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 There are some people so lost in their ideology, it's truly a waste of time to debate them (24)

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There are some people so lost in their ideology, it's truly a waste of time to debate them

Remember when we were kids, and some kids would simply repeat everything you said until you finally smartened up and realized it was a waste of time to continue the conversation?

Often times, this is how it is on debate sites when debating people on the Left. No matter the truth in things you might say, many on the Left simply deny it. If a Conservative said that water was wet, Progressives would find some way to deny it. They live and breathe ridiculing Conservatives no matter how true the statement.

These insecure people are total wastes of time, and why the ban feature is so important. There is no changing their minds no matter what you say to them. I have better things to do than banter words with insecure people living in denial.

Now Liberals will of course say the exact same thing about those on the Right, but as you will notice they do not usually ban Conservatives. They will stalk a Conservative at every chance to make sure they can ridicule whatever he says. They are insecure people fixated on taking no blame or responsibility for their choices in life. Their's is the no fault mentality.

We ban the deniers, while they stalk us. Can you see the difference? Conservatives are not insecure people trying to excuse any irresponsible behavior. If I as a Conservative lived a promiscuous life, getting women pregnant, abandoning my children, forcing my children to live off tax payers, etc. I would not sit here trying to excuse it as ok and a normal part of life today.
I would not be saying I just made some mistakes, and oh well life happens. No, I would be saying it was pathetic what I did to my children and that society should be going after dead beat parents and SHAMING THEM FOR THEIR CHOICES!

You never hear these Progressives taking responsibility and speaking out on behalf of our children. WHY NOT? because they are the insecure people living those lifestyles. It could be them who abandons a child so therefore they will NOT FIND FAULT.
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Liberals are open to the arena of ideas until they realize there actually are other ideas. After the shock wears off they resort to name calling and ad hominem attacks and then pronounce themselves the winner of said argument.

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Actually, I think you just described young people, not liberals. It might seem that way because a lot of young people are liberals, but that applies to young conservatives too. Or maybe not young, just inexperienced in political thought.

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In my experience, liberals are notorious for name-calling and demonizing those they disagree with. Hillary just called half of Trump's supporters a "basket of deplorables". This is classic; liberals always engage in ad hominem attacks and name calling to marginalize the individual rather than discuss the issues.

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a man convinced against his will is indeed unconvinced still .....

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John 3:16-21 .. for God so loved the world .. that he gave his only begotten Son .. that whoever believes in him shall not perish .. but have eternal life ..

for God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world .. but that the world might be saved through him ..

he who believes in him is not judged .. he who does not believe has been judged already .. because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God ..

this is the judgment .. that the light has come into the world .. and men loved the darkness rather than the light .. for their deeds were evil ..

for everyone who does evil hates the Light .. and does not come to the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed ..

but he who practices the truth comes to the light .. so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God

ironskillet(220) Clarified
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Very inspirational.

One of my favorite verses-

Quran 57:4 .. "And he is with you wherever you are"

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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Muslims toss faggots off of the roofs of tall buildings to pass time, why don't you join the Muzzies since you like quoting the Crayon?

DBCooper(2194) Disputed
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What is Islam's position on the treatment of homosexuals?

Islam goes beyond merely disapproving of homosexuality. Sharia teaches that homosexuality is a vile form of fornication, punishable by death.

Is that very inspirational to you ?

DBCooper(2194) Disputed
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Abu Dawud (4448) - "If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death."

Homosexuals are beheaded, hanged and stoned in modern Saudi Arabia and Iran, where Muhammad's laws are applied most strictly. Five other Muslim countries also have the death penalty on their books for homosexual behavior. In the past, gays were burned.

Is that very inspirational to you ?

DBCooper(2194) Disputed
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In 2016, an educated imam in Tunisia explained that while it may seem harsh, there is not ambiguity about this in Islam:

God is very straightforward about this — not we Muslims, not subjective, the Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death. We don’t make any excuses about that, it’s not our law — it's the Quran

Is this very inspirational to you ?

