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This line about god cracked me up!
So I wanted to share it. I was watching an old rerun of one of my favorite all-time series, "Arrested Development." In this particular scene an atheist woman was being asked questions by a judge at a beauty pageant. She was a contestant.
I think it was some sort of Christian-sponsored pageant. So the judge asks her, "Can you tell us how much of an impact god has played in your life?"
And she replies......"Oh, I'd say about as much as Big Bird or the Keebler elves."
LOL.
I agree 100%. It is the same for me, and for everybody really, if they truly had to admit it, that god does not do a tangible thing, except act as a placebo adult version of a childhood imaginary friend. Again, like a Big Bird or an elf.
You misspelled God's name, and Big Bird and Keebler elves would be created things, so when you call refer to God as a thing but spelling his name like god is a thing rather than God who is the Creator of all things including the ability to imaging things like Big Bird or Keebler Elves, you are creating a straw man and arguing against that straw man.
The appropriate response for that girl would have been to say "I do not believe in God so I cannot say He has done anything for me". That would be respectable. For her to compare God to the Big Bird and Keebler elves is an insult to God first, and then to everybody who knows He is God, basically calling them deluded. The girl should be disqualified from any pageant which scores character when she makes a comment like that.
God gets the last laugh, Slappy......laugh it up while you can if that's the way you want to go.
That girl should have been sent packing with no explanation and the judges then could post there reason for throwing her out on her tail later. She should not have been allowed to stand to talk on that property for one second after that comment, she should have been escorted out the door with all of her belongings.
"I do not believe in God so I cannot say He has done anything for me". That would be respectable.
To be fair though, if she had said that then they would probably have asked her why she deserves to exist outside of hell. To get through to thick headed Christians you really need to humiliate them.
Agreed. I have grown weary of being respectful to some of the more zealous Christians around here. Why should I? They don't respect my atheism or my science, so the gloves are coming off, my friend.
Evolution is a belief system, it is not science. It is a belief in which you hope to escape responsibility for your sins, an impossibility. Evolution is based on lies and it's promise are false, why in the world should anybody respect it?
You as a person I can respect when you are not cussing and and you are being respectful unlike the girl who is your hero for being offensively rude. When you present true scientific discovery by observation which I can see and prove for myself, that is respectable. I can also show by factual scientific data the controversial and variable interpretations of everything in "evolutionary science" which puts belief in evolution above true science. And I'm sorry to say, it all boils down to one thing....it's stupid to believe in evolution. How do you like me now?
Call me delusional as I call your beliefs stupid....but there is a limit to how much bare knuckle garbage I will entertain you with. If all you can do is cuss and present insults like this stupid straw man idea of changing God, who goes far beyond our understanding, into a little thing like Big Bird and then arguing against your imaginary god who fits inside your imagination only when you can imagine He is only a created thing........then I have to say your whole belief system limits your communication and comprehension level beneath what my time is worth.
If you are not going to be respectful, I can ignore you the same as I ignore many on here as long as the law prevents you haters from crucifying me. I can kick you out of my conversations a lot faster than I could kick that little rude smart Alec out of the pageant as she should be kicked out.
You do something useful with tools of science and not just promoting evolution which is good for nothing, then I'll respect your science. Keep spouting off that your twisted "evidences" of evolution claiming your beliefs equal science and I'll show it's only a belief system not based on real science.
I think it would have been good to ask her, as she is being escorted off the property with all of her belongings, things like "What makes you think you deserve to exist outside of Hell?" But to entertain her rudeness after she made that stupid comment smacking her lips like she devoured God.......nope. Kick her out first.
You don't come into my house and humiliate me unless you are ready for a fight. That girl was acting like she was the queen in power over that place......kick her out.
You probably would not last one day on here if I owned this site....Slap Shot might, but I don't think you would.
Sir I believe you are stupid,Just because "YOU"believe in the existence of your Imaginary friend "GOD"doesn't mean everyone has to.Unlike you she has a smart opinion which hasn't come from a scripture written Hundred's of years back.
I simply failed to capitalize it. I did this intentionally. Why is the world would I take the bother to capitalize it? It's no more deserving of being capped than are the words: elf; ghost; demon; superstition; imaginary friend; or spirit.
To me they are all the same, and indeed poses equal amounts of credibility.
I guess you forgot some basics of English.....the name of a person, like your name, is a proper noun and is to be capitalized. How can you argue against God when you say you are not arguing against God but against god which would be something like cement, rubber, trees, whatever........if you are going to be an honest atheist, you have to say that God is not God are you are being dishonest. I guess you can be a dishonest atheist and argue against straw men.
The only one you want to deny is God, the Living God, the Creator of Heaven and Earth and all things therein. You really don't care about other gods, there is only one God you want to be free from because you know you are guilty and if you can't be free from God you are on your way to Hell. So go on and fool yourself into thinking you are free of God's influence and not subject to His rule.
You really don't care about other gods, there is only one God you want to be free from because you know you are guilty and if you can't be free from God you are on your way to He
And believe in the tooth fairy and know that you should not put your teeth in the bin. Or maybe not. i really dont know but its fun to make up things about people then tell them off for whatever it is you make up right?
The tooth fairy does not compare to God. God cannot be contained in your imagination like whatever you can imagine. You are creating a straw man which is less than God and can be contained in your imagination and then saying the thing you have created is unreal. You are not talking about God who gave you the ability to imagine absurdities.
Why do atheists think they are smart when they create a straw man and then argue the straw man they created is not real? You really have to stroke your ego a lot to conclude you defeated God, and get yourself off with laughter when all you did was create a straw man and gloat that your straw man is not real...and you don't want me to point out how stupid that stuff is, right? What am I supposed to say? It's stupid. It's mentally perverted labor of fools twisting themselves away from God into the fire of Hell.
Sure he does. I give equal possibility of existence to them both. It's just that most normal and rational people outgrow their belief in the Tooth Fairy. And which "god" are you speaking of? There are thousands that have been invented. With no more evidence for any one than another. This is why I refuse to capitalize the word.
God cannot be contained in your imagination like whatever you can imagine.
Sure he can. In fact, the only place he exists is in people's imagination. If you disagree, prove me wrong. Show us ONE thing that tells us he exists outside of your imagination. PLease.
Hey...I just thought of something pretty funny! I am gonna make a little word-play line on your bit about how we need to prove we have the right to exist outside of hell...........
"Can you prove that your god has any right to exist outside of your imagination?"
Oh...this is good. I think I am gonna do a debate on it. Thanks!
The tooth fairy is a little thing that you can fit in the corner of your imagination. God cannot be contained or limited by your imagination. The things you argue against are straw men and you pretend they are God when in reality they are only what you call god which is something like cement or your head.
If God only exists in peoples imaginations, then if you say the name "God" that means He exists in your imagination? So you can make Him exist by saying His name and make him nonexistent by calling him god which is a thing instead of addressing him by His name which is the name of God who created all things?
Sorry friend, your becoming boring......go on and entertain yourself
What you are doing in effect is standing in the position of needing to be in Hell and unable to get out of it before you will believe it is real. And God is going to give you the proof you need to believe it.......reluctantly He will give it to you, maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe one hundred years from now which is only a vapor that appears briefly and is gone....but you will get the proof you insist is impossible because you are asking for it by denying God's goodness to you now. You want reality to be void of anything which can be perceived as something good from God showing He is good by giving good things......and the only place you can really have that reality is where all good things are deprived from you in the fire of Hell. You go, and get the audience cheering for you as you plunge yourself into the fire. Sorry, I won't be cheering. You're show may get you an audience for a minute or three, but it's just a tragic comedy and the world is full of that stuff.
What you are referring to as god is something you can imagine, something that is not bigger than your imagination. That is not God. God cannot be limited by your imagination. You are avoiding God by denying He is bigger than and independent of your imagination. The name of God refers to the one you cannot contain in your imagination, and when you deny it is Him you are arguing against then everything you present as "god" is a straw man and is not God and you are arguing against your own created absurdity like a dog chasing it's own tail.
