Those who lie Albert Eistein is an unbeliever, Here you go
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"Walter Isaacson quoted Einstein in the article “Einstein and Faith,” Time 169, April 5, 2007, 47): “The fanatical atheists … are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who – in their grudge against the traditional ‘opium of the people’ – cannot bear the ‘music of the spheres.'” According to Prince Hubertus (Ronald W. Clark, “Einstein: The Life and Times,” New York: World Publishing Company, 1971, p. 425), Einstein said: “In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.” Einstein wrote to M. Berkowitz, 1950, (William Hermanns, “Einstein and the Poet. In Search of the Cosmic Man,” Brookline Village MA: Branden Books, 1983, p. 60): “‘God’ is a mystery. But a comprehensible mystery. I have nothing but awe when I observe the laws of nature. There are not laws without a lawgiver, but how does this lawgiver look? Certainly not like a man magnified.” Though not believing in a personal God, The Saturday Evening Post, Oct. 26, 1929, published George Sylvester Viereck’s interview with Albert Einstein. When asked “To what extent are you influenced by Christianity,” Einstein answered: “As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene.” When asked “Have you read Emil Ludwig’s book on Jesus,” Einstein replied: “Emil Ludwig’s Jesus is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot! (witty remark)” When asked “You accept the historical existence of Jesus,” Einstein answered: “Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life.” Princeton University’s Fine Hall has inscribed Albert Einstein’s words above the fireplace: “Raffiniert ist der Herr Gott, aber Boshaft ist er nicht.” (God is clever, but not dishonest.)" http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/03/ Side: Atheists have always lied
Hello J: I'm not an atheist because somebody told me to be one.. Any atheist who FOLLOWS other people isn't really an atheist - they're followers. Personally, I would BE an atheist even if EVERYBODY in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD told me I was wrong.. excon Side: Atheists have always lied
So it was a lie when Einstein said: "I am a deeply religious non-believer ... this is a somewhat new kind of religion." OR: "To take those fools in clerical garb seriously is to show them too much honor!" He might not have been an Atheist, but he certainly was NOT a believer! Here ya go! By the way. If he was a Christian, what church did he attend? Which Bible did he read and live by? Have you evidence that he EVER went to church? Side: Atheists have always lied
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Which Bible did he read and live by? I suppose the most popular bible in his time. Have you evidence that he EVER went to church? Oh come on! He was a jew, he certainly went to church and received some teachings in childhood till probably teen age. Side: Atheists have always lied
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While your first point is obviously true, the second has no bearing on his religion - I was forced to go to a christian church for a decade, and visited every Sunday. I truly was a christian at this time, and believed in the literal word of the bible. However, over the past 4 years, I have decided that everything about religion is just BS - I am truly an atheist. Therefore, his actions as a child have no bearing on his beliefs as an adult. Side: Atheists are really miserable
As you said, "probably". Do all who come from a Christian country go to church? 'Till they are teens? Nope. So "probably not" is just as legitimate. I "went to church" till I was a teen. Couldn't believe what I was hearing. "Probably" he didn't either, and there IS evidence in the quotes I advanced, as much as in the other quotes in this debate. Side: Atheists have always lied
Wow. Hey There Everyone. Did You know that in 1941 Albert Einstein Said that A doctrine which is able to maintain itself not in clear light but only in the dark, will of necessity lose its effect on mankind, with incalculable harm to human progress..... ALBERT GOES ON TO SAY THAT WE MUST " give up that source of fear and hope which in the past placed such vast power in the HANDS OF PRIESTS. I am trying to read as many Posts here as Possible. I believe that Albert Einstein was a Believer in a God But he did not wish to define God with any Specific Religion or make a CLAIM to be ( Himself ) identified with a Religious Denomination. He is always a Hero of Mine. Side: Atheists have always lied
I also Know that When Albert Einstein Left NAZI Germany in 1933 - He was visiting the United States when Adolf Hitler came to power in 1933 and Albert Einstein did not go back to Germany., where he had been a professor at the Berlin Academy of Sciences. Albert Einstein settled in the United States, becoming an American citizen in 1940., In Germany Every Priest And Bishop were becoming Government Agents of the German Government. Placing their Hands on the Bible and Swearing to God Almighty and Upon the Gospels - COMPLETE, total Loyalty to the Nazi Party and to Adolf Hitler. This is Every Priests Goal around the World - To become a Official Government Agent. In Charge and to Reach the height of being the SOCIALIST As a Supreme Social Worker and Controller of the Citizens; the Prison System, The FBI, The CIA and Social Government Services is where they Pour all their Money in, UNTILL they gain Control of everything they can. Side: Atheists have always lied
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Yes, Einstein was between an agnostic, a pantheist, and a deist. Your point? I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal god is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being. A secularist atheist there. Combining all, he should have been a taoist. Side: Atheists are really miserable
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Nice job quote mining to misrepresent his religious views. I can quote mine too. "From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist" "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one" "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings." See how easy it is to flip things around by quote mining. I could explain some of the seeming contradictions in some of his quotes, but it's pretty clear that you're just trolling, so I'm not going to waste any more time. If you want a more balanced view of his religious beliefs, read this http://www.clockbackward.com/2009/02/08/ Side: Atheists are really miserable
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"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one" - Nope. Focusing on the positive and looking for the best solution is what grown ups do. Children pout and whine and demand... like most atheists on this site do. Side: Atheists have always lied
Can you show me where I have EVER "pouted whined or demanded"? Just because I disagree with YOU, Speak out against conservative "demands", disagree with your mythology, that doesn't qualify as a whiner and pouter, that's standing up for MY rights and beliefs ... just like I am NOW! Disagree with brontoraptor and be just like the guy you disagree with??? Einstein was a DEIST, like most of our "non-believers-in-YOUR-god" forefathers! Stop pouting and whining! Side: Atheists have always lied
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"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist" I beg your pardon, do you understand your own English? "From the viewpoint of a jesuit priest" Example; from misfits viewpoint, i am, of course,have always been a troll. It doesn't mean i am a troll. "I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one" How do you understand that?"idea of personal God. And what question was he asked exactly? If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. "Albert Einstein was quoted in The New York Times, Nov. 9, 1930, saying: “I assert that the cosmic religious experience is the strongest and noblest driving force behind scientific research.” I could explain some of the seeming contradictions in some of his quotes, No need, i comprehend english well enough. You want to explain someone elses personal views? As his son, secretary or publicist? I know you will just contaminate it with politically bias cynicism from your cult, atheism Side: Atheists have always lied
Oh, You are So Right on Jeff. I see the Other Viewpoints here. But I know that Albert Einstein was a deep Thinker and He let His Words Fall exactly where they Lay. * From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest. He Was Truly An Athiest. REMEMBER Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florenc All who are outside the Catholic Chu And Also Heretics (those who are NOT MEMBERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH or who DO NOT HOLD TO CATHOLIC DOCTRINE) - Worship a God WHO IS A LIAR, and a CHRIST WHO IS A LIAR.' This is the message of the Catholic Father - St. Augustine, (quoted in 'Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Series Graca', by Fr. J. P. Migne, Paris: 1866, 42:207. Albert Einstein lived these words - running for His Life. Side: Atheists are really miