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You lose 2-1 .. the logician and the deist in me both take offence to you use of profanity .. the cynic feels defeated by admitting "well trolled sir" ..
Which atheists on this site are you talking about? Are you talking about KNHav and NowASaint who admit that they don't actually believe in God indirectly even though they claim to believe in religion, or are you talking about the people who honestly say there is no God? If you are talking about the people who directly say there is no God then you are way off. Ray Comfort didn't say anything new ever. If you have seen 1 comfort movie you have seen them all. He doesn't present evidence for God. He gets you to the point where you can start being presented evidence of God and he stops. It isn't cowardly to tell KNHav that Comfort isn't convincing at all. If, however, you are talking about the atheists KNHav and NowASaint then you are absolutely right that they are cowardly for avoiding all complaints about the movie and banning people.
I actually seek the truth. You avoid it like the plague. I have no interest in watching videos recommended by people who don't want the truth. Especially after showing that their first recommendation failed to be any good.
No one can see anything if they approach it in a way that is not investigative.
Your preconceived condemnation will override any evidence shown to you.
And this is a fact we see in our own juror selections. It is the basis for fair trial.
For a fair trial a juror needs to be impartial while investigating evidence, because if they are not impartial the hope for a fair examination of evidence is slim to none!
I am willing to show evidence, if any are willing to be open to investigate.
To see anything, especially from God, you need to set aside any preconceived condemnation before you review of evidence.
If you are not willing to be convinced by evidence "Beyond a REASONABLE DOUBT," then even if Jesus Himself appeared to you. And you could put your fingers into His wounds, you still would not be able to go beyond the limitations of your closed heart and mind.
How did evolution produce a species who have fingerprints that are individually unique. And out of a gazilion people or however many people over generations of taking fingerprints, are not duplicated?
And isnt it curious how Jesus and the Bible discuss our total uniqueness as know, even to the hair on our head which contains our individual dna coding?
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Im not asking people to jump in, Im saying there are too many things to just dismiss. And the evidence is heavy enough crime scene that the evidence is too much to simply ignore.
Its illogical to ignore the amount of evidence surrounding God and the Bible.
Also the Christianity I tell of is a relationship. With a God who demands you search and know Him personally. Not through religion and doctrine. Actually in some ways you are more likely to find Him then the well churched. Because many church people have shut out God's Spirit by hardening their minds and hearts and seeting their doctrines up as their god.
Thats why its a narrow way.
Not because we are narrow, but because we are open to Him whose depths are so deep we could never stop and create a box to contain Him.
So while everyone narrows their mind of understanding, God's Spirit gives us our DAILY bread. Manna for the day, treasures in His word that when presented to our bretheren, or those called by His name are running around without oil, darkening their understanding by their preconceived ideas, instead of jst simplicity of God and letting His Spirit teach us and giving insight in our deepest understanding and making His word living. Living word, not just doctrines on a page but the knowledge of God by knowing Him. Knowing Him!
Either side and every highway will miss out on Him.
And the seed that bears the fruit of missing Him, is a natural mind narrowed by what we think we know.
God doesnt talk to us in our brains, He talks to us in our understanding. And when your brain has all the answers, you cant understand more. And He is the more. The depths.
Even so called Spirit church people will miss out. Because they stopped at doctrines, and erectected a golden calf.
Think through, in negotiating do negotiators argue value to determine what a buyer iis willing to pay, and what a seller is willing to accept for the item to transfer at the agreed on value. Right?
So if the one convinces the another that their ring is of little value, and the other buys it at a fraction of its value what things occurred during this particular negotiation?
Just because a conman convinces you that he had a ring that is of high value and you were stupid enough to buy that ring for high value doesn't mean that the thing actual had a high value. That's what religion is. Your beliefs are an expensive fake ring.
One who belittles value, to steal it. We find this happens to older people a lot.
You should consider there may be trouble with protected freedoms soon. Real soon . Every ground wotk is being laid. The internet is no longer protected ny our constitution.
And they set up a society , what did Hitler do? The most righteous people in tbe world are the Jews and the true people ofvthe Church. So look at what happened there.
I'm not sure how to respond to someone who takes the popular answer by self professing experts. I can tell people are a mimicks and have never looked up their own information and observed evidence objectivly.
Its like it is forbidden!
Excert from web site below.
The New Testament is constantly under attack, and its reliability and accuracy are often contested by critics. If the critics want to disregard the New Testament, then they must also disregard other ancient writings by Plato, Aristotle, and Homer.
This is because the New Testament documents are better-preserved and more numerous than any other ancient writings. Because they are so numerous, they can be cross checked for accuracy . . . and they are very consistent.
There are presently 5,686 Greek manuscripts in existence today for the New Testament.1 If we were to compare the number of New Testament manuscripts to other ancient writings, we find that the New Testament manuscripts far outweigh the others in quantity.
If you care to investigate actual facts, this web site is rich in factual information. And will point you to further resources if you like.
But honestly its exhausting to talk to people who are so brainwashed to hate "religion" specificall Christians, and insist in the most ridiculous of arguments. Honestly, Its hard to find people who really have an open mind to understand and be objective.
And the arguments are all the same empty arguments. No matter how reliable the text by their unreasonable standard Platoe and Aristotle would be less reliable by a large margin.
Add that to the many other dynamics, and you guys have no idea now abaolutely foolish you all look.
This is how dumb that argument is, "Dumb and Dumber" looks smarter!
Get educated on the Bible or discuss a topic you actually thought beyond memes!
Seriously, unreasonable, illogical people for the purpose of bashing faith is deplorable. What you dont realize is there when they take freedom for you to believe whats behind it. And it will emd in enslavement.
Think for a minute. Try it you might like it.
If there were an organized political agenda in collusion with other world leaders, and within a society, which there is. and many laid the foundation in education. And in the culture has steered through media, and programing, and in social media, and the political correct speach.
It was brilliant. They took over from within.
And society has complied. They are opportunists.
They devalued religious freedom and as they did it, they infiltrated with apathy. So the value of religion became null, and in redefining over generations, what would you want to take away? Religion sounds good right. Till you live in a society that is in charge of what you believe.
So effectively the atheist rah rah club is promoting them. And you all dont even know your vulberability. You are almost riipe to be taken over.
Just think about this for a moment. The USA just gave up control of the internet about a month ago or so. Now, society is ripe to be controlled by propaganda, and civil unrest, and the media is inflamed with design.