The reason you are doing this is because there is no wisdom, nor understanding, nor counsel against the LORD and in your heart you know this. In your mind you have set up a mental block to hide away from God, and in your imagination you create absurdities which are not God, you call your absurdities "god", then argue they are not real because they are only in your imagination. It seems vital for you feel uncontrolled by God, and that is why it's so difficult for you to spell His name correctly. If you give any honor to His name, you will be in effect acknowledging that you cannot escape His control......and that would mean you are on your way to Hell and need to be saved. You just can't believe that because you know your life would be changed forever and your comfortable with death so you'll settle for what you have......and you got it. Enjoy it while you can, friend, if that's the way you want to go out. I hate to be the bringer of bad news when I have good news if you will receive it, but if you keep going the way you are going you will wake up in Hell, executed in death with no more time to appeal for God's mercy which He provided for by taking your place in death as the Son of God, paid for your sins with His blood, and offers you forgiveness as He is risen from the dead and willing to be your life and keep you in eternal life now.
So you cannot capitalize the name of Darth Vader or Paul Bunyon of Babe the Blue Ox? But you can capitalize Thor and Zeus? Why is that? Are you afraid that by using proper English in reference to God, you might think He is God and you can't handle that idea because you want Him to leave you alone?
You see, you cannot argue against God. You can only argue against things which are not God to have proof that THEY are not God. That's a no brainer, it's intellectual dishonesty and laziness.
I capitalize those names Like Zeus and Thor since they are, well...names. That is, proper nouns. Thus they merit capitalization.
But god is only a simple noun and the label we give to a supernatural entity. And there are thousands of gods. All of them invented and all of them existing only in literature and mythology. Such as Hebrew Mythology, which is the Bible.
Again..."gods" is like: demons; vampires; werewolves; ghosts, et al.
Can you say that again in English? What are you trying to say here?
Please clarify what you are saying if my response does not address it properly.
You do not always put an article before a noun. A noun can be the first word in a sentence, such as "Cement is a noun and it is god." I suppose capitalization of the improper noun when it is the first word in a sentence would be the same as putting an article before it.
The point I am making is that atheism is dishonest, and because it is dishonest it bends the rules in grammar as well as in science, so things don't really mean when they say and don't really say what they mean but however the atheist says it is said by the atheist to be justified as long as the atheist can avoid acknowledging God rules over them.......and then one day the atheist surrenders to death in preference of surrendering to God, and realizes they lost their fight against God and won death and it's eternal in the lake of fire which is the second death.
Here again I'll clarify for you.........You do not have to put an article before a simple noun. In the following sentence from the Title OP, "Can you tell us how much of an impact god has played in your life?", God is misspelled as god, and the word "god" there could be change to an inanimate noun such as "cement", or "glue", or "air". I'm sure the person who originally posed the question, for the rude pageant girl who should have been thrown off the property after her offensive comment, was asking what impact God has played in the girl's life and would not ask such a stupid question as "what impact has cement played on your life" unless the questioner knew that the girl's life had been influenced by cement (like maybe she was a mafia atheist who ran the cement mixing business which buried Hoffa and made cement boots which she supervised deployment of in order to feed the fishes.) Then it would make sense to ask about cement's influence. I'm sure when the man asked about God's influence in her life, he was referring to God and not "god". Slappy misspelled the word and He knows it, he did it intentionally because there is no wisdom, nor understanding, nor counsel against God.
Zeus and Thor merit capitalization? What did they do to achieve such merit?
You using "god" as a simple noun to label a supernatural entity would be correct usage and spelling of the word. Again you prove my point that you are not arguing against God but rather creating a straw man which you call "god" which is a thing that is not God who created all things. So you are a dishonest atheist. An honest atheist admits that the only God he really cares about negating is the One who would rule over the atheist. So you say "no god and not even God will rule over me?". You cannot say that, because if you say God will not rule over you, you are admitting your rebellion and calling out your doom because you know you cannot rebel against God and win.
Atheists are really mental midgets because they have stopped thinking and fell asleep using a few pet rhetorical statements to hide behind so they can block out God in order to get some sleep.
When a priest of atheism says, I don't believe in any "gods" and I go one "god" further in that belief, that atheist is still being dishonest by avoiding admitting the God they want to get rid of is the God who created all things. Until an atheist can say "God is the only true deity, and I deny He exists", they are being dishonest......and if they do say "God is the only true deity, and I deny He exists" they are still being dishonest with themselves because by saying "God is the only true deity..."they admit He is there.
Anything you call a deity which is not God is a false deity and is not divine. Only God is divine, He is the only true deity, and there is no wisdom, nor counsel, nor understanding against God and that is why atheism is intellectually lazy and dishonest in avoiding arguing against God. Atheistic thought patterns are mental exercise of fools, then they get themselves off with an endorphin rush of LOL.
You do not always put an article before a noun. A noun can be the first word in a sentence, such as "Cement is a noun and it is god." I suppose capitalization of the improper noun when it is the first word in a sentence would be the same as putting an article before it.
The point I am making is that atheism is dishonest, and because it is dishonest it bends the rules in grammar as well as in science, so things don't really mean when they say and don't really say what they mean but however the atheist says it is said by the atheist to be justified as long as the atheist can avoid acknowledging God rules over them.......and then one day the atheist surrenders to death in preference of surrendering to God, and realizes they lost their fight against God and won death and it's eternal in the lake of fire which is the second death.
When the man asked the question, he was asking what impact God had on the girls life. You are not quoting the man correctly when you say he asked what impact god had on the girls life. That would be like saying "what impact did cement have on your life"
The girl's response was totally out of order, uncalled for, and should have disqualified her for poor character. She could have said, "to me, God is like the Keebler Elves so I cannot say He has had any impact on my life". That would be acceptable as she would be saying in effect, "I do not believe in God, I recognize that you do." Atheism is an insult to God and atheists just can't help but to insult anybody who believes in God......and when it's done in my house, I'm going to give the evil doer the boot maybe with no warning and maybe after one warning. In a pageant, no such warning is required to disqualify a contestant.
Is there a place in the speed of light where time stands still?
Is God known as Light?
Does He give Eternal Life?
Did anyone writing the Bible understand the speed of light, or was that a scientific realization of modern day?
Then how or why would light and eternal life and Omnipresence meaning every where at once and Omniscience, knowing all things past present and future, why do you think light and these characteristics of the person who IS Light would somehow appear together, as characteristics found in God, who is The Light?
Again did these ancient writers understand the science of Light?
It is now seen why you don't have the set of nuts to post about the Muslim faith. You are scared because you are surrounded by those RagHeads.
By 2007 Metro Detroit, if defined as Wayne, Oakland, Macomb, and Washtenaw counties had the United States's largest Arab American population, larger than that of Greater Los Angeles if that region was defined as Los Angeles, Orange, and Ventura counties. As of that year Arab Americans are one of the largest immigrant groups into Southeastern Michigan. As of 2000 the majority of Metro Detroit's Arabs are Lebanese, Palestinian, Yemeni, and Iraqi.According to Jen’nan Ghazal Read of the U.S. Census Bureau, as of 2000, in the Wayne-Oakland-Macomb-Washtenaw region there were 96,363 persons of Arab ancestry. As of 2000 there were 92,122 people of Arab ancestry in Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb counties, making up 79.2% of Michigan's people of Arab ancestry.
I have posted anti-Muslim rants many times here in CD. Feel free to scroll through my Watetrfall to check, if you do not believe me.
I am certainly not going to take the effort to do it myself and then paste them for you. As I care very very little what you think about me or believe me to be.
Led by a newspaper publisher, Muslim activists will call for putting limits on American free speech at a Dearborn rally this evening. You can’t make this stuff up.
Nearly a decade after Dearborn’s streets celebrated America for bringing down Saddam Hussein and opening a door to democracy in the Mideast, the same city will be the epicenter today of calls to squelch free speech. Protesting the film, “Innocence of Muslims,” that has sparked protests in the Mideast, rally organizer Tarek Baydoun says that so-called blasphemy laws are necessary to prevent speech that hurts the “the religious feelings of Muslims.”
