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Democracy was kicked in the te Violence should be allowed.
Debate Score:22
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 Democracy was kicked in the te (9)
 
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The violent anti-democratic blacks have vindicated Trump's racial position.

Was the disgraceful stifling of free speech by blacks and others that denied Donald Trump his right to promote his Presidential candidacy in Chicago the start of ''mob rule'' in the United States of America? American's are quick to condemn repressive regimes in such countries as China and North Korea, yet seem to oblivious to the violent intimidation of those involved in the democratic political process by blacks and other anarchist groups. No matter how much you may disagree with someone's view point you should be prepared to defend threr right to make their statement without fear of violent protests. 

Democracy was kicked in the te

Side Score: 15
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Violence should be allowed.

Side Score: 7
4 points

Unless it's time for self defense or for revolution I never take the side of violence.

But I'll also point out both the rhetoric of Trump and the physical actions of his event staff have created an atmosphere leading to desperate disapproval by multiple large segments of the public. Who is truly surprised he would have violent protesters?

Side: Democracy was kicked in the te
1 point

First off, these predetermined viewpoints are ridiculous and greatly constrict an otherwise broad situation.

What's with creating more than one of the same debate?

Trump has made it a matter of course to restrict access to his rallies to anybody who disagrees with or does not support him. Prior to entry, or so I have read, people are asked whether or not they support Donald J. Trump for President: if they do not answer with a firm affirmative, they are not allowed in. When would-be protesters do get in, they are escorted out as soon as they begin to make known their intentions of protesting.

I think the question here is: Does Donald Trump support free speech? What happened to the rights of the people to be heard?

Furthermore, from the NPR article I read on the issue, Trump chose to postpone the rally; his rights were not violated, for he could have gone along with the scheduled event, and he very well may at a later date.

Side: Democracy was kicked in the te
0 points

It is perfectly acceptable to tinge a thread with one's own viewpoint. However, if you feel that such an action is ''ridiculous'' then why in hell did you respond to the issue, you shithead? Are you some sort of masochistic idiot? It's filth like you who ruin debating forums such as this. You'd be much better off cleaning your home or washing your stinking under garments. If you feel that the thread should have been rephrased then why don't you issue your own question under separate cover and permit others to post their arguments in their own manner. Do resentful scumbags like you scour the debating sites looking for other people's contributions to criticise? Donald Trump has every right to promote his political views without being advised by the police that by proceeding would cause even greater violence by the black rioting rabble than that which was already taking place before he even arrived at the venue. Trump didn't chose to cancel the rally, he accepted the police's advice and made a responsible decision to call it off. What makes you think that a rescheduled rally by Donald Trump not attract the same black rioters as this one? Are you totally divorced from reality? It's small minded dirtballs like you who foster the politics of violence and intimidation as well as accelerating the demise of the ballot box as a means of expressing one's political views. Pitiful lowlives like you and your type will never be able to recognize the importance of retaining the principles of a true and peaceful democratic political system in which everyone has freedom of expression. With shitheads like you around it's not so much, ''God Bless America'', as ''God Help America''.

Side: Violence should be allowed.
Pantagruel(984) Disputed
2 points

Wow have you ever lost your marbles.

When the only options are "Democracy was kicked in the te" or "Violence should be allowed" you aren't really leaving much room for people. Few people will say that violence is acceptable, but then you give the only other option as being your viewpoint. That is manipulation.

Are you some sort of masochistic idiot?

That's debatable.

Why not make a debate and let the people decide? ;)

It's filth like you who ruin debating forums such as this.

Now you're talking about yourself. It is the people who intentionally manipulate the dialogue (or ban people, but that's FromWithin's fancy) to their own whims and convictions that ruin debating forums by systematically disqualifying everybody else.

You'd be much better off cleaning your home or washing your stinking under garments

Can't deny this one.

If you feel that the thread should have been rephrased then why don't you issue your own question under separate cover and permit others to post their arguments in their own manner.

I was going to, but then I saw that you made two of the same debate and didn't want to bog down the home page.

Do resentful scumbags like you scour the debating sites looking for other people's contributions to criticise?

Actually, I scour debating sites looking for a rational dialogue in which I might engage. However, I have yet to find one.

Donald Trump has every right to promote his political views

I agree. As pugnacious and procacious as they are.

by the police that by proceeding would cause even greater violence by the black rioting rabble

This is a riot.

What happened here was a protest.

What makes you think that a rescheduled rally by Donald Trump not attract the same black rioters as this one?