Greed, power, and gain at the helm. So the internet out of our hands, we couldnt strike freedom of press. Its unconstitutional, or freedom of speach, that goes with post of opinions, which goes back to your beliefs!
And they wand you unarmed also.
So do you think your freedom has been taken by inciting wickedness and coveteousness divisions and vengeance.
So what do hou think the next phase is, now that the internet you all depend on is now not protected by our Constitution.
So recap. Society is a mob shameing others to silence by politically correct speach.
Immorality is set lose like a flood of judgmend to force social depravity into every home. The Lord giving people over. Like Israel we were a nation of honor fearing the Lord.
You can control people enslaved to all their sins easilt. Its the ones who take a stand to illiminate. By the time you all realize you have been enslaved you will have adjusted.
The last freedom they want anyone to have is freedom of belief and principle, free domto exercise beliefs and stand for what they believe, those who take a stand and inspire others. Christianity is an inspiring faith, giving people hope, and principles, meant to also shut down religion.
One is because the influence of hope held back evil, and turned people to their families and to their communities to build and to thrive.
So influential people of principle kept people with hope. And the enslavement thats coming, they want silence.
Look how stupid this is, and the person (be they male or female, who knows?) actually thinks they are being smart. This is a pretty good sign of a person who is bound for Hell and will not be saved...why God gives them time, I don't know...well, I do know I guess, He is merciful.
The video is clearly fake unfortunately. These people are actors.
Overzealous Christian: "oh its like the book of life, do books make themselves??"
Fake atheist: "oh well yeah actually you´re right!!! Thank you so much!!"
Life is extremely complex, the atheist assumption is that life must have come into existence by a immensely complex series of events that we are don't just have the information to yet explain. A Christian looks at life and thinks "simples!! I am intelligent and I can make things that are complex, so therefore something that is as intelligent makes complex things". Could any human intelligence design the programming for all of life? No. So you have to make the assumption that God has an ability beyond that which we understand. The God character is not "intelligent" in any way we understand the word: he doesn't learn nor acquire knowledge for example and his reasoning is unlike any human's (as is evident by the actions in the Bible that seem completely unjustifiable to us). It is better to say God has slupslopslop that allowed him to create the world - and slupslopslop is something we have yet to define. Why couldn't nature have slupslopslop? Certainly nature doesn't have "human intelligence" but nor does God. We must search for the qualities that created the universe but they aren't any more likely to originate from a God character than anything else.
These fools are not even watching the video. They won't watch it. I doubt you will find one person here who claims to be an atheist who will watch the video. They are cowards afraid of facing the truth.
I watched all but a few parts I skipped through....I get choked up watching heart's melt when people begin to realize God loves them. I love watching baptisms,new believers publicly proclaiming their unity with the Lord in His death for their sins, His burial and His resurrection. always brings tears to my eyes, .....and a shout from my heart if not from my mouth....I think a spontaneous and loud amen always comes out of me when I see them raised out of the water in the likeness of Christ's resurrection to walk in newness of life.
Well, I did think I was an atheist. However, having watched that epic I now know I'm an atheist, a much older atheist with eye strain, but nevertheless still an atheist.
Thanks for providing that substantial evidence supporting my belief that there is no god.
Well, I did think I was an Atheist. However, having watched that epic I now know I'm an atheist, a much older atheist with eye strain, but nevertheless still an atheist.
Thanks for providing that substantial evidence supporting my belief that there is no god.
Oh dear a video by ' banana ' man Ray Comfort who is known universally as the worlds stupidest Christian , this takes some doing as there are so many to pick from including the dimwit who posted up this topic .
Comfort being the good Christian he is lives a life of luxury owning a string of restaurants where he fleeces the flock ; this halfwit is also a young earth creationist possibly one of the very few left in the world not counting Americans who seem to keep breeding them because of the amount of religious nuts they seem to have there .
The video is actually hilarious as Banana man asks the most ridiculous questions to an assortment of retards who couldn't tie their shoelaces without help ; what gave me the best laugh though was that Knhav and Now a Stain think this piece of tripe deserves an oscar
Dermot's another big mouth coward who didn't watch it and is afraid to talk about the points of the video. Good you banned him right away, he has a serious problem......came from a Catholic background in Ireland, I think he's a hard drinker since he won't tell how much he drinks....at least he's trying to not be a liar.
So the guy owns a string of restaurants and doesnt need to do what he is doing. He could be on vacation with a blonde and a brunette, bur he is talking to people about God and atheism and asking questions that each face changed to be really effected by his thought provoking questions.
So why should he care? And
Why isnt he on vacation partying?
Jeesze whats wrong with middle aged people these days, doesnt he know he is supposed to be driving a vet and acting like a pompous jackass?
Awww, the poor dermit the hermit is jealous of a man who owns a string of restaurants. There there, you might feel better if you go get drunk.
Comfort doesn't even own restaurants you moron. Go back to your atheist wicked website and read the quote you are misreading
“”Ray Comfort is disappointingly a creationist, not a soft-core porn star or at least the owner of a chain of casual restaurants inevitably located off interstate exits.
—Scott Lemieux, Lawyers, Guns, and Money[1]
And so you are just jealous of anybody who owns a restaurant I guess....and even if Comfort did own restaurants, so what? your just a jealous baby.
The argument that everything that exists has a creator except for the creator that Christians choose to believe in is not a convincing argument to anyone with critical thinking skills.
I watched it. He convinces people to allow for evidence for God to be presented to them, but he never presents any evidence of God. His only argument fails (as I already explained) because I am a critical thinker.
Here's what your words make me think/imagine. There's a guy. He's taking LSD. He knows the hallucinations are not real. Then there's another guy telling him, "You need to believe in order to make it real. Just allow yourself to believe and the rest will follow." ;)
Yes, I know. There is something wrong with everyone who does not believe what you believe. Mormons and JW are cults. Jews who don't know are apostates. And the list goes on. ;)
There is a measure. Many Jews have even become atheist or hold tradition for tradition sake.
The point is God is doing something and waking up both sets with the same message.
And since Jesus warned that deceptions would be like a flood and we should judge truth then yeah your right I judge truth by what is written in a very repetitive book. So repetitive that only the hard of hearts can ignore
Jesus warned that deceptions would be like a flood and we should judge truth... by what is written
1. My interpretation is different
2. I have been witness to countless times when someone used the method you use and the words you use to tell people that the end is near and then we come to find out that they were mistaken.