You do have a point there...the Muslims are getting themselves stirred up like a hornets nest and they are going to come out stinging sooner or later, it's what they do, the trickle down effect from jihadists who rule over Islam in all its sects. Slappy has made it pretty clear how anybody can locate him. If he's making too many anti-Islam comments, the target on his college gets bigger....and the colleges are falling in line with the Muslims so they will be telling Slappy to chill on the Muslim comments as well. Slappy has to conform to his culture to have the approval of the atheistic/evolutionary crowd, his career plans depend on it.
I say that it is the quintessentially inane response that would excite only the amusement of those with poor quality humour who feel the need massage their atheism by ironically indulging in the very haughtiness they castigate their Christian counterparts for. Hardly indicative of a true intellectual, really.
I say that it is the quintessentially inane response that would excite only the amusement of those with poor quality humour who feel the need massage their atheism by ironically indulging in the very haughtiness they castigate their Christian counterparts for. Hardly indicative of a true intellectual, really.
Chuckle...., you won't get many as many laughs as Big Bird, but, that's because , as Voltaire said many years ago, "God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." (Sound more like George Carlin).
You can say that again, and I'll add that for her rudeness she should have been immediately escorted off the property with all of her belongings. She could have just said "I don't believe in God so I can't say that He has done anything for me". That would have been respectable and acceptable and not offensive. By comparing God to Big Bird and the Keebler elves, she insulted every person on the planet who believes in God. Doing that on her own property is her own business, but when she is acting that way in a place supposedly rules by Christians, it would be appropriate to start her on her way out the door before she could draw another breath in her gloating denying God gives her the air to breathe.
In America, Christians in recent decades have pulled put back from cultural influence and this blasphemous disrespect is now the norm in public places. Perversion dominates our culture now, and the moral backbone of America which is the bastion of freedom in the world is crumbling...and while I would like to blame the evolutionists and atheists as all they care about is being able to resist those who would criticized their sin, their perversion, their arrogance; the blame really lies with Christians for not trusting in the Lord enough to be strong to resist spiritual wickedness in high places.
You ever going to grow a set and make a post about Muslims and their faith there Democrat. Is it because you Democrats support Muslims and their faith ?
City in Michigan First to Fully Implement Sharia Law
In a surprise weekend vote, the city council of Dearborn, Michigan voted 4-3 to became the first US city to officially implement all aspects of Sharia Law. The tough new law, slated to go into effect January 1st, addresses secular law including crime, politics and economics as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, fasting, prayer, diet and hygiene.
The new law could see citizens stoned for adultery or having a limb amputated for theft. Lesser offenses, such as drinking alcohol or abortion, could result in flogging and/or caning. In addition, the law imposes harsh laws with regards to women and allows for child marriage.
Some in town seem to welcome the new legislation while others have denounced the move as “abhorrent”, a threat to freedom and incompatible with the Constitution. When asked by National Report about the need for such a law, local resident Jeremy Ahmed stated:
“It is because of our need that Allah the Almighty, in all his generosity, has created laws for us, so that we can utilize them to obtain justice. We hope to see other cities taking this action in the face of the governments inaction of passing such legislation”.
Make your post about the Religion of Islam boy if you got the nuts.
I support the truth. You can color it all you want but you posted something foolish from a satire site and tried to write it off as truth, then you got called on it.
Oh my god you crack me up. Honestly I'm beginning to believe that you really are a democrat posting ridiculously stupid stuff as a republican, or whatever you are, in an effort to drive people away from the lunacy of the party you are pretending to represent. It's a brilliant plan really. Good job.
All you got is Snopes and the Huffington Post and they got what to say it's a satire site. How would they know that Sharia Law is not in Michigan ? Any of them live there ?
Do you? Seriously try looking up the press release that the City of Dearborn posted. Oh but you probably won't believe that because...you know....they aren't The National Report.
Sweet Jesus, you actually might be the dumbest person on this website. Any and every argument you make will be null since you pick your info off of satire sites.
I think we face many problems of getting to the bottom of truth is hiding from truth, the other is choice of lies over truth, another is being mislead by lies by not knowing how to disect views to know the bottom line real issues by use of generalizations, and another is exploiting others by appealing to problems without clearly weighing strategies for the most effective solutions.
And its in everything from every special interest, to every persuasion, including faith.
No one knows how to disect an issue view opinion doctrine or belief for themselves.
They are either not aware, or want to accept "convenient truths" they "feel" they agree with, or they don't know what they should ask or confirm before accepting something as true, or they are just lazily riding whatever river they happened to come upon!
National Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within National Report are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental. Advice given is NOT to be construed as professional. If you are in need of professional help, please consult a professional. National Report is not intended for children under the age of 18.
The website where you get your information says that all of their stories are fiction. Your source for information tells you that they are writing fake news stories for entertainment. I don't have to know anything that is going on in Detroit to know that fiction isn't real.
I'm pretty sure the "Dearborn Implements Sharia Law" is a hoax. You might want to double check on that one.
It would violate State Law, the State of Michigan won't allow it. I think it's a hoax, designed to try to wake people up to the dangers of spreading Islam.
Led by a newspaper publisher, Muslim activists will call for putting limits on American free speech at a Dearborn rally this evening. You can’t make this stuff up.
Nearly a decade after Dearborn’s streets celebrated America for bringing down Saddam Hussein and opening a door to democracy in the Mideast, the same city will be the epicenter today of calls to squelch free speech. Protesting the film, “Innocence of Muslims,” that has sparked protests in the Mideast, rally organizer Tarek Baydoun says that so-called blasphemy laws are necessary to prevent speech that hurts the “the religious feelings of Muslims.”
You support Muslims there Detroit boy ? They want to attack your 1st Amendment Right is that why you are scared ?
Our resident bigot once agin insults Christians while saying nothing against Islam.
Lets see, Isis kills thousands in the name of Islam while Christianity says to love thy enemy, and what does this bigot CONSTANTLY DO? Insult Christians!
What a dysfunctional fool!
What is it about Democrats that they constantly rail against Christians while Muslims are murdering people.
Must be as the Bible says. The Godless don't worry about false religions, they will only fight against the one true faith.
Lets see, Isis kills thousands in the name of Islam while Christianity says to love thy enemy, and what does this bigot CONSTANTLY DO? Insult Christians!
When people kill in the name of Christians, you don't think those people are Christian. When people support abortion and say they are Christians, you don't think those people are Christians. Whenever anyone does anything that doesn't fit your view of what Christianity should be, you don't think those people are Christian. But when a group of people who know almost nothing of the Muslim faith create a terrorist organization and you think that means you need to give special attention to all Muslims, you are beyond hypocritical.
Did you ever hear of apples to apples, or equal weight of measure?
Jesus said straight is the gate and narrow is the way.
Many people that say they are Christians are not.
Jesus spent a lot of time teaching the difference, and in the end time judgment goes first to those who say they are His but are not, false teachers most harshly, and the following blind also.
So since it is one of the most hammered teaching by Jesus to disciples, then that should be a no brainer, the tricky part is when your not one of His and seeing the difference.
So you have to try to see the fruit, and understand the differences. But the ones on the highway are not walking the narrow road. The narrow road is "Christianity"
All others are lost, and going the wrong way. There is only one way! And Jesus tells many examples where He says many Woll come on that day, and they will even call me Lord, and I will say depart I didn't know you!
FromWithin, I was not disputing that point. My point is that you refuse to extend that same logic to Islam. Using your logic, the members of ISIS are not Islamic.
You are being very deceptive. ISIS knows Islam very well. They are taking it literally when it says to kill those who don't believe.
The so called moderate Muslims REFUSE to take a serious stand aginst ISIS. This is because deep down they know what the Quran says. There were Muslims cheering after 911 and they were not terrorists.
The wachos who kill in the name of Christianity are very few and no one even pays attention to them because we hardly ever see a person kill in this nation in the name of Christianity!
How many killers yell out Jesus Christ when they kill someone? NO ONE!
These radical islamic terrorists kill in the name of Islam ALL THE TIME! They kill thousands and thousands. They yell out Allah Akbar when they kill.
SPARE ME A FEW WACHOS WHO DO SO IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY. I have not seen any in my entire lifetime.
If you won't read the link, from a Christian site, let me summarize. 70% of ISIS members have at best a basic knowledge of Islam. They aren't there because of their devout religious beliefs. Or if they are, those religious beliefs aren't Islam.