DBCooper(2194) Disputed
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Mohammed’s first successor Abu Bakr reportedly had a homosexual burned at the stake. The fourth caliph, Mohammed’s son-in-law Ali, ordered a sodomite thrown from the minaret of a mosque. Others he ordered to be stoned. One of the earliest and most authoritative commentators on the Koran, Ibn ‘Abbas (died 687) blended both approaches into a two-step execution in which “the sodomite should be thrown from the highest building in the town and then stoned.

Is this very inspirational to you ?

That is a good verse speaking to this debate topic. Thanks for showing the wisdom of the scriptures and how we can see it playing out all around us.

This type of mentality is how and why only two parties have a monopoly in American politics.

In the main people, or should we call them sheeple, will engage in the tradition of tribal voting and support the party of their parents and grandparents.

There is little, if any consideration given to the manifesto of the party which receives the sheeple's vote.

In the run up to any election the political showmasters whip the sheeple up into a dutiful frenzy and in doing so turn American brother against brother American.

This is born out in the venomous exchanges between the supporters of the two main parties on his site.

Apart from an unknown number of 5th columnists, America's enemies lie beyond it's borders.

FromWithin(8241) Clarified
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If you are trying to equate the Republican party in the same light as Democrats, you truly have no clue.

Yes, both parties have been controlled by what you call the politcal showmasters, but their is one establishment party whose nomineee was not their choice. The establishment Republicans did all in their power to keep Trump from being their nominee.

Obviously the people spoke loud and clear. We have a candidate not tied to the parties and using his own money. The Republican party is now supporting him.

Democrats stopped Bernie and pushed Hillary of course.

Republicans believe in smaller Government and Democrats believe in a socialistic Big Brother Government.

There is no comparison when it comes to ideology.

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Democrats stopped Bernie and pushed Hillary of course.

Um, don't know which conspiracies you were reading, but Bernie did get fewer votes than Clinton.

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Actually, you can show with a little maths that a lot of voting systems end up with two or a few major contending parties. It's not necessarily the fault of the people in this one.

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lol ......... the basic liberal / atheistic / progressive agenda =

talk all day about the world's problems and then walk away making you feel it's all your fault

"Now Liberals will of course say the exact same thing about those on the Right, but as you will notice they do not usually ban Conservatives."

First off, I don't agree that people can get so lost in their ideology that they can'take change. I firmly believe that everyone can change with enough effort, that's why I'm so persistent in debating. I'm going to assume that you are posting this with outer recent debate in mind. I haven't banned you despite your insulting language because you have still remained somewhat respectful and have continued debated. I only ban people who come to debates with the intention of trolling.

By the way, why did you bring party politics into this? America isn't black and white conservative and liberal media I know many intelligent and reasonable conservatives and liberals, and I also know many people that are lost in their own ideology from the left and right.

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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There's a huge difference in Conservatives and Liberals.

Conservatives believe in smaller Government and more power to the people. More freedoms and liberties to the people without corrupt Government and judges forcing them to change their laws to fit political correctness.

Conservatives want the people to have control of our public schools that we pay for. We don't want some Big Brother Federal teachers Union forcing all to bow to their ideology and indoctrinating OUR children to think as Big Brother thinks.

I know NO intelligent Liberals because after decades of corruption in our Government, they actually are mndlessly stupid enough to think bigger Government is the answer and should take more control of our lives.

That defines an unbelievble stupid person and ideology.

Government is corrupt and tied to big money and power! WHAT FOOL WOULD WANT MORE OF THAT?

ironskillet(220) Disputed
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Name-calling. Now, I'm not going to argue whether or not it's correct to be conservative or liberal. I haven't decided on most of my positions, which is why I still haven't taken to either political party's side.

I would like to call you out for calling all liberals mindlessly stupid. Please refrain from generalizing a large group of people as a single insult.

If I had to choose between Conservative and Liberal, I would only go with liberal solely on the fact that they tend to have a better history with marriage equality. Even then, I'd rather not pick a side.