So, I'm not getting all excited yet about the end of the world. I don't want to be disappointed. So I'm waiting for the rapture. Then and only then will I consider thinking, "Holy crap!!! It's happening!!!" ;)
The natural disaster is going to be bigger than ever.
Havnt you noticed earthquakes are often now and frequently massive?
Look at a chart showing the trend. It spiked and stayed spiked. And the rapture may not occur till later.
Many will die, both saved and sealed and even more unsaved and unsealed.
We may not be taken out right away.
We may have a period of work to do for those who don't die in it.
The church is not ready. And it may take that to wake them up.
The sign in the sky indicates the "start of Jacobs trouble"
There may be two stages to the rapture.
One is a trumpet and warnings to wake people who are asleep in the light. And to raise up truth in the midst of social opposition. And we have only seen spirts of this from the Christians. Most Christians are sleeping, and have put their feet in the world as if they are one with the world.
From what I can see only 30 % of Christians will wake up or are already awake, only 30 % will be raptured. These will be seated first at the wedding feast. The rest will be among that great multitude who didnt take the mark and were martyred in the Book of Revelation.
Revelation 7
8 from the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand, from the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand, from the tribe of Benjamin, twelve thousand were sealed.
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;
10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying,
“Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
Revelation 7
14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Havnt you noticed earthquakes are often now and frequently massive?
No, I haven't noticed that. I have heard of the massive earthquakes that have happened in the past which were much worse than what has happened recently. As far as frequency, I have personally experienced more earthquakes in the past than I have recently.
Not to mention the scientific evidence that another large EQ will hit San Francisco, they know that it's overdue. But this is scientific fact, not biblical.
Yes, it will be horrific and it will be up to every heterosexual couple to repopulate the gay community in San Fran. It will be our duty to create the next generation of homies. Because, if we don't do it, who will ;)
Much of the church has been swept by the spiritual river or flood. The flood out of the serpents mouth. Deceptions using the word in a twisted way, like he did with Eve in the garden.
Revelation 12
15 And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood.
16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth.
17 So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
The current culture that has swept across every civilized nation has embraced the culture of subjective truth. And have diluted the truth, and many call not offending others with the one truth, they call Gods love. Tolerating is not Gods love, stating truth and keeping showing the way even if ostracized is true love. Gods love!
The denial that there is only one truth is being forced on all society, even banging down the doors of churches as in the story of Lot. Which is a pucture of what is current politically and of society. This is scarier than anyone can perceive in their natural mind. This is as serious as it gets! So the watchman God is raising who are fools like me, are fools for Christ sake and will blow the trumpet even if scorned publically. And its all what Jesus said. And the church, most forgotwhat His word said, and their sermons do not change hearts with the power of the Spirit through them. They have closed the door, and the Spirits river, the river of living water, has been cut of and they play church instead of being the church. The church is suposed to be a city on a hill burning light and drawing people up out of the the flood and sea of deceptions. Instead they have gone down and are being swept away also.
Luke 17
36 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left.”
37 And answering they *said to Him, “Where, Lord?” And He said to them, “Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered.”
The root of this acceptance while being swept away is a flood of society and political and worldly pride vengeance hate violence and bitterness are the spirit of antichrist. The spirit of antichrist is what the serpent is using to wage war.
And the Christians put down their sword and helmet which is the mind of Christ and His word in our hearts and our mouths! Its weapon is coercion and its goal, is to push a massive denial of Christ. To cause denial of Christ.
By making it politically correct and society shaming to force them and influence them to adopt another Christ. And to NOT say that He is the One and Only way and One and Only Truth, by declaring the popular FORCE of subjective truth. And also by giving into it and even in agreement with it, giving hearty approval of it.
Many have literally declared and even many have posted a denyial of Christ before men. By mouth, by post, and by their views, opinions, their minds, hearts, and deeds.
They do the opposite. With their mouth profess Him and believe a version of Christ, but in their heart is the wrong Christ they profess from their mouths.
They make sermons of His word but they are blinded by divided hearts. Two people, (Israel and the Church) Two comings, and two peas in a pod! Both have or will miss His coming, and He will come in discipline to those. Just as He did the Jews, when they rejected Him, the Truth as stated in the word.
They say they study His word, and even teach His word, yet failed to see Him as He is, as He really is! Holy!
And by knowing how Holy He is, understand His grace. Knowing Christ and knowing the weight of the worls sin, is to see and know His grace. And knowing the cost of exchange.
Its all by His grace we are saved. But they redefined His grace and His salvation to mean licentiousness for a worldly heart, while they clean the outside of the dish but inwardly are full of dead men's bones.
Judgment begins in the house of God!
1 Peter 4
17 For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
Maybe as someone looking at it from the outside of the church you may see it. Example look at those who were made examples for standing on truth. They lost their lives in this world. Their nest eggs and businesses. How many who say they believe in Christ stand, and how many of them join the world and throw stones at those who are actually standing?
They even boast as they proudly post their divided hearts paraded and accepted before men. 😢 And God calls them harlots. And like warm, He warns He will vomit them up.
Woe!
Matthew 10:33
But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.
Jesus used parables for understanding. The natural mind can't understand spiritual things. And God is not showing you because you reject Him, and you do not really want to know.
Its your hardness of heart and mind against the Spirit that keeps you in darkness. You will remain in darkness and without understanding just as Jews have for 2000 years.
Why would He extend to you beyond your rejection, if He did not for the the custodians of His word and a people known by His name?
Like them you also will be darkened untill you say " Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!" Jesus!
Your foolish heart according to the Bible is darkened as well like theirs.
Even when Jesus is revealed to the Jews, which is shortly, those who are foolish in their hearts, and who do not seek Him, those who have no interest in seeking Him will be destroyed with the wicked. They will not be named among the remnant saved out of Israel. Unless they repent and seek Him.
God doesn't make Himself known to people who have hardened their hearts to Him, and at some point He let's those hearts be hardened to the point that they stumble in the dark even at noon. And the Way is blocked like He blocked the tree of Life in the Garden.
As Jesus said, "those who love light come to light." Like moths to a flame. "Those who love darkness hide from light." These scatter like cochroaches when light is turned on.
Sorry not being mean. I'm giving you another picture.
Because only by understanding and with an open heart can you find God, and understand spiritual things.
As God is the only one who can reveal them in the special place of eyes of understanding!
I don't think you are being mean. Different people think and learn differently. We are having a communication problem. My heart isn't closed to God any more than an autistic child is closed to learning. If God truly wants to reach me, He is the all knowing diety; He'll find a way.