They are taking it literally when it says to kill those who don't believe.
The Old Testament says that if a prophet comes to your town and preaches something other than Judaism, they must be stoned. And yet, if, in today's society, someone did this, I wouldn't consider them to be following the ideals of Judaism. Would you?
Have you read the Qaran? Have you read the Torah?
The so called moderate Muslims REFUSE to take a serious stand aginst ISIS.
That's just fucking false. False false false false and false. You say it again and again and it doesn't make it true. A clear majority of Muslims across the world reject ISIS and it's ideals, and view it as nothing more than a bastardization of their religion. And they talk about it all the fucking time. The fact that you aren't listening is a you problem, not theirs.
There were Muslims cheering after 911 and they were not terrorists.
Got any proof? Also, if they were, that has nothing to do with them being Muslim. Nothing in Islam says that killing Americans means you should celebrate.
The wachos who kill in the name of Christianity are very few and no one even pays attention to them because we hardly ever see a person kill in this nation in the name of Christianity!
And if they did, that wouldn't say anything bad about Christianity. If someone does something bad in the name of a religion, it speaks to the person, not the religion.
How many killers yell out Jesus Christ when they kill someone? NO ONE!
Of course there are plenty that do. But again, that says nothing about Christianity.
These radical islamic terrorists kill in the name of Islam ALL THE TIME!
So what?
SPARE ME A FEW WACHOS WHO DO SO IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY. I have not seen any in my entire lifetime.
What God did in my life was inspire my brother. I watched him highly restrict and block his kids' access to all things not God (TV, music, friends, school, whatever), and then drag them many many times to foreign nations for missionary work (medical work, actually, though he'll admit he's really there to push Christianity). Now that they're all adults they all keep him at arms length and are either withdrawn or hostile. The daughter in town with her own kids limits his access to his grand kids. His oldest son went wild in college and flunked out (found freedom after years of oppression and then lost self control) and now has very little relationship with him. His youngest son is the most withdrawn (and may be in the closet). And his youngest daughter went through an extended period of cutting herself though she's over that now. Probably the only daughter who talks religion the way he does is the one living about a 7 hour drive away and i doubt that's accidental.
We were all raised Catholic and he used to be as Catholic as the Pope, but when the Catholic church wouldn't sponsor him to travel to do missionary work he switched to some Protestant branch which does and then started telling the rest of us we'd go to hell unless we switched, too. (But personally, I bet he'd have turned Jewish even if it turned out the Jews were the ones arranging missionary trips.)
So that's what God has done within my life. Created an alienated family and a brother who reminds the rest of us every once a while why he will be saved and the rest of us won't. Thanks God.
So it's God's fault that you are not saved? It's God's fault you are bitter toward Him? He has not done enough for you to be thankful to Him?
You are on your way to Hell, and you do need to be saved. I don't know if your brother is saved or not, but it does sound like he got saved......and Jesus said He would cause divisions in families. When a person from a family where none of them are saved and all of them are religious or "found freedom after years of oppression and then lost self control" meets the Savior in reality and gets saved, it caused a separation from lost people. Everybody is bound by the consequences of their own sin, if they won't renounce their sin they won't get out of it. The family members you are talking about need to take responsibility for their own sins. And you need to take responsibility for your own sins. I'm sure you said and did things to harden whatever alienation you feel exists between you and family members.
Of course not. It's the apostles' fault for spinning fantastic tales and warnings decades after Jesus' death which now in the modern day has led to 10,000+ branches of Christianity disagreeing on the what the key message is and how to live their lives. And it's the fault of literal interpretation of the Bible by people like yourself which keeps reving up believers like my brother to the point they're ready to do harm to their own lives and the lives of others all in the name of God. If people just found the good things and accepted them in the context of this is what ancient human peoples said when they were inspired by God it would do away with a whole lot of the modern nonsense of you must this or you must not that.
I'm actually not bitter. i still love my brother and we still talk. But I'm not going to follow in his footsteps and alienate my entire family.
Your choice of refusing to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ is your own fault, and if you wake up in Hell it is your own fault. Trying to blame God or other people won't get you out of eternal death in the lake of fire. You might want to have a big glass of wine and try to forget yourself.
No. You're ignoring the fact there are 10,000+ different groups with different interpretations of the Bible and Christ's teachings and instead just trying to spin it that this is me rejecting something obvious. Nope.
You're ignoring the fact that you have sinned against God and cannot stand in His presence. You're ignoring the fact that as a sinner you deserve to die, and if God were to allow all of the trials of Job to fall on you today it would be less than you deserve. You are ignoring the fact that you deserve to burn in Hell.
Oh, you didn't say before that your brother is dangerous to himself and to others. I'm sorry to hear that. You need to contact police of mental health authorities and get your brother locked up for a while so they can subdue him with meds and then maybe it will be safe for him to be around people without supervision.
Sorry, I didn't know your brother is psycho. Now I think I understand better why you have that glass of wine in your hand all the time...it helps you to forget the danger your brother poses
So you are the spokesman for your family, the spokesman for your brother, the spokesman for everybody on this site....who else are you the spokesman for?
Nope, they can speak for themselves. They just need to come out here on the debate web and do it. I'm not stopping them.
It's a debate website and I have my right to speak. And that I did.
Nothing I said is wrong. Unlike my my frequent rivals on this site I don't resort to cheap theatrics, rants and smears, and then banning to silence my opposition. Come one and come all. Let's talk it out.
You don't have the right to speak. If you are allowed to speak, it's a privilege. Time is a gift we do not deserve. Reality 101 son. You might want to have a glass of wine and try to forget it.
And yet I keep speaking. Which means your God has not agreed with silencing me yet. Could it be he sent me and others like me here to try to knock some sense into you? Hmm?
God will not silence you. God will nor force you to do anything. If you end up in Hell, you get their by your own choice, and in Hell you will be able to say anything you want. The only exception to this will be when at the name of Jesus, against the will of all in Hell, their knees will bow and their tongues confess to the glory of God the Father that Jesus Christ is Lord. Like it or not, you will give God the honor He is due for creating you, even if he has to pull it out of you in the fire of Hell. That is the only time God will force you to do anything. Until then, you in the name of Hell can do anything you want as long as you are not in Hell.
Yeah right. The first time you posted a response to me it was nothing but insults, theatrics, making a big show of your stinking self and your stinking attitudes.....ranting and smearing me as best you could and you have never stopped. You have a problem, bitterness is eating you up, no wonder you try to slosh yourself out with wine...
Let's talk it out....yeah, right. There is no "talking it out" with a guy who wants to stomp you into the ground. You're just a punk. Trashing your brother, disgracing your mother by trashing your brother, bitter against God and hating me for saying God loves you while I point out the truth of your sin which you love more than life because you use it to stroke your own ego in order to pacify yourself in your dying.
Nope. The first time I responded to you I made valid points about your debate being completely rigged. Absolutely valid. In fact you demonstrate all the time that you continue to do both that, both by phrasing the two voting choices to favor your side, and by blocking people early and then continuing to pile on the preaching yourself long after they can no longer directly respond.
No one buys your rationale for your bans. No one buys that I'm a punk either.
You're just a punk to me, and now I know why...it's because you have a chip on your shoulder for your brother. I also understand why you are a wino...you are trying to force yourself to relax in your confusion.
Nope, not a wino, just something in life I appreciate. Also not with a chip on my shoulder about my brother. Had the debate not asked I wouldn't have thought to bring it up. We've debated religion many times before without me bringing it up.
I'm not a stereotype. You won't succeed in painting me with a broad label.
It is not likely and is not usual - as a matter of fact it is HIGHLY unlikely and EXTREMELY unusual!!
Here is part of the historical event of Steven's Martyrdom
Notice his stoners coats were laid at Saul's feet.
Saul after murdering Christiand, has an unusual transformation and personally experienced an encounter with the Risen Jesus.
Saul goes from killing them to the greatest winner of souls. And by those actions fullfills PROPHESY!! And his dramatic conversion pushes the gospel out from his own countrymen to Gentiles, (other Nation other than Israel) and is well know even from those he was in league with while severely persecuting Christians.
