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 This is a must watch. Especially if you think you might be an atheist. (126)

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This is a must watch. Especially if you think you might be an atheist.

This is a must watch. Especially if you think you might be an atheist. 

https://youtu.be/ChWiZ3iXWwM

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2 points

OmG.....i did not know atheists here are such cowards...

I wonder why they don't believe in religion then....

They are just avoiding any proof being presented to them.

Not that they find the truth and reject it but they just don't want to know...(so many excuses)

I conclude...all these so called 'atheists' are just FUCKWITS not actual atheists.......

Allan_osborn(36) Disputed
2 points

You lose 2-1 .. the logician and the deist in me both take offence to you use of profanity .. the cynic feels defeated by admitting "well trolled sir" ..

Cartman(18191) Disputed
1 point

Which atheists on this site are you talking about? Are you talking about KNHav and NowASaint who admit that they don't actually believe in God indirectly even though they claim to believe in religion, or are you talking about the people who honestly say there is no God? If you are talking about the people who directly say there is no God then you are way off. Ray Comfort didn't say anything new ever. If you have seen 1 comfort movie you have seen them all. He doesn't present evidence for God. He gets you to the point where you can start being presented evidence of God and he stops. It isn't cowardly to tell KNHav that Comfort isn't convincing at all. If, however, you are talking about the atheists KNHav and NowASaint then you are absolutely right that they are cowardly for avoiding all complaints about the movie and banning people.

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This really is a much watch.I would love to here your responses.

If you can watch this and still be an atheist, your fate of an unreasonable mind just really may be fatally sealed.

https://youtu.be/ChWiZ3iXWwM

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This really is a much watch.I would love to here your responses.

If you can watch this and still be an atheist, your fate of an unreasonable mind just really may be fatally sealed.

https://youtu.be/ChWiZ3iXWwM

Hellno(17759) Disputed
2 points

Jesus Christ! I was willing to give it a try but it's a hour long! Forget that.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

I dont think you could say your an atheist if you watched.

You should watch it and be my first true debate on it.

NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

Look how stupid this is, and the person (be they male or female, who knows?) actually thinks they are being smart. This is a pretty good sign of a person who is bound for Hell and will not be saved...why God gives them time, I don't know...well, I do know I guess, He is merciful.

The video is clearly fake unfortunately. These people are actors.

Overzealous Christian: "oh its like the book of life, do books make themselves??"

Fake atheist: "oh well yeah actually you´re right!!! Thank you so much!!"

Life is extremely complex, the atheist assumption is that life must have come into existence by a immensely complex series of events that we are don't just have the information to yet explain. A Christian looks at life and thinks "simples!! I am intelligent and I can make things that are complex, so therefore something that is as intelligent makes complex things". Could any human intelligence design the programming for all of life? No. So you have to make the assumption that God has an ability beyond that which we understand. The God character is not "intelligent" in any way we understand the word: he doesn't learn nor acquire knowledge for example and his reasoning is unlike any human's (as is evident by the actions in the Bible that seem completely unjustifiable to us). It is better to say God has slupslopslop that allowed him to create the world - and slupslopslop is something we have yet to define. Why couldn't nature have slupslopslop? Certainly nature doesn't have "human intelligence" but nor does God. We must search for the qualities that created the universe but they aren't any more likely to originate from a God character than anything else.

1 point

What if you know you're an atheist? Should you watch it then?

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

After you watch it you may question that. I would. ...................................

NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

These fools are not even watching the video. They won't watch it. I doubt you will find one person here who claims to be an atheist who will watch the video. They are cowards afraid of facing the truth.

I watched all but a few parts I skipped through....I get choked up watching heart's melt when people begin to realize God loves them. I love watching baptisms,new believers publicly proclaiming their unity with the Lord in His death for their sins, His burial and His resurrection. always brings tears to my eyes, .....and a shout from my heart if not from my mouth....I think a spontaneous and loud amen always comes out of me when I see them raised out of the water in the likeness of Christ's resurrection to walk in newness of life.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Trust me its really well done it will challenge your thoughts.

I really am selective on what I recommend watching. 😇

Antrim(1297) Banned
1 point

Well, I did think I was an atheist. However, having watched that epic I now know I'm an atheist, a much older atheist with eye strain, but nevertheless still an atheist.

Thanks for providing that substantial evidence supporting my belief that there is no god.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

You did not watch this. You lie. Its longer by a good bit of your reply.

You should watch it. And you shouldnt lie to people!

Antrim(1297) Banned
1 point

Well, I did think I was an Atheist. However, having watched that epic I now know I'm an atheist, a much older atheist with eye strain, but nevertheless still an atheist.

Thanks for providing that substantial evidence supporting my belief that there is no god.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

You did not watch this. You lie. Its longer by a good bit of your reply.