Maybe you are not the person He appointed to get through to me ;)
An autistic child can't help his disability. You control whether truth and God are worth seeking.
Where your treasure is, there your heart is also. So if you value truth, you will seek.
God has already come to you.
You want Him to take your will away, and change your own choice of treasure. He won't do that.
And He has brought His word to you, probably more often then you care to admit. Just like Pharoah. Each time God brought His word, Pharoah hardened his heart. 10 times!
Each time Pharoah said no, and guess what happened?
Pharoah's heart got harder each time he said no. Till plagues of every kind wouldnt change his heart. And finally his hardened heart caused him to even sacraficed the thing he loved most, his son.
While the faithful hid in Christ, the foreknowledge of God's good heart, His lamb, and sacraficing His son to give us who come to Him new hearts.
He rose Him up from death, death couldnt hold Him. But Pharoahs hard heart just gave him death and then even more death. Where in Christ we go from life to abundant life.
Pharoah's heart grew harder and harder, death to more death. Then guess what? Even after all those discussions with God through Moses, Pharoah finally reluctantly listened.
"BUT," but then he was driven by winds and whims, an he changed his mind and chose to embrace even greater death. And his army drowned too.
So every "no" response or even fickle response is being like the example we see in Pharoah. God will let you have the desire of your heart. And if you turn a deaf ear, He will harden your heart as well.
Just like Genie on Jafar, God doesn't meddle in changing hearts and minds, unless they are requesting Him to in response to His word in repentence.
By request and repentance He will create in you a clean heart, and by request He will give you the mind of Christ.
But He won't unless you count the cost and trade it in for the new model. If you want to keep your old jalopy, and drive a junker beater car, then don't trade it in.
God has orchestrated and He had reasoned with you in many ways. He set up times and events and people to speak to you.
BUT, listening, and softening your heart to understand and opening your mind to God's knowledge and wisdom, and to seek truth is the pursuit given to man.
Its why we can take in information and discern right from wrong and reason with logic. These are gifts that make us in the image of God.
But if we reject He takes that gift away. And lets a beast mind be given. One that can't reason with logic. One that can't discern right from wrong.
One that mistakes the wrong knowledge for wise knowledge, one that lacks wisfom, and deevolves to image of animals. So science embracing we are animals, created from animals is prophetic.
They actually are acting out and stating prophesy. They are literally eating the fruit of knowledge and bearing the fruit of death, as they decline to beasts.
By turning a deaf ear, a blind eye, and burying your head in the sand and hardening your own heart is your deal. Not His!
You on trying to convince me that your way is right. And you are not succeeding. ;)
You are not Moses. You are not His prophet. You are not bringing me His word. You are bringing me your interpretation and (regardless of whether it is right or wrong) I am not accepting it. Not from you. Not from someone on a debate site. And no; I am not going searching. Not again. I'm done with that. I even bought a pair of night vision goggles so if I do end up in the dark, I'll be bale to see ;)
I don't know how else to relay this message to you. I know you are all excited about all this "end of times" stuff and all the connections you see everywhere.... that's great. It really is. But I don't share your views. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. Maybe slapshot is more open to your message of salvation ;)
I am informing you of what I know. And we have debated it.
You are a juror for what I showed and its up to you.
Again you are a juror. And I am a juror.
. So far we have shared math equations sitting at the top of two different books in the very first sentence of the books.
. Each are written regarding in the beginning ... and
. Each are in two different periods of God moving through time.
Here is a thought, since both start "in the beginning, if John's era was influenced since Daniel to write in Greek then wouldn't John's book if He wrote similar words have "pi" also if ot were written in Hebrew, like in Genesis 1: 1?
But in John there was a turning outward to the Gentiles, and it's written in Greek and has math principal "e" which oddly is growth rate of doubling.
And wasn't much of what Jesus and the epistles said and the groundwork of the first church was rate of doubling like in bearing interest.
Crazy thing is Jesus literally told us the rate of doubling in the parable of the talents.
So "e" modern day advanced math is not only found in the John 1: 1.
But also tells of rate of doubling in the exponential growth, and Jesus uses the rate of doubling in a parable to describe "e" The focus of the New Testament is to bring the Gospel from one nation out to many nations. Which IS the promise to Abraham that he would be father of MANY nations, in the amount of the sand of the sea.
.Matthew 25
“For it is just like a man about to go on a journey, who called his own slaves and entrusted his possessions to them.
To one he gave five talents, to another, two, and to another, one, each according to his own ability; and he went on his journey.
Immediately the one who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and gained five more talents
A Coincidence or signature?
So then also Jesus, against all opposition pesecution burning Bibles and basically the same as the Jews, Jesus universally defines all dating of history, regardless if dating is done in all cultures and governments date date old and new by Jesus, B.C and A.D. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Old Testament and the Revelation of Him in the New.
Then also...
TORH ...YHWY ...HROT at oddly the Bibles favorite number 7 and the square of it 49, remember Jesus loved math and the number 7, as He commanded we forgive in multiples of 7. 7 x 70.
So how did the Jews orchestrate the rules and all the world who has curiously hated them since the beginning, how did Jews get the whole world to fullfill the many things from prophesy to even recently found hidden text?
You want a sign you wont get one, and even ones there are, you wont see them.
The masses are not His.
He is sorting the trash and pulling those who have hearts who want His ways out of the trash.
If your heart loves trash and darkness you remain in the trash.
He is searching for hearts that say, if He were true, and if His ways were true, if things Jesus said were true and His ways were a way I could live Id choose that over the trash Ive been born into.
Those are the ones He says are worth pulling out of the trash. The rest will be burned.
Like I have said before. I have been down that road before. If He wants me, it is His job as a teacher to reach me. If you think that He has selected you as the medium to me, then that's pretty presumptuous and it hasn't worked yet ;)
What does your first sentence mean? That certain congregations are not going to be saved? Did you mean that there are countless congregations that lead to Him?
Many so called Spirit filled churches are going to miss Him.
Believers in many Bible churches have put one piece of scripture on their head like a helmet, and purposely quench the Holy Spirit, and in a twist they take up an armour against the Holy Spirit and the word, and use a shield against the Spirit and mistake HIS fiery thoughts for the fierty darts of the devil, and take HIS guiding thoughts captive.
They call conviction by the Holy Spirit for purpose of completing the work of the cross to complete us in Jesus, and dealing with sinful attitudes in their hearts, and they ignore Him deciding sensitivity to the Holy Spirit is "doubt" or "lack of faith."