Matt 24
14“This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Isaiah 11
10 "And in that day there shall be a Root of Jesse, who shall stand as a banner to the people; for the Gentiles shall seek Him, and His resting place shall be glorious."
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So like it, or not this IS reasonable evidence, and along with 2000 prophesies that have already been fulfilled in detail!
With only 500 to go, and some of those are in process!
Evidence FOR GOD is mounting!!!
Stephen was martyred as murders placed their coats at Saul's feet.
SAUL Later became PAUL, and went on to become a valiant Appostle of the faith he was a murderer in war against Christians!
What changed?
Acts 7
51 “You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did. 52 Which one of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? They killed those who had previously announced the coming of the Righteous One, whose betrayers and murderers you have now become; 53 you who received the law as ordained by angels, and yet did not keep it.”
54 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the quick, and they began gnashing their teeth at him. 55 But being full of the Holy Spirit, he gazed intently into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God; 56 and he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened up and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.” 57 But they cried out with a loud voice, and covered their ears and rushed at him with one impulse. 58 When they had driven him out of the city, they began stoning him; and the witnesses laid aside their robes at the feet of a young man named Saul. 59 They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” 60 Then falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” Having said this, he fell asleep.
I don't really care if I sound like your brother, all I care is that the things I say are in line with the word of God, you are dead in your sins and cannot see life so of course the way I talk is an offense to you. The preaching of the cross is foolishness to them that perish. You need to be saved from Hell. If your brother says the same thing, good for him because it would show he cares about you in your lost condition.
All you are doing is trying to avoid admitting that you are guilty in the sight of God and worthy of Hell. Blaming God or blaming other people won't get you off the hook of your own guilt.
You are an odd one, I'll give you that much........Catholicism does produce a lot of weirdos and all kinds of atheists, that's for sure. You're a great example of Catholic upbringing. You might want to have a glass of wine now
The odd one? There are 1.2 billion Catholics in this world and though there are many intense in their beliefs there are quite a few like myself, especially in the USA, willing to think and speak freely. Meanwhile there are about 600 million defined loosely in the type of Evangelical beliefs and so far every one of them I've run into on these debate sites is convinced only themselves and a handful of others got it right enough to not be brutally tortured for eternity in hell.
I will indeed have a glass of wine, tonight, and not because I'm odd. Quite the opposite. Because I am normal.
What's NOT normal is believing that the vast majority of people to walk this planet are doomed to eternal torture just because they're not part of your own little elite club of interpretation of life's rules.
The majority of people will end up in Hell because they love their sin more than life. They will not seek God's mercy and they will not find it in Hell. That's their own fault, and it looks like you will be there in that number.
I have an uncle and cousin, Uncle Mike and his son my cousin Mike with his family, they lived next door to their each other, for 30 years, they didn't talk for about 15 of those years.
Is the problem Italians? Or is that a human nature condition that exist regardless if Italians are to blame or exist?
I don't think I can define Italians by these select Italians.
having just joined this site i was hopping to find some well structured arguments to and for topics that i find interesting.i wanted to learn from different people and hear their opinions however reading through most of the posts so far it worries me to read that some of the people on here i dare say come across as extremists.
i keep seeing comment after comment on being dammed to hell for your sins, being an atheist myself i wanted views that challenged my own and gave me some thing to think about instead i find people claiming to be religious not acting in a very religious way, strengthening my own views further.
for myself atheism came about because i always asked questions about the world and the universe and having gone to a religious school i did not like the answers they gave me, such as god made the world and he did it in seven days i would again ask how did he do that and i would be told because he is all powerful and i would continue to ask why to the point where my teachers could not answer me and would become frustrated.
however when i went to a science class it was completely different, i would ask why and how all the time and the science teachers eyes would light up because he would get to explain why this happened to the point where we got to one he could not answer but he wouldn't be disgruntled he would just say we don't know yet and that idea that i can be the one to discover things that are yet unknown to all of human kind just ignited my curiosity.
You're an extremist, atheism is an extreme and if you deny you are an extremist you are a liar. If you want to be in a place where your extreme ideas and philosophies are discussed and promoted while dissenting opinions are censored, you need to hang out at public schools.
Your "science" teachers who are promoting big bang and evolution are teaching science fiction. Their beliefs dictate what their "science" must be in agreement with, and their method is to bend all data and practice to make it fit their belief, forever saying "we don't know yet", meaning "we believe and cannot entertain the idea that we are wrong, so we keep going forward". Those "we don't know yet" questions will never be answered because they are asking the questions from an erroneous starting point and refusing to admit error. It's not science, it's a belief system and you have bought into it like a sucker.
Science comes with proof,And how ironically you said that science is a belief system,I mean I had a good laugh for 10 seconds,You don't have to believe in what science tells you because it gives you answer of every "how" and "why"unlike you I don't have to have faith That there is God.You are from the vast majority of retards who without question "believes" that there is an Invisible man in the sky who created the Universe,but unlike you Science questions and is ready to accept any improbable answer with proof,And Sir with all due respect science never refuse to admit error its just the other way around.
I don't even have to read your stuff to know you are talking about pseudo-science.
Are you telling me your so-called science has proof that nothing turned into everything in the big bang with no cause as nothing was there to cause it?
That garbage is not science, evolution is not science. If you believe that stuff, you are insane.
I'm honestly not surprised about the whole making fun of Christianity. It's something that will continue to happen as time progresses, and I didn't even think it was funny in the first place. I would have said something better than what they said.
Heyyy slapshot I'm coming to Detroit for mhacks 8 hosted by umich I'll see u there right? We'll debate in person. It'll be awkward af especially cuz u believe the NFL is genuine (jk)
I know.. I'll argue using inappropriate sesquipedalians that have nothing to do with the debate topic and that way, with my overwhelming vocab I'll utterly destroy them :)
Nope,people just think you're a prick with a thesaurus. I mean, no one talks like that in real life, no matter how smart.I'm a relative dumbass, but as someone who's father is in MENSA I can verify, you just sound like an arse,chum.
And I know, before you point out "ooh personal attacks because he can't think of any gripping arguments pertaining to the matter" well, half half. I mean, I have had religious debates one too many times to know the stubbornness of people like you so I don't bother, if you want to wallow in your idiocy then that's OK by me. This is the internet after all :) The other half being, I'm just a very bitter person and I don't like upstarts :D :D
Too much time spent on bestgore has driven my standards insanely high when it comes to this kinda shit. C'mon, where are the jokes that trigger people and shit. Oh wait, even this lame-ass joke managed to butt-hurt some people.
Oh dear :S. Right, just to offer a few clarifications to the overwhelming errors you have made about me:
Firstly, your gender-specific reference to me (“dude”) is incorrect. When responding to (or in your case sniping at) someone it is recommended to glance at their site profile to ensure you are actually using the appropriate pronouns amongst other terms. This really does not consume too much of anyone’s precious time. Failure to do this only showcases laziness and had you deigned to do this you would have noted that I am female and respond accordingly.
Secondly, unless you want to spend time dissecting all of my dialogue with various debaters, you have zero knowledge of how we interact or their perception of me…unless, you are professing to be a mind reader. That would be an altogether arrogant assumption.
Thirdly, this is compounded by you also presuming to know how I converse offline outside of this forum. I have an extensive vocabulary, as the average intellectual does. Never once have I been informed by others, in reality or online, that they feel this is a barrier to our discussions, ergo it should be of no concern to you. That you cannot comprehend this is no fault of mine.
Lastly, this diatribe of yours is in no direct response to my original post (which incidentally had everything to do with the debate topic). If you honestly have an issue with how I conduct myself in debates then you address my post to challenge me directly as I have done to you rather than venturing down the cowardly route of griping like a child in a separate post. You claim you are not bothered by "people like me", yet your post demonstrates otherwise.
…..So there we have it. You have made an erroneous assessment of my character on the basis of a single statement. I did not know you prior to this as I had not previously spoken with you, but examining your post presents the profile of a lazy, arrogant, bitter coward. I have had debates with non-religious people many times, but I know and believe better than to malign every single member belonging to that category ahead of conversing with them – a principle you evidently lack.