You should watch it. And you shouldnt lie to people!

https://youtu.be/ChWiZ3iXWwM

Hellno(17759) Disputed
2 points

Why shouldn't he lie? I lie to people all the time. Hell! I might be lying right now.

Dermot(5796) Banned
1 point

Oh dear a video by ' banana ' man Ray Comfort who is known universally as the worlds stupidest Christian , this takes some doing as there are so many to pick from including the dimwit who posted up this topic .

Comfort being the good Christian he is lives a life of luxury owning a string of restaurants where he fleeces the flock ; this halfwit is also a young earth creationist possibly one of the very few left in the world not counting Americans who seem to keep breeding them because of the amount of religious nuts they seem to have there .

The video is actually hilarious as Banana man asks the most ridiculous questions to an assortment of retards who couldn't tie their shoelaces without help ; what gave me the best laugh though was that Knhav and Now a Stain think this piece of tripe deserves an oscar

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

I doubt you watched it through. Why bother giving your 2 cents its not worth much. Just about 2 cents thats all.

NowASaint(1389) Disputed
0 points

Dermot's another big mouth coward who didn't watch it and is afraid to talk about the points of the video. Good you banned him right away, he has a serious problem......came from a Catholic background in Ireland, I think he's a hard drinker since he won't tell how much he drinks....at least he's trying to not be a liar.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

So the guy owns a string of restaurants and doesnt need to do what he is doing. He could be on vacation with a blonde and a brunette, bur he is talking to people about God and atheism and asking questions that each face changed to be really effected by his thought provoking questions.

So why should he care? And

Why isnt he on vacation partying?

Jeesze whats wrong with middle aged people these days, doesnt he know he is supposed to be driving a vet and acting like a pompous jackass?

NowASaint(1389) Disputed
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Awww, the poor dermit the hermit is jealous of a man who owns a string of restaurants. There there, you might feel better if you go get drunk.

Comfort doesn't even own restaurants you moron. Go back to your atheist wicked website and read the quote you are misreading

“”Ray Comfort is disappointingly a creationist, not a soft-core porn star or at least the owner of a chain of casual restaurants inevitably located off interstate exits.

—Scott Lemieux, Lawyers, Guns, and Money[1]

And so you are just jealous of anybody who owns a restaurant I guess....and even if Comfort did own restaurants, so what? your just a jealous baby.

1 point

The argument that everything that exists has a creator except for the creator that Christians choose to believe in is not a convincing argument to anyone with critical thinking skills.

Counter argument part 1

Counter argument part 2

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Did you honestly watch the clip or are you just living life on hearsay?

Cartman(18191) Disputed
1 point

I watched it. He convinces people to allow for evidence for God to be presented to them, but he never presents any evidence of God. His only argument fails (as I already explained) because I am a critical thinker.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Our faith is well proven and documented. .......................................

AlofRI(3251) Clarified
1 point

There are Muslims that would say exactly the same thing. Why are they not correct and YOU are?? Jews? Catholics? ( that YOU say are not "Christians")! I know Catholics that say THEY are the "only true religion". You interpret "The Book" as YOU wish, They interpret theirs as THEY wish. NO GOD shows up to straighten out the mess, ....."Then why call him god?"

Christians believe the "book" cobbled together by Constantine, Muslims believe the Qur'an, allegedly, given to Mohammad by the "Angel Gabriel" in a cave. A "Muslim" is a person who has submitted to a "god", a born again Christian is a person who has submitted to a "god". And so, over centuries, we wage "holy wars" to kill those who don't "believe" the "hearsay" of both sides! Those "faiths are well proven and documented" IF you believe the hearsay! I don't give a DAMN what you (or "they") believe, just STF UP and allow a world of peace, THAT is what the vast majority of us Atheists want, not a war to prove whose book of godliness is correct! (Or proven and well documented)! Sorry, I hate lowering myself to the level of hate that comes from "peaceful religions"!

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Yes. That's why I can safely say you are definitely an atheist.

Long

Recommended by you (whose all 'common sense' arguments have always been terrible (a monkey would write Jesus and you'll think that anyone who doesn't consider it like a religious zombie is an idiot))

As I can see from the comments on the video (and the ratings), terrible

But I will still be watching it if that's the best you have. Is it?

1 point

The video is clearly fake unfortunately. These people are actors.

Overzealous Christian: "oh its like the book of life, do books make themselves??"

Fake atheist: "oh well yeah actually you´re right!!! Thank you so much!!"

Life is extremely complex, the atheist assumption is that life must have come into existence by a immensely complex series of events that we are don't just have the information to yet explain. A Christian looks at life and thinks "simples!! I am intelligent and I can make things that are complex, so therefore something that is as intelligent makes complex things". Could any human intelligence design the programming for all of life? No. So you have to make the assumption that God has an ability beyond that which we understand. The God character is not "intelligent" in any way we understand the word: he doesn't learn nor acquire knowledge for example and his reasoning is unlike any human's (as is evident by the actions in the Bible that seem completely unjustifiable to us). It is better to say God has slupslopslop that allowed him to create the world - and slupslopslop is something we have yet to define. Why couldn't nature have slupslopslop? Certainly nature doesn't have "human intelligence" but nor does God. We must search for the qualities that created the universe but they aren't any more likely to originate from a God character than anything else.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Their eyes changed and some even became flush.