By their lack of understanding they hush the Spirit. As written in Revelation 3, in which Jesus speaks to the churches saying, I stand at the door and knock," while they keep the door shut and play church with a false version of Jesus.
The helmet is flint, and they wear it as if they have a forehead of flint but it hardened against salvation, the shield of false faith to "quench" fiery darts of the Holy Spirit trying to enter their hearts.
Many hold to a form of outward religion, they clean up people outwardly to appear "religious" making a showing without the Spirit transforming power.
They then make nice Sunday sermons with His teachings as if Jesus' words are simply encouraging suggestions.
Many have adopted a false Jesus, rejecting the literal interpretation of His word and quench prophetic words meant to keep them on the narrow way, which will go beyond divisions of denomination.
If they turn a deaf ear it is also quenching the Spirit.
Because as a Christian there is a formula for discerning the difference. Its called actually reading what Jesus said in context, and then identifying those who are saying something different.
Its common sense really. But we know how incredibly smart people think. They explain around everything because their too smart to understand simple common sense.
The Bible discusses just being simple like a child, and using basic reading skills tell exactly what Jesus said, and He even explains and applies the simplest thing.
Maybe knowledge the wrong knowledge happens to be stumbling over the obvious.
Jesus said every jot and stroke of the pen should simply just be understood and taken as spoken at face value.
He commands we apply basic skills, and not try to apply explanations that contradict everything He said.
So basically that is the first test.
2 Corinthians 11:3
But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.
Matthew 18:3
and said, “Truly I say to you, unless you are converted and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Luke 18:17
Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all.”
So to apply to your statement its on God to show you, well what about these folks. Doesnt He give freewill for us to seek truth, or accept what we want to accept?
So? What about the Torah? What about the Koran? Is the same scripture in there? If not, are they wrong? Why should I believe your bible over theirs? When Muslims read the Koran they get the same feeling you get. The feeling you describe as being filled with the Holy Ghost. And they seem MORE committed than you. I mean, they are willing to die for their religion ;)
You know, before I started talking to you the door was cracked to the possibility of a God. Now, as I am being forced to think critically, it is basically shut. The evidence doesn't support the facts. It makes no sense at all. Maybe you should stop before I'm 100% atheist ;)
Its funny you should mention that. I began writing this yesterday, here is part of it. And Ill bold parts for you to skim to get the idea.
Unreasonable arguments are promoted by illogical people for the purpose of bashing faith. And it is deplorable.
What people don't realize, they are being robbed, by devaluing the freedom to believe, and influence.
When they take freedom from othets to influence with what they believe what is behind it?
Look at it for what is under the mask. It will end in enslavement of a free society.
Think for a minute. Try it you might like it.
There were an organized political agenda in collusion with other world leaders, and within a society, which there is, you have your head buried to deny it. And many of these have built the foundation for it in education.
And in this free culture has steered adgenda through media, and programing, and in social media, and the political correct speach.
It was brilliant. They took over from within.
And society has complied.
These are opportunist, watering seeds of distention, and leading society by the noses like cattle.
They have devalued religious freedom, and they did it through apathy. So now the value of religion has became culturally null, as they redefined it over generations.
If you were infiltrating a community, what would you want to take away first?
Religion sounds harmless to remove right?
Till you live in a society that is in charge of what you believe!
Effectively the atheist have created a culture of many militant atheist, in pursuit of silencing anything good that people stand for and believe in, and call it an enemy "religion. Because of the grand excuse it offends others merely by light existing in darkness.
The "rah rah club" socialist, truth silencing to every subjective truth is perfect training to be steered while the political pwers of darkness promote this.
And society doesn't even know they are being used as tools, and set up to be vulnerable, and willingly enslaving themselves. America is now, right now, almost ripe to be taken over.
Its at the door. Its the manifestation of the new world order warned of by Christians over decades, as society plummets and progresses toward fulfilling the final Biblical prophesies.
Just think about this for a moment...
The USA just gave up control of the internet about a month ago or so. Now, society is ripe to be controlled by propaganda, civil unrest, and the media is inflamed with purpose.
Greed, power, and gain at the helm. So the internet out of our hands, we couldn't strike freedom of press.
It WAS unconstitutional, which is also tied to freedom of speech, that goes with post of opinions, which is our main method of voice, and that goes back to your beliefs!! "Religion" is your personal set of beliefs you live by, not merely organized beliefs!
And they want you unarmed also.
▪I must warn here also though, the Christian must get prepare to lose their lives. It will come to that. See the words of Jesus in red in many Bibles! Love not your lives unto death▪
Freedom of independent thought and investigation of information has been taken away, and through it they inflame force of immorality, covetousness, divisions, and vengeance, and violence.
So what do you think the next phase will be now that the internet which most depend on now for information and also their voices, but now not protected by our Constitutional freedoms.
So recap. Society has become an angry mob led by their sin, while shaming others to silence by politically correct speach.
Not because of any "force" of morality, but because of influence of greater good. The strength of a people to reach to the best of mankind. But because of silencing the inflence of morality and personal integrity, people are weakened, and blame to others and lack of striving is the opportunity of fascists.
We can see the massive acceptance of media lieing, backing of treasonous politicians, promotion of sensored and repackaged information, and a standard set to elevate those who lack of professional integrity to skew and even hide true facts in fields of discovery and academia.
These twists of truth are fine to the masses who only vote based on their own selfish lusts and covetous desires. We call it entitlement.
They force even their personal problems like bullies in high school onto all as if its a federal issue! Isn't that something to deal with in high school. Isn't part of that to build strong people who can develope thick skin as well!
People's feelings are NOT a national crisis! But it is being made one... why do you think?
Fyi, the Christian standing in persecution now and over 2000 years have had thick skin protecting their soft hearts!
It's deeper than that! Its decent is to live to please instincts as unreasoning animals.
Immorality is set lose like a flood of judgment to force social depravity into every home by the evil desires of an immoral driven society. The calamity it brings is Lord giving people over to their self seeking, proud as gods, evil hearts. Who seek to silence their own consciences.
Like Israel, we were a nation of honor fearing the Lord. Look at their history of disobedience.
Look at their consequences. We were built on His name and principles, and will be judged as a nation!
Policies can control people enslaved to all their sins easily. It's the ones who take a stand, that needs to be eliminated!
By the time all realize they have been enslaved most will have adjusted like lobster in a boiling pot.