Seriously. Do step down from your horse... before it bucks.
"Dude" wasn't gender specific you hobo,jeez... Also, were the errors I made about you, really.. reallllly honestly overwhelming ? No, they weren't. I won't read the rest of what you've written because it's going to be filled with pomposity like that, you pretentious klutz.
I couldn't help it,I read more... So you call me cowardly, lazy, arrogant etc.. Then call me out on trying to get a perception of you? Ahahaha you idiot.
Also my "diatribe" did not indeed have much to do with your shitposting. I already explained that, I can't really be bothered to argue with you. Also my judgement was entirely correct,as you have so fabulously demonstrated, thanks :)
Oh, step down from my horse?You mistake me forsomeone who is trying to better you? I don't need to better you or prove I have the bigger hypothetical dick. I just find it fun is all.
Ahh but you're fun to talk to. For a while I mean, there's only so much "It's not my fault I'm more intelligent than you" I can take I mean, if it's true, don't be a dick about it xD I know I offer myself on this site but have some respect for my fragile/frail intellect. Ooh I do look forward to whatever witty comment you make next.
Did I miss out on any of your points? Sorry if I did I'm also watching youtube while typing so.. :3
Wow. I suggest you look up the definition of the word ‘dude’.
The fact remains that you were denigrating my character and making sweeping statements without prior knowledge or interaction with me to corroborate them. My OP did not concern you, but since yours so bizarrely concerned me I saw fit to respond and correct you. My conclusions of you were simply a by-product of this.
You claim you could not be bothered to argue with me, but to repeat an aforementioned point you certainly seemed pricked by my presence enough to reference me at random. Nevertheless, replying to me directly would have made your efforts look a little less asinine.
This is also going to be my final response to you since it is evident after reading your following post that you are attempting to goad me into some profane slanging match and I have no interest in investing any further effort into that nonsense. I have no respect for such behaviour and prefer to engage in discussions of actual substance with those more deserving of the regard. You have merely reinforced rather than refuted the negative impression you conveyed to me in your first post, so thanks for that – saves me anymore waste of valuable time.
Slanging match? I mean I have nothing against profanities, but I'm not trying to make you do anything aha, keep being you xD
Also I've been on this site for years, I've had plenty of time enough to make myself look "asinine" (bit of an over reaction I think..) to the people who's opinions matter to me :)
Bottom line, I gave up trying to REALLY debate people long ago. I'm a much more half-assed version of my self. I have more important things to worry about (as I'm sure you do too) than bigging up my ego by trying to outsmart some person on the internet. Just a little agitation is all I'm after, thank's for providing :P
Wait a second.. "Saves me any more waste of valuable time" You consider arguing with people on the internet "valuable time" Oh shit.. I don't know if you meant that,or if it was just a throwaway phrase. I hope the latter otherwise, Jesus.. Ahahaha I mean that would be hilarious to me is all. Valuable time Oh sweet lord :D :D :D
The problem is that you do not understand how God works. If you wanted a bicycle, like I did when I was a kid, you would probably pray for it because you do not know any better. That's not how God works. God paid for your sins with His blood. So..., if you want a bicycle you are supposed to steal it because God helps those who help themselves and then you pray for forgiveness. I hope this clarifies things for you ;)
If he exists, he is gutless. Or cruel, or maybe even evil. Given the unimaginable amount of violence and cruelty he has allowed during this planet's history.
Or maybe he IS good, but impotent. that is, simply unable to prevent or even curtail evil and violence.
Or...and this is my favorite option and by far the most likely: he simply does. not. EXIST.
Whichever of those scenarios is true, the question is indeed begged: Why Worship him?
From Psalm 100:5 For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.
Psalm 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
I could easily pull up 100 Bible references which say God is good.
Slappy's argument is basically against God being good. If God is not good, He is no good and cannot be God. It's not a paradox, it's an absurdity. The thing he is arguing against is a thing which is not good and is limited by time. God is good and is not limited by time, Slappy is presenting another straw man argument which is not an argument against God. Why atheists promote it as if it is a strong argument is a joke. The only person an atheist really fools with that stuff is himself.
You think I have not heard that stuff before? I've studied the Bible for decades, two years of Christian college in which disciplined study of all of the arguments and correct answers to those arguments was required for credit before the internet was invented, before even a punk like you could easily question the accuracy of the things you are told to accept as true.
You're just another intellectually lazy PUNK who does not have the brains to seek out truth for yourself so you take regurgitated garbage and say "this is good for me!" and build yourself a big stinking pile of it and stand there saying "I'm the king of the Hill".
Listen you shut up punk, I've seen people spit out their teeth after telling somebody to shut up ( in different words).
You need to learn a lesson and it's easier to learn by applying yourself intellectually than by taking a trip to the dentist. Keep telling people how smart you are and telling them to shut up and you'll be making a trip to the dentist sooner or later if you don't wake up in Hell first. Apply yourself to learning and wisdom will preserve you.
Now FYI, Punk, If you think the Old Testament is not about Jesus Christ, once again you prove you know nothing about the Bible beyond the garbage spread by perverts who hate God and love their sin. After Jesus rose from the dead and the disciples were beginning to fully realize who He was and what He was teaching before he was crucified, Jesus showed them in the Old Testament the things that spoke of Him. It's all about Jesus Christ from Genesis through the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
You're an uneducated PUNK who got a big head pumped up by perverts, that's all you are and you need to be saved from your sin or you will wake up in Hell. When you show signs of being able to learn, I'll stop calling you a punk but for now you're just a punk.
if you are here by right and God wants it to stay that way, why are you dying? It seems like God does not want you to stay here, and you have no choice in the matter, you cannot stay here. Are you losing your right to be here?
If you can loose your right, how was it a right in the first place? Was it really a right?
Prove you are dying? How much time will you give me to prove you are dying? Can you guarantee that time, so you won't die before I can prove you are dying?
Rights are gained or lost? how did you gain the right to be here?
If God wants you here, doesn't that me it's his right to have you here, and wouldn't that also mean He has the right to take you out of here in any way at any time without your permission or approval, and wouldn't that mean you do not have the right to be here and being here is a privilege which you cannot hold by right? If you have the right to be here, why can't you stay here?
Why does God want you here, and why is God making you leave here? Did you do something wrong so you can't stay here?
Well, two days have come and gone and I am still here. I am not dying. I gave you sufficient time to prove otherwise (considering it was a blind statement about a stranger).
I don't know why people think that rights are impossible to lose or suspend. They can be infringed upon, suspended, forfeiting, and outright taken away. It doesn't take God to do this. God's ability to do this has no bearing on whether or not the right exists in the first place. Your misunderstanding of the philosophy of rights explains a lot about your opinion of where people deserve to be.
If you are not dying, why is your time being counted down to zero? Try telling God you have the right to live, and forget the tick tock of the clock as it's counting down to zero.
If you have the right to live, then you cannot die. You don't have the right to live. You're only fooling yourself if you think you have the right to live. It does take God to get you out of death. Tick tock, tick tock......a little closer to zero and you'll see how much right you have to live..........zero.
Whose counting my time? Not God. Not me. Just you. Your count doesn't count.
If you have the right to live, then you cannot die. You don't have the right to live
Think of how foolish this notion of rights really is. Do you have the right to your car? If you have the right to your car, then it cannot be taken from you.
I can steal your car though. By your logic, that makes me God. It's nonsense.
Hey stupid. You can't ban me here. It's not your debate. You'll have to face the failure of your faulty reasoning. There's no lazy banning for you here.
I'll refer you to the other thread wherein we are discussing this issue. The thread right above where you don't understand how rights work and cannot prove assertions of my demise.
Hey stupid. You can't ban me here. It's not your debate. You'll have to face the failure of your faulty reasoning. There's no lazy banning for you here.
You think that because you are breathing air, you have the right to live? You think living is a right and not a gift or a privilege. Life is a gift, I'm using simple English with no need of stretching definitions of words like you do to fit your twisted angry logic.
I'm not angry, you're just dim. If God gave me a car, that car would be a gift. Also I would have a right to that car. Even though I have a right to the car that God gave me, someone could come and take it from me.