So possibly your preconceived thoughts tricked your eyes.

You know thats a natural phenomenal.

And it happens all the time, even people who are believers, read His word and see what they think not what it says.

Like example. In Luke 17 there is a section where Jesus says two in the field one taken one left, and there are a few examples given one taken and one left.

They created songs around it like " wish we had all been ready" and used this scriprure in sermons regarding the rapture.

So everyone bypasses what it actually says!

The disciples aske where are they taken?

Jesus answers where the bodies are the vultures gather.

So its probably not a rapture verse.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

There is seed. Gods word starts out with it. And even describes its origin.

God is one. His people in Him are one. When pride is raised, it divides from being one. A kingdom divided cant stand.

So seeds born in pride bear fruits that grow into trees and thorns and weeds.

The seed of pride made Satan, because his pride separated Him.

If you could actually see God intervened, He brought light into darkness.

Think for one moment without condemnation. Let yourself think.

How evil would man actually be if Gods didnt season it with salt and bring light. What would our communities be like without salt?

Think this as example. 2 descendants of Abraham in one part of the world.

One was returned land in the desert and made a community and thrived.

While countries around them have been there forever and have ravaged their own people and bleed out blood over all their land and beyond.

And all hate one little group the size of Rhoad Island. And want to take even that.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

If God were not good, and as you see Him withdrawl His intervention man is increasingly evil. They are devouring each other all from one seed. Pride

And it will get worse. Because God says He is going to give man over to the evil they really are in the end. And by doing so, He will step into the next phase after saving those whose hearts love light out of it.

So why didnt God just flush it in the beginning?

Think about it. You need to get that answered yourself. The spiritual always has a natural example.

So think time travel.

If God knew you, even just you would come into this world now, and God is love, and He knew you would be one to turn your heart toward Him, then would God be Love and Just if He aborted you and all His other children just because of the many who love darkness?

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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Now realize, He holds back evil and He came into the world, and He took the death like a death eater, and ransomed all those He didnt abort. He ransomed all those and will not leave even one He foreknew would be His behind.

No soul of His born into this crummy trash dump of this world, with coffee grounds and diaper dung and rotting trash which has has stained us, will keep Him from sorting through the trash and pulling us out of it.

He is our Commander and Chief and He promises none of His souls not one will be left behind

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You do you realise that none of you are making any arguments here both the Christians and Atheists. As an Atheist I urge you all to go watch the majority of this persons youtube videos thank you.

Supporting Evidence: Watch the majority of this guys videos. You should (m.youtube.com)
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You guys weren't even making an argument here, both Christians and Atheists

Supporting Evidence: Watch the majority of this guys videos. You should (m.youtube.com)

The truth is right there in front of our face. But most Atheists are not interested in the truth. This is entertainment to them. Want the truth? Want reality? Well, here it is. https://www.facebook.com/groups/568783893320275/

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They'll say "Comfort is debunked (one of the most mindless of modern phrases) when in reality Comfort is showing the silliness of atheistic beliefs interviewing leading atheistic physicists and "evolutionary biologists" showing Dawkins the "mild molestation of children" supporter making a fool of himself trying to explain how nothing made everything and getting laughed at by the crowd while he can't understand what was funny about how he tried to explain his belief that nothing made everything....and a dozen or two everyday brainiacs being forced to face the silliness of believing life happened by chance............

"show me the evidence" is the mantra that most atheists will never drop.....and they won't drop it because they know that if they admit God is there, it means they are subject to His will and are not their own masters.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Watch the whole move. Seriously trust me. You will be blessed.

You watched only the ground work so far.

https://youtu.be/ChWiZ3iXWwM

NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

Just ban them if they are not going to watch the video....all they are doing is trying to discourage others from watching what they are afraid to watch.

NowASaint(1389) Clarified
1 point

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KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

This is a discussion on the video. We hear what you say in every post. And I appreciate your stand for God.

Id really like you to watch the entire video and discuss that.

Thank you

NowASaint(1389) Disputed
1 point

I watched all but maybe two minutes where I skipped through the parts that are tear jerkers for me. I love Ray Comfort, I knew this video was going to be made available for the public free of charge and I waited to see it. Thanks for using it, I didn't know yet that it was open for free public view.

In one of my earlier posts I gave a pretty thorough commentary on the first half of the video and plenty of comments on the last half showing atheistic hearts softening up at that thought of God's love.

I'm being supportive of you here, I'm probably the only person who watched the video and these clowns are only trying to discourage others from watching by taking the lead with there stupid clown antic remarks.