If this had been a riot, I would say you may be on to something.

But, seeing how this was merely a protest, I'll state that it seems more likely to me that a similar protest will arise the next time he throws a discriminatory and press-sequestered rally.

Are you totally divorced from reality?

This is another one of those debatable and subjective issues.

Why not start a debate and let the people decide?

It's small minded dirtballs like you who foster the politics of violence and intimidation

I am an avowed pacifist. Never in my life have I advocated the use of, or myself used, violence, even when violence was done to (always, incidentally, by right-wingers). I support logical discourse and an examination of all relevant facts and historical precedents. Unfortunately, too few people are willing to do that.

as well as accelerating the demise of the ballot box as a means of expressing one's political views.

I don't believe representative democracy (especially one in which lobbyists' bribes hold more sway than nationally-held convictions) has much to do with the ballot box. Maybe were this a direct democracy I'd feel differently, but as is I simply cannot agree. More states need to hold more frequent referenda, then perhaps my views on democracy in the US would change.

Pitiful lowlives like you and your type will never be able to recognize the importance of retaining the principles of a true and peaceful democratic political system in which everyone has freedom of expression.

Do you even know anything about me? One of my strongest beliefs is in freedom of expression. My problem is with a government that prefers its own interests over those of the people (in this country or any other).

With shitheads like you around it's not so much, ''God Bless America'', as ''God Help America''.

More like get God out of America.

Side: Democracy was kicked in the te
1 point

Okay. If YOU will defend the RIgHT for the over 60% of Americans to speak about the NEED for professional abortion, (as opposed to the "coat hanger type") and those over 60% who want stricter gun background checks, I'll go along with the rights YOU want to protect.

Side: Democracy was kicked in the te

Most certainly, everyone has the right to express their opinion on every issue. Those who resort to violence to silence their opponents, or, like terrorists, to achieve their political aims, do so because of the weakness of their arguments. Such violent behaviour has no place in a society which enjoys the freedom of the democratic voting system.

Side: Democracy was kicked in the te
1 point

Agreed! ( I refuse to tell a dumb joke here, so I will use dumb punctuation, as needed...........................)

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FromWithin(8241) Disputed
1 point

What a lieing fool. NO ONE IS PREVENTING LIFE OF MOTHER ABORTIONS FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME. And hear you are STILL talking about back alley abortions. It only shows your pure lack of excuses to condone "no limit" abortions that Democrats support.

Get a life and try allowing others to live their's.

We used to have priorites for victims in this nation until feminists and the Left wing extremists came along and fought for the right's of women to take innocent lives.

Side: Violence should be allowed.
AlofRI(3294) Disputed
1 point

I have NEVER heard of Evangelist condoning "limited abortions". THEY will do exactly what you say liberals will do (and WONT!) ... in the opposite direction! Give them an inch, they'll take a mile! There are a LOT more radical Evangelists than radical liberals. I don't like radicals of ANY denomination, so, stop being so radical.

You lieing fool! Get a life and try allowing others to live theirs!

(I) am not trying to stop others from living their lives, if THEY want their wives to die because they NEEDED an abortion, or if THEY insist on their daughter carrying the baby of a scumbag rapist ... be my guest! WHY WONT YOU allow us "victims, feminists and left wing extremists" live OURS! YOU can do whatever you want, I've seen none of those you mentioned try to stop YOU, It's YOU trying to stop THEM (us)!

Side: Democracy was kicked in the te

Violence should never be seen as an option. Period. It really doesn't matter how pissed off Trump makes people; resorting to violence is not the answer.

Side: Democracy was kicked in the te

Don't equate those demonstrations with both Parties. It's the Democrat party that tries to censor any free speech that does not agree with their political correctness.

These were organized protests by the Left.

Side: Democracy was kicked in the te
AlofRI(3294) Disputed
1 point

We the Democrats, (most of us) feel that , if Trump wins, most Americans will be too intelligent to vote for him ... on either party! The conservatives know this (most of them), that is WHY the super packs of the other conservative candidates are trying to disgrace him! The Koch's, Breightbart, etc. I heard, were ALL organizing these phony "liberal radicals" as a way to hit HIM and Bernie at the same time!. (Sort of like the phony pimp and pro they organized against ACORN.) AND, let's not forget the phony pictures and tapes of the phony attacks on planned Parenthood! The phony , over and over investigations of Benghazi! Typical RW tactics! They never change!

Side: Violence should be allowed.
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