The simplicity of this concept and of my language will not be sufficient to convince you. That's your issue. It doesn't anger me.
You're angry. You're angry because I'm standing on truth and it goes against you because of your pride. You're angry at God because He won't let you live and you are angry at me because I'm telling you the truth.
If you would quit being angry enough to listen, you might realize that God is being good to you while you try to trash Him and He is trying to get you to see that He loves you so much He died for you and paid your price so you don't have to pay and can be forgiven by Him in His resurrection. He died for your sins, rose to forgive and justify all who believe on Him.
You will reject His love, won't you? and why???? because you can't get over your anger.
It would be an interesting thing if you ever did say something true.
I have never spoken against God, only you and your screwy ideas about God.
You simply make assertions. You assert that I am angry because that's what you say about people who argue with you. You make claims about hell because you don't understand rights. You back up your arguments by repeating them. You never listen to anything that people say to you but you demand that others listen to you. You fail to realize that people have listened to you and understand your message and recognize how batshit wrong you are. It's not anger, it's understanding.
If you have a right to a car, why can't you take it with you when you leave this world? That car is a gift, you already agreed on that point which shows there may be hope for you as recognizing that the car is a gift is recognizing that God is the giver of good things. The car is a gift to be used temporarily and then you have to let it go. It's a privilege for you to be able to have a car, not a right. It's the same if you have children. They are an heritage from the Lord, a privilege to have, and not a right. God can give them, and He can take them away. They are not your right. This is simple logic, plain English, no need to twist or stretch definitions of simple words.
Nobody has the right to steal your car. That would be violating the Law. It would be a crime. If the criminal is driving your car after stealing it, the criminal gained that privilege by committing a crime and is a criminal in violation of the Law. The car was not given to him, he stole it. His ability to steal the car and his ability to drive the car are gifts, but not rights.
The only thing in this world you really have the right to is the right to die because the Law requires your death. You do not have the right to own a car, you do not have the right to be in good health, you do not have the right to use your fingers to type.
And you expect me to believe you are not angry? You announce that you will gloat if a crime is committed against me, and you are trying to tell me you are not angry at God?
A punk made a you tube video of himself approaching a completely unaware and innocent person from behind, and punching in the head causing near death. He did the whole thing with a big smile on his face, the same kind of smile you get at the thought of a crime being committed against me. And you want me to believe you are not angry? You are insane, which was the plea of the punk who committed a crime of reckless endangerment of life with a big smile on his face. Saying you don't condone crime but that you will laugh if it happens to me shows you are evil and lying about your motives. You are angry at God.
It's you who has committed a crime against God and it's you who is in danger of Him claiming His right over you....it's you who is in danger of Hell fire, and it's God who is being good to you giving you time outside of Hell which you do not deserve. You do not have the right to be here, I do not have the right to make you leave. You are trying to act like you are God, claiming to have the right to laugh if calamity befalls me at the hands of criminals. You are the criminal, and God has the right to laugh at your calamity, and He will laugh at your calamity if you will not heed His voice and repent of your sins and thank Him for His goodness and His mercy in keeping you out of Hell.....and the next step would be to believe on His Son and receive Him as your Savior and have eternal life....but I doubt you will stop standing on your "right" to defy God.
It must be terrible for you that you can't ban me.
So even though I deserve hell, God keeps me alive, despite me having no right to my life. Doesn't sound very just. Charitable, but not just.
Given the nasty position you take, if someone stole your car the irony would be too great to not be a bit amusing.
I don't defy God. I never have. I have argued against you. You like to use God as a threat against people who disagree with you. It's pretty pathetic. Especially since you ascribe your own petty personal qualities to God. God would be pretty dangerous for you if reality fit your dilusions. Thank God they don't.
Who is threatening you? I'm only telling you the truth. As a sinner, you do not have the right to exist outside of Hell. if you feel threatened by that, that's your problem......I suggest you take it up with God.
God does not keep you alive or you would not be dying. You are a dead man walking, on death row, condemned with no way out by anything you can say, think, or do. You are in the first death, that is where God is keeping you if you are still here. As long as you are here it is because God is delaying your execution when if you are not saved you will enter Hell and the second death which is eternal. The death you are in now is temporary. Once your time counts down to zero in the first death there will be no more counting down of time for you, it's forever and ever.
If you don't wake up before it's too late you will wake up in Hell. If you feel threatened by that, I suggest you find reconciliation with God before it's too late.
What's great about this post is its redundancy. It is the assertion you make to back up the identical assertion you've already made. There's nothing to it. Repeating it over and over may make you feel better, but beyond that it has no effect on your argument.
That only became a fact once you converted to Christianity, refuse to follow any of its teachings, and proceeding to laugh at people that are going to hell. Funny that.
Your problem is not my problem. I feel sorry for you knowing you are on your way to Hell and fighting tooth and nail against the fact.....but I"m not going to sit here and cry over you when all you to is ride me like a circus monkey
Nobody can convert to Christianity. To be a Christian, God has to make a new creation, a new you, born of His Spirit to be like Jesus in Heaven. You can convert to Islam, or to atheism, or to whatever you call yourself, you can convert to Hinduism, you cannot convert to Christianity. To be a Christian, you have to be born again ( a real Christian...you can convert to Catholicism and not be born of God's Spirit to be His child and a true Christian. You can be a very religious and devout Catholic after you convert and NEVER be a Christian, never be a new creation of, by, in, for, and through Jesus Christ the LORD. If God Himself does not convert a person to Christianity, there is no way a person can convert by their own effort or choice.
You have to be converted by God or no self-willed conversion to anything will keep you out of Hell.
So... youre catholic? If you say you have accepted the Holy Spirit, with the way you behave, I may just laugh so hard I will pee my pants - so better not, please.
Yeah that sums up everything that is wrong with Christian morality. They dont give a shit about the victim of crime, all they care about is that it is an insult to God.
but I doubt you will stop standing on your "right" to defy God.
I can just ignore you. You're just angry so you try to twist "right" to imply you have the right to live and you can't admit you are dying which proves you do not have the right to live. You're just mad at God for not letting you live.
You must not be a fan of enlightenment principles and philosophies. The enlightenment is where we got our ideas of rights. I don't have to twist the idea of rights in order to assert that life is among our inalienable rights.
One has to reach back to the dark ages to find any kind of agreement with your twisted religion.
If life is an inalienable right, why is life being denied from you in death? Is somebody violating your right, and are you angry at Him for violating your right? Do you feel like He is a criminal for denying you of your "inalienable right"?
When you speak of "enlightenment principles and philosophies", leading into your assertion of "inalienable rights", are you speaking of the ideals of Puritanical covenant theology which were manifested in the “social compact” of the Declaration of Independence, and then later in the U.S. Constitution; accomplishments which came from so many people being "enlightened" in the Great Awakening?
Are you speaking of the "enlightenment" which led to The Mayflower Compact.......which enlightenment spread in The Great Awakening spurring the breaking away of the American colonies to form a new nation?
Ummmm, excuse me, but the Dark Ages were the result of oppression in a time when nobody had "inalienable rights". Anybody who asserted "inalienable rights" was probably a Christian who believes the truth will set you free, and they would have been tortured and or executed.
The oppression was the result of Catholicism being enforced as the religion of the state. It is not a form of Christianity, it is a pagan religion used to enslave people. Jesus said "if you continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free'. The dark ages were the result of state controlled pagan religion suppressing the truth through brutal oppression.
You don't know what you are talking about. You would do better to compare yourself to an imbecile than trying to compare Biblical Christianity, which brought about the end of the dark ages and then the enlightenment of the Great Awakening, to pagan state controlled religion which by brute force and religious enslavement plunged civilization into the Dark Ages.
The modern dark ages coming on the world now are atheism and evolution. If the truth does not bring another Great Awakening, Jesus Christ Himself will wake up the world and most will wake up in Hell.
You do realize that the gospel of Jesus Christ is about His death on the cross He carried to His crucifixion, his burial, and resurrection, and being a Christian means picking up your cross to follow Him through death believing His promise of having eternal life, right? If you think Jesus conquering death is a "death cult", it's you who is losing out chained in death with no truth to set you free.