The last freedom they want anyone to have is freedom of belief and principle, free to exercise beliefs and stand for what they believe, those who take a stand and inspire others.
Christianity is an inspiring faith, giving people hope, and principles. Stealing rights to also shut down religious freedom in target against independent thought, especially one based on free will and commands each to think and measure everything around them.
Christianity requires personal accountability for views and opinions, to even thoughts and intentions to actions and omission of actions, to integrity to reach high toward the standard of God.
Jesus commands us to be light to influence growth of good fruit, and to lift other countemance with hope.
Self forgiveness and the forgiveness of others grow strong people who can face change, and whether storms without crippling others, and without elevating our selfish desires over the rights and well being of others.
It influences, and doesn't force. But it offends those who seek to control others. Because selfish hearts steeped in their own motives are easily steered by their own lusts and self elevating internal covetousness and bitterness.
Christians following what Jesus actually taught have a fortitude that gives strength to all in the community, even non believers benefit from the substance Christianity seasons society with.
The support in love, lift each other, disolve grudges, and strengthen each other to stand for, and stand on good things of good conscience.
And stand against evil used to steer others to divide and breed vengeance, unrest, and cancerous bitterness.
A kingdom divided can't stand.
A Kingdom that promote unity and support to the inner person of those around them are enemies to a hostile regime seeking to destroy a people from within. Because you can't easily manipulate principle and personal accountability.
Christianity is salt to season and preserve the very best if man, and turn man from its very worst.
Christianity pushed back and held back evil, and turned people to their families, to build up their communities, and to thrive personally and as a society.
Influential people of principle kept people with hope. And the enslavement that's coming, depend on people having no hope. So they want silence the hope of man strengthened within the hearts and souls of men.
God is proven and His word proven reliable, and its authenticity solid and sure by every standard among historians with professional integrity even secular ones. But not to academia professionals driven by atheist and globalization agendas.
Information should be for the individual to review with independent thought.
Yet all of society welcomes every lie, even knowingly. Choosing to silence conscience and their personal responsibility to the standard of a good conscience, to satisfy self elevating over others.
To make it popular and acceptable to legally, even militantly disregard and disrespect respect the freedoms and rights of others. By removing personal boundaries in a twist. As selfishness reigns in the public square!
1. Different people have different ways of dealing with things.
2. Once you decide how you want to deal with it, there is a strategy for it.
So, for example, if you want to take over the world by enslaving people, you take control of the education system and make that generation open to policies that will eventually lead to their enslavement. Then you implement the policies.
However, that is just logic. You don't need a God to tell you that. A smart person can figure that out on their own. Not only that but it has happened in the past with different socities. It has been happening since the dawn of time. There's nothing new here.
Christianity doesn't automatically fix the problem. Smart atheist can see what is going on. And the majority of them will oppose it without invoking Christianity. Not all atheist are immoral bastards ;)
When independence is removed. Someone else controls you.
And that is opposite of Christianity. Where God sees us as individuals independently evaluating and each responsible for our own lives before God and man.
So although its popular to think the Christian is led by the nose the opposite is true. The Christian is commanded to make clear decissions on information, and choose individually by free thought and free will!
One of Gods judgments is an inability to reason with common sense. It says He will give them over to everything, and they wont be able to reason regarding spiritual things, and in regards to others they reason like animals..
Another thing that is intersting about the Bible is the statements and beliefs people hold.
Its self prophesy fulfiiment and in line with God prophesied. He gives them over to have minds that reason like animals.
So its interesting that they set up a whole story on coming from animals, and pronounced they are animals, and people are becoming animals.
So what do you think the next phase will be now that the internet which most depend on now for information and also their voices, but now not protected by our Constitutional freedoms.
The frightening aspect that makes this urgent for awareness, as the silence Christianity based on free will, society is encouraged to be over sensitive to a religion that disregards free will, and murders based on freedoms, even the immorality elevated in the public square.
Sounds like violent takeover from within and without are encouraged to destroy their very supporters.
John Hulley quote regarding the statistics of Nobel Peace Prize winners:
"It is the religious people who create the environment and the secular who benefit from it. Fairness is in the backbone of both Jewish and Protestant cultures."
John Hulley, a former senior economist with the World Bank in Washington, D.C., who has been living in Jerusalem for the past 14 years. Hulley is author of the book, Comets, Jews, and Christians, published in 1996.
According to Hulley, 86% of Nobel Science prizes from 1901 through 1990 have been won by Jews and Protestants, with Jews taking 22% of the prizes. Jews are also 40 times more likely to win the Science Prize than projected, based on a per capita basis.
Look at it for what is under the mask. It will end in enslavement of a free society.
There has been an organized political agenda in collusion with other world leaders, and within a society, which there is, you have your head buried to deny it. And many of these have built the foundation for it in education.
And in this free culture has steered adgenda through media, and programing, and in social media, and the political correct speech.
It was brilliant. They took over from within.
And society has complied.
These are opportunist, watering seeds of distention, and leading society by the noses like cattle.
They have devalued religious freedom, and they did it through apathy. So now the value of religion has became culturally null, as they redefined it over generations.
If you were infiltrating a community, what would you want to take away first?
Religion sounds harmless to remove right?
Till you live in a society that is in charge of what you believe!The USA just gave up control of the internet about a month ago or so. Now, society is ripe to be controlled by propaganda, civil unrest, and the media is inflamed with purpose.
Greed, power, and gain at the helm. So the internet out of our hands, we couldn't strike freedom of press.
It WAS unconstitutional, which is also tied to freedom of speech, that goes with post of opinions, which is our main method of voice, and that goes back to your beliefs!! "Religion" is your personal set of beliefs you live by, not merely organized beliefs!
Freedom of independent thought and investigation of information has been taken away, and through it they inflame force of immorality, covetousness, divisions, and vengeance, and violence.
So what do you think the next phase will be now that the internet which most depend on now for information and also their voices, but now not protected by our Constitutional freedoms.
Policies can control people enslaved to all their sins easily. It's the ones who take a stand, that needs to be eliminated!
By the time all realize they have been enslaved most will have adjusted like lobster in a boiling pot.
The last freedom they want anyone to have is freedom of belief and principle, free to exercise beliefs and stand for what they believe, those who take a stand and inspire others.
Christianity is an inspiring faith, giving people hope, and principles. Stealing rights to also shut down religious freedom in target against independent thought, especially one based on free will and commands each to think and measure everything around them.
The Torah is part of our religion. Christianity fulfilled Jusaism.
