There Is No Difference Between Religion And Mental Illness
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LOL, talk about a Christianphobic anti Christian bigot! You are the hypocrite who denies the science of biology and cheer leads LGBT agendas. I guess there are no mental illnesses or disorders with people who think they are the wrong gender, or that two men are designed for each other. Side: Facts
You are the hypocrite who denies the science of biology and cheer leads LGBT agendas. Hello again, From: Truly, in this FREE nation of ours, you're FREE to BE whoever you want to be, EVEN if your parts don't fit.. Ain't this a great country, or what? What? I thought right wingers believed in freedom. No, huh? excon Side: Alternative Facts
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LOL, why are you on a debate site? Are you always deceptive, or are you the most stupid person alive? My remarks have nothing to do with the freedom of people to live any way they choose. My remarks are ALWAYS about a corrupt Government forcing these unnatural abnormal sexual orientations on to all of our States, and all of our public schools. IGNORE! Side: Facts
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A mental illness is a very narrowly defined term with a very SPECIFIC meaning. So let's explore that meaning. In order to classify something as a mental illness it needs to meet 3 main criteria: 1) Deviancy: Abnormal thoughts, feelings, or behaviors. 2) Distress: It must be distressing for the person and/or others. 3) Dysfunction: It reduces functioning at work and socially. So Depression is classified a mental illness because and I'm simplifying this a lot: 1) It comes with suicidal ideation and pessimism bias. 2) People that suffer from it have a high risk of suicide due to the distress. 3) Depressed people stop leaving the house and talking to people. When it comes to religion you can ask if it fits the criteria: 1) Religious beliefs, feelings, behaviors can be deviant but not always. 2) Holding a a religions belief doesn't necessarily cause distress to anyone, some people are quite happy being religions. 3) Religion doesn't cause reduction in social or work functioning. So we can say that religion doesn't fit the criteria to qualify as a mental illness. Side: Alternative Facts
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A mental illness is a very narrowly defined term with a very SPECIFIC meaning. So let's explore that meaning. The meaning you provide is inherently flawed as it assumes what is normal/socially acceptable is not mentally ill to begin with Deviancy: Abnormal thoughts, feelings, or behaviors. In some societies it's normal to eat human flesh. In most societies it's normal to be a superstitious retard. "Deviancy" has nothing to do with mental illness, it has to do with what society thinks is right which is usually wrong to begin with. Distress: It must be distressing for the person and/or others. What if someone adopts a retarded delusional belief system to AVOID distress? For example "I will live forever with Jesus Christ in heaven after I die". Dysfunction: It reduces functioning at work and socially. Once again this is stupid because it only pertains to what society expects from you, not what is rational or sane in itself. Side: Facts
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The meaning you provide is inherently flawed as it assumes what is normal/socially acceptable is not mentally ill to begin with The definition I was using is the American Psychiatric Association definition for mental illness. The DSM-V has a much cleaner and complete definition In some societies it's normal to eat human flesh. The use of deviancy in psychology pertains to and I quote DSM-IV: "neither deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) nor conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict is a symptom of a dysfunction in the individual". In other words, its a deviancy that pertains to a person's dysfunction. What if someone adopts a retarded delusional belief system to AVOID distress Does that delusional believe mark a change in behavior resulting in dysfunction? Bad coping skills and irrational believes don't necessarily imply a loss in functioning, or that they should arbitrary be considered mental disorders. Especially with the implication that everyone has bad copying skills and irrational believes. Once again this is stupid because it only pertains to what society expects from you, not what is rational or sane in itself. The definition is not rooted in expectation. If you start avoiding your friends and going to work because you are having constant hallucinations; that's the kind of dysfunction we are talking about. Every mental illness in the DSM reduces an individuals ability to function. This is especially true of people that have late (30+) onset of symptoms. --- As an atheist I have extremely negative view of religion. However, trying to argue that religion is a mental illness is a slippery slope making the term meaningless. It only devalues the argument to just an attack instead of a legitimate criticism of religion. Side: Alternative Facts
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