Do you also like to mimic canibalism and vampirism? I don't know if Jesus was about a death cult, but he certainly has inspired some. You, for example.
If you don't belong in Hell burning, where do you belong? I have no excuse for not being in Hell now. There is a reason, not an excuse, for being outside of Hell, and a reason, not an excuse, why I will not burn in Hell. I belong in Hell, I'm a sinner who deserves to burn in Hell the same as everybody else. Why is that hard for you to admit? Sinners belong in Hell...........
So the question remains: "If Hell is real, why am I not burning in it now?"
Where do you think you belong?
I misspoke here. The correct wording is "I deserve to be in Hell frying like an eternal sausage as a sinner". I misspoke when I said I belong in Hell. Nobody belongs in Hell, all can be saved from it. People do not belong in Hell. There simply is no other place for them if they will not repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Christ died to save all people from Hell but few will repent of their sin and believe on Him to be saved. There is no place but Hell for sinners. Hell justifies the existence of sinners, and proves God is good in everything that He has done including creating creatures who had the freedom of choice to sin against Him.
Given that you fail to understand the analogy, or understanding it you fail to take the point, others might ask the same of you. Others might ask, but they don't because they have better manners than you. Your concept of courtesy seems as upside down as your view of God and The universe.
You leave highly offensive posts such as this and others and consider it good manners because you didn't say fuck, shit, piss, etc. Screwy as hell.
What does the bible say about "shit" and it's four letter relatives?
I understand if you find my comments offensive. It's because I have no respect for your spiritual beliefs. I think they are toxic to you and anyone else who takes them to heart. I know I won't change your mind, but I take other readers into account.
If you find my language on the subject offensive, just consider how others my take your view of their beliefs. The beliefs you judge and damn on Gods behalf. When you think of it from the other side, you will either stop being offended, or you will stop being offensive. Possibly both.
If you belong in hell, but you aren't there and you aren't going there, why are you not in heaven?
Why is that hard for you to admit?
Jesus's favorite pastime was drowning kittens, why is that so hard for you to admit? Is it because that's just some rediculous made up nonsense? Because if that's why you can't admit what I just asserted, then you understand my position concerning essentially everything you say.
If you belong where you are, why can't you stay there? Death will make you leave, so apparently you don't belong there.
I'm not in Heaven yet because God wants me here for now. Did I say I belong in Hell? Did I say you belong in Hell? People do not belong in Hell, it was not created for people, there is simply no other place for sinners to remain.
If you belong here, why can't you stay here?
There's a new me, created in Christ, a new Spirit which is the Spirit of God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit in me. While I am a sinner, that new Spirit in me cannot sin, and when this corrupt flesh is put off, I will be like Jesus completely, saved to sin no more, with the Lord in Heaven forever, and Heaven and Earth will be one, a new Heaven and a new Earth when sin is purged forever and all sinners remain in Hell.
you need to be born again to be a child of God, you can only be a sinner the way you are going, nothing but you and you can't get yourself out of death or Hell. You have sinned against God and deserve death and Hell. God Himself paid your price as the man Christ Jesus who died for your sins if you will repent, believe on Him, and receive Him as your Savior. God will hear you if you come to Him in repentance of your sin asking to be saved from Hell based on what Christ did for you; receiving Jesus Christ as your Savior and He will be in you forever making you a new creation in eternal life. This is the gift of God, you can receive it, but I doubt you ever will and I hope I am wrong about that.
I can never stay where I am, no matter where that is. That's the nature of a dynamic Universe. I belong in my house, but I can't stay, for a host of reasons.. Your confusion on this is very similar to your confusion on rights.
The fact that you will eventually die doesn't negate your right to this life. The fact that you must eventually eat doesn't mean you are eating right now nor does it mean you lack the right to refrain from eating right now.
Rights are a moral concept that function in a dynamic world. Yours is an amoral God in a stagnant world. I think stagnation and amorality are common threads for death cults.
There is no "fact that you must eat". If there were such a thing, you would never stop eating. You don't even have the right to not eat as you may be force fed. The fact that you are dying proves you do not have the right to live. There is no "eventually" about it, you are dying now and do not have the right to live. If you get another breath of air, it's a breath you do not deserve.
Dying is dynamic? I guess that's why they both start with the same prefix. Rights are a moral concept? And who decides what is moral? Are you the moral god? How can you be in stagnation when you are dying? It's progressive and getting worse.
You just like to try to say things with swelling words of vanity, a lot of pomp, and not much simple common sense realistic logic. You don't even have the right to respond to me. If you are allowed to respond, it's a privilege, a gift you do not deserve which may be taken away at any moment.
Your in the denial cult, trying to tell yourself you are not dying but rather are living and have to right to live even though reality is that you are dying..so you deny reality and claim silly rights which you have no way of appealing when you lose the privilege of enjoying what you say are your rights.......and you will lose, because you have no right in God's sight. You're already lost.
Take a flying leap if you think you have the right to live, and see if you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner. Why should I care? Foul mouth punk. I tried to get through to you, for your own good which you don't care about so why should I?
The two posts above this indicate a possible root to you confusion. Natural rights (natural law) and laws of nature are not the same thing. If someone denies me a natural right, it's still my right. The person is simply in the wrong. This is what makes it a moral concept. Gravity is a property of physics. It can't actually be broken. The laws of physics can't actually be denied me either. It's apples to thermometers. That's how different they are.
It's an unfortunate circumstance for you that you don't know life. In your view nothing is alive, everything is dying. No one has rights and or God given freedom. Rather all are enslaved to a being that most would recognize as the devil himself.
I don't think any amount of reason will jar you from this perverted outlook. Still, I occasionally come around to try.
I don't even want to read your stuff anymore. Try telling God you are too good for Hell or good enough to deserve to be exempt from it and see if He buys your line. I've thrown all your lines in the trash, but maybe you can sell them to God.........
Also, tell God that you feel, believe, or know that you have the right to exist outside of Hell and see if God agrees with you on that.
The fact that you are not in Hell now is not proof that God gives you the right to exist outside of Hell. Time outside of Hell is temporary. That's why it's called time, it's temporary.
I'm not going to be reading your stuff here. You're borderline psycho.
I misspoke here. The correct wording is "I deserve to be in Hell frying like an eternal sausage as a sinner". I misspoke when I said I belong in Hell. Nobody belongs in Hell, all can be saved from it. People do not belong in Hell. There simply is no other place for them if they will not repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Christ died to save all people from Hell but few will repent of their sin and believe on Him to be saved. There is no place but Hell for sinners. Hell justifies the existence of sinners, and proves God is good in everything that He has done including creating creatures who had the freedom of choice to sin against Him.
Haha yeah the sausage gag is funny innit. Can you imagine them scream?? hahaha. Btw, have you seen the ISIS vids? Especially that pilot burnt alive in the cage. They are just all these moron burning in hell. Want to make some jokes about them too? "5 fat sausages sizzling in a pan! one went pop the other went BANG!!". boom! bye bye sausage!
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You are evil person. How dare you make jokes about people burning for eternity?
Sinners do not belong in Hell but they do not have the right to exist outside of Hell. Death is evidence of this fact, but fools will not take heed and seek reconciliation with God to be secure in His mercy....the reconciliation He provide for by giving Himself as the propitiation for our sins so He can be justified to forgive all who believe on Him.
Jesus Christ is our atonement for sin if we believe on Him.
Ob boy, here's some more of your "courtesy". It's more likely that your mother drowned kittens for fun, and she probably thought about drowning a kid too.
Why not curse God and die? That's what you are doing and you act like everybody is supposed to applaud you for the show you put on? You're making yourself a tragic comedy. I'd rather watch you play hockey so I could forget for a moment that the ice under your feet is melting over the fire so Hell........but I don't watch sports.
All cheer for the reciter of this nonsense as he curses God while dying!!!!!! Yeahhhh, Yeaaaahhh, you go man!!!!!!! Curse God and die!!!!!!!!!!!! Hoororrray Hoorraay for our Hero Slap Shot!!!!!
What a man he is!!!!! Standing up in God's face and spitting him in the eye!!!! Yay!!!! Woo Woo!!!!