We are actually one religion.
Jews are purposely blinded for a time because they did not recognize Him, although all their scriptures told of Jesus.
The veil will be lifted in the last stage concluding this world, and entering into His reign on earth.
The Quran is as reliable as the book of mormon.
And both contradict the teachings of Jesus and the apostles!
Matthew 5:16-18
16 Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets;
I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
John 5:38-40
38 You do not have His word abiding in you, for you do not believe Him whom He sent.
39 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; 40 and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.
Luke 4:21
And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing.”
Luke 21:24
and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
Luke 24:44-47
44 Now He said to them, “These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45 Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and He said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
That means nothing. You have a book and you pull quotes from it out of context and claim that the Quran is null and void. I bet a well versed Muslim could do the same thing and show that the Quran is right and the Christian bible is wrong ;)
As far as the Torah, Christians added some dubious stuff to it and claim their version is right. That makes no sense. If God is perfect then His word is perfect and correct the first time around. If His word is perfect an correct the first time around, then there's no need to add to it. If anyone adds to it, then it might be for nefarious reasons. Satan is the great deceiver. Maybe he created the new testament to confuse and lead astray God's people. ;)
This time if you take the numerical value of each of the Greek letters (see chart), and the numerical value of the words, and apply them to the same formula:
Number of Letters x Product of the Letters
÷
Number of Words x Product of the Words
You now get 2.7183 x 1040, the value of “e” again to four decimal places!
. Sitting at the top of two different books
. And in the very first sentence of the books.
. Each are written regarding in the beginning … and
. Each are in two different periods of God moving through time.
. Here is a thought, since both start with the words “in the beginning,”
. The ONLY two books in the Bible to start with “in the beginning”
. A thought, John’s era was influenced ever since the time of Daniel. This is when they began to write in Greek.
Conclusion, if the Jews were not taken captive by Babylon, then John’s book would have likely also been written in Hebrew just as the Old Testament.
. If John was writing Hebrew, these similar words from these two books would not have “e” in the text. would in part have the verse in Genesis where “pi” is encoded.
The placement of “e” not only is a fun fact oddly found. It tells in context, of God’s purpose and mission statement in the New Testament.
. Even John writing in Greek indicates the mission statement God intended, extending beyond the Hebrew Nation.
16 If the first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too.
17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree,
18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you.
19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”
20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off.
23 And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in;
Yesterday, Dec 23 rd was most likely a very significant day in end times prophesy regarding the time of Jacob's trouble in the "latter days."
Re: UN regarding Israel.
This is the kind of thing, along with news related to Turkey are what is being watched for by most credible prophesy teachers.
Jeremiah 30:6-8
6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?
7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.
8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Fyi - Turkey assasinated a Russian ambassador today.
Turkey is one identified to start ww3
And I think planet x or something that pulls interactively in space may deliver natural disasters that annihilate much of the USA in "1 hour"
And regarding oneness of the Bible:
Galatians 3: 20-29 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
20 Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one.
21 Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law. 22 But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. 24 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith.
25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.
28 And say unto him, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority to do these things?
29 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I will also ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things.
30 The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me.
31 And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say, Why then did ye not believe him?
32 But if we shall say, Of men; they feared the people: for all men counted John, that he was a prophet indeed.
33 And they answered and said unto Jesus, We cannot tell. And Jesus answering saith unto them, Neither do I tell you by what authority I do these things.
Maybe you are a Pharisee?
Pharisee didnt really want the answer.
So He didnt tell them.
By what standard .... by what authority ....
He didnt answer them ever. He left them hanging!
He never gave to us blind faith
And I never said I believe it because it just is so.
Faith is the "EVIDENCE"
God is judicial. He bears witness with visible evidence
The body and everything!
Hebrews 11 King James Version (KJV)
11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.Really but show me where you have the same thing
Mine you can pick up and see
Show me yours
I only believe what I can see as evidence
Are you trying a case without a body and without a murder weapon?
Isaiah 1:18
“Come now, and let us REASON together,” Says the Lord, “Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool.
He reasons and also provides evidence.
And if you are a jury who is partial and bias while weighing evidence you are disqualified even as a juror!
There are Muslims that would say exactly the same thing. Why are they not correct and YOU are?? Jews? Catholics? ( that YOU say are not "Christians")! I know Catholics that say THEY are the "only true religion". You interpret "The Book" as YOU wish, They interpret theirs as THEY wish. NO GOD shows up to straighten out the mess, ....."Then why call him god?"
Christians believe the "book" cobbled together by Constantine, Muslims believe the Qur'an, allegedly, given to Mohammad by the "Angel Gabriel" in a cave. A "Muslim" is a person who has submitted to a "god", a born again Christian is a person who has submitted to a "god". And so, over centuries, we wage "holy wars" to kill those who don't "believe" the "hearsay" of both sides! Those "faiths are well proven and documented" IF you believe the hearsay! I don't give a DAMN what you (or "they") believe, just STF UP and allow a world of peace, THAT is what the vast majority of us Atheists want, not a war to prove whose book of godliness is correct! (Or proven and well documented)! Sorry, I hate lowering myself to the level of hate that comes from "peaceful religions"!
And show me how other religions including Catholocism are peaceful.
Jesus said dont fight to keep our lives in this world but lay them down when violence presents itself. Because life eternal is greater, and loving not our cartons unto death is living in the eternal.
His kingdom doesnt fight for place and things and violate others so we can be comfortable and full of ourselves.
And we let God take vengeance, and we are free from these.
So those truely in Jesus, the real Christians lived life singing, while they were even burned at the stake.
If you unmask history you will see Satan and powers that control this natural world.
We are not of this world. So we build a life and when storms knock it down we praise Him anyway and we dont let our countence fall and stay fallen. We look up and see greater is He in us then he in the world.
I'll just make ONE of the thousands of "hearsay points. The nativity: It was "made up" by St Francis of Assisi as a "way" to explain the birth of Jesus to his "flock". - hearsay-
Exactly what I'm waiting for, proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Scripture (written by man), is NOT PROOF. An entity that showed him/her/itself, and demonstrated power to "do things" would be "proof". I've been waiting all my life ....I'm running out of time! YOU, cannot prove anything to me, only an actual, visible, experienced "proof" can do that. I don't think that's too much to ask!? A "youtube video just ain't gonna cut it!
Drop in, show yourself, bring a book of rules, show YOURSELF to be the author and something to respect ... I will follow! A reasonable request, I think. I'm waiting........
