But envy is rottenness to the bones."

Buddha- “Whatever words we utter should be chosen with care for people will hear them and be influenced by them for good or ill.”
Jesus (Proverbs)- "A soft answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger. The tongue of the wise uses knowledge rightly, But the mouth of fools pours forth foolishness."

Buddha- "The faults of others are easier to see than one’s own"
Jesus- "Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye?"

Buddha- "The great cloud rains down on all whether their nature is superior or inferior."
Jesus- "Your father in heaven makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous."

Buddha- "Consider others as yourself."
Jesus- "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

 

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Because most of these "groundbreaking morals" are fucking obvious. "Hey don't kill" well ya don't fucking say? People claim the bible is some great moral book but its literally just obvious shit ingrained in any human who's not a completely corrupt backwards asshole. Basically it all sums up to "try not to be a dick". No shit

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GuitarGuy(6095) Clarified
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Are the "groundbreaking morals" you are referring to, the ones that I listed? Because "hey don't kill," wasn't one of them.

It is the more philosophical teachings that inspire people. "Try not to be a dick" is the obvious message, but people rarely take that advice to its fullest extent... You know what I mean, Mr. "well ya don't fucking say," right? You obviously don't live your life according to all of these moral teachings. I don't mean in the religious sense, where you worship Jesus or whomever, but something so "obvious" and "ingrained" in our human nature should be recognized by most people, however, that is not the case. Especially in a time where corruption, greed, envy, vanity, egotism... Basically, a good portion of the things that Buddha and Jesus taught to avoid, reigns supreme.

I think that anyone who considers there to be little complexity and value in the moral teachings of Jesus and Buddha, and that what they had to say barely extends upon the obvious, "try not to be a dick"... Is probably a dick.

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I think that the kingdom of Heaven (also called the kingdom of God) may be similar to the Buddhist concept of Nirvana.

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lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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Jesus and His salvation is the kingdom of heaven.

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GuitarGuy(6095) Disputed
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Just stating what you believe doesn't really refute my point.

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They should be similar...., Buddha stole them ;)

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GuitarGuy(6095) Clarified
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Before Jesus even said them? Damn... He's good.

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Stranger things have happened in the bible ;)

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The Buddha lived 600 years before Jesus so if anyone stole them Jesus did.

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Stranger things have happened in the bible ;)

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I remember reading an article or two back in my Buddhist days where some scholars theorized that Jesus may have met and even studied under 1 or more Buddhist monks during his lost years. I think someone even wrote a fictional novel about it, but I may be wrong.

As far as I remember, the whole proposal was pure speculation, no real evidence. It is an intriguing thought though.

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Yeah I watched a documentary about that and it sounded like a cool idea but a bit far fetched if you ask me. However it is possible that Jesus was influenced by Buddhist ideas as they were known in the middle east around the time due to missions sent from India like King Ashoka.

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Yeah. Buddhists were in Judea and Jews were in India, and a lot of learning can happen in 30 years.

It could even be that he was a Boddhisatva, but due to his resemblance to OT prophecy, his "autobiography" in the NT was edited to ignore that. Still just speculation, but it is a perspective that could make a lot of sense regarding his teachings and legend.

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It's possible, I suppose. Christian Gnosticism is a lot like Buddhism, and a lot of the Gnostic Gospels that we have record of date back earlier than much of the books included in New Testament. Some of the gospels even date back to within ten to twenty years after Jesus' death. So, it does seem that Buddhism made its way into the area at that time.

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It generally agreed by scholars that Buddhism was known in Judea during the time of Jesus. Buddhists almost certainly traveled there and there may have even been expat communities. Likewise it is known that Jews were in various parts of India during that time.

The exact amount of interaction Jesus himself had with Buddhists is difficult, probably impossible, to identify. But it seems quite likely to me that he had at least heard of the religion, and I consider it viable that he may have actively studied it for some time, possibly even in India.

Certainly not something I would claim as fact or even belief, but within the realm of possibility I think. And it would explain a few things.

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