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is NOT omnipotent.
This question which is supposed to be rhetorical and unanswerable is stupid. God does now work according to your wishes, He will separate evil from the presence of the living in His time. If he were to do it now like you imply He should, you would be burning in Hell as the evil is in your heart the same as in the hearts of the people you GLOAT over as if their ability to do evil gives you proof that God is not good.
You are boasting, cheering evil as you feel it proves God is not good...why are you doing that? because you are evil.
If you believe in an all powerful God that could do anything, why can't He allow a species to go through 10,000 adaptations. It is because you don't actually believe in an all powerful God. NowASaint says that atheists replace God with themselves. Every time we attack NowASaint he thinks we are talking about God. He had replaced God with himself. According to his own reasoning he is an atheist. If I had any reason to believe you would listen to facts I would have presented them previously. You don't though. You care more about the number 7 than you do about facts.
God cares about the # 7. There are at least 49 references to the number 7 in Revelations alone. So I gave relative facts and stated a fact. Its either a combination of off the chart coincidences, or its common and ordinary.
I find it to out of the ordinary to reasonably ignore. And they are at the very least curious and interesting. But it certainly isnt nothing to muse over or think about. Unless the facinating and investigation is uninportant, which would be characteristic of an unscientific mind.
Maybe God laid out 7s so liberally because He really wanted us to pick up on coincidences that are beyond average coincidences.
One way we say hey this is curious, I wonder if there is something to learn or know of vital importance.
Recommended by you (whose all 'common sense' arguments have always been terrible (a monkey would write Jesus and you'll think that anyone who doesn't consider it like a religious zombie is an idiot))
As I can see from the comments on the video (and the ratings), terrible
But I will still be watching it if that's the best you have. Is it?
The video is clearly fake unfortunately. These people are actors.
Overzealous Christian: "oh its like the book of life, do books make themselves??"
Fake atheist: "oh well yeah actually you´re right!!! Thank you so much!!"
Life is extremely complex, the atheist assumption is that life must have come into existence by a immensely complex series of events that we are don't just have the information to yet explain. A Christian looks at life and thinks "simples!! I am intelligent and I can make things that are complex, so therefore something that is as intelligent makes complex things". Could any human intelligence design the programming for all of life? No. So you have to make the assumption that God has an ability beyond that which we understand. The God character is not "intelligent" in any way we understand the word: he doesn't learn nor acquire knowledge for example and his reasoning is unlike any human's (as is evident by the actions in the Bible that seem completely unjustifiable to us). It is better to say God has slupslopslop that allowed him to create the world - and slupslopslop is something we have yet to define. Why couldn't nature have slupslopslop? Certainly nature doesn't have "human intelligence" but nor does God. We must search for the qualities that created the universe but they aren't any more likely to originate from a God character than anything else.
So possibly your preconceived thoughts tricked your eyes.
You know thats a natural phenomenal.
And it happens all the time, even people who are believers, read His word and see what they think not what it says.
Like example. In Luke 17 there is a section where Jesus says two in the field one taken one left, and there are a few examples given one taken and one left.
They created songs around it like " wish we had all been ready" and used this scriprure in sermons regarding the rapture.
So everyone bypasses what it actually says!
The disciples aske where are they taken?
Jesus answers where the bodies are the vultures gather.
If God were not good, and as you see Him withdrawl His intervention man is increasingly evil. They are devouring each other all from one seed. Pride
And it will get worse. Because God says He is going to give man over to the evil they really are in the end. And by doing so, He will step into the next phase after saving those whose hearts love light out of it.
So why didnt God just flush it in the beginning?
Think about it. You need to get that answered yourself. The spiritual always has a natural example.
So think time travel.
If God knew you, even just you would come into this world now, and God is love, and He knew you would be one to turn your heart toward Him, then would God be Love and Just if He aborted you and all His other children just because of the many who love darkness?
Now realize, He holds back evil and He came into the world, and He took the death like a death eater, and ransomed all those He didnt abort. He ransomed all those and will not leave even one He foreknew would be His behind.
No soul of His born into this crummy trash dump of this world, with coffee grounds and diaper dung and rotting trash which has has stained us, will keep Him from sorting through the trash and pulling us out of it.
He is our Commander and Chief and He promises none of His souls not one will be left behind
You do you realise that none of you are making any arguments here both the Christians and Atheists. As an Atheist I urge you all to go watch the majority of this persons youtube videos thank you.
The truth is right there in front of our face. But most Atheists are not interested in the truth. This is entertainment to them. Want the truth? Want reality? Well, here it is. https://www.facebook.com/groups/568783893320275/
They'll say "Comfort is debunked (one of the most mindless of modern phrases) when in reality Comfort is showing the silliness of atheistic beliefs interviewing leading atheistic physicists and "evolutionary biologists" showing Dawkins the "mild molestation of children" supporter making a fool of himself trying to explain how nothing made everything and getting laughed at by the crowd while he can't understand what was funny about how he tried to explain his belief that nothing made everything....and a dozen or two everyday brainiacs being forced to face the silliness of believing life happened by chance............
"show me the evidence" is the mantra that most atheists will never drop.....and they won't drop it because they know that if they admit God is there, it means they are subject to His will and are not their own masters.
Just ban them if they are not going to watch the video....all they are doing is trying to discourage others from watching what they are afraid to watch.
I watched all but maybe two minutes where I skipped through the parts that are tear jerkers for me. I love Ray Comfort, I knew this video was going to be made available for the public free of charge and I waited to see it. Thanks for using it, I didn't know yet that it was open for free public view.
In one of my earlier posts I gave a pretty thorough commentary on the first half of the video and plenty of comments on the last half showing atheistic hearts softening up at that thought of God's love.
I'm being supportive of you here, I'm probably the only person who watched the video and these clowns are only trying to discourage others from watching by taking the lead with there stupid clown antic remarks.
You know the internet is a flood, and brings a lot of bad to our doors. But God uses all things for good that love Him and are called according to His purpose.
How many people stumble on and our post is a seed, or an answer, or strengthening people who needed to know how sure faith really is.
So always make your post to them. Even if we are raptured, they may find the way from the posts we left behind.
So realize, every post is for someone maybe even for many.
I look at it like that. Who knows. So be informative full of the Gospel and realize, if they are in Great Tribulation, we may be removed. They may rely on some of our posts or seeds sown in our conversations to get them through so they do not bow, and take the mark, and with our testimony left behind they may be pointed to seek God and confess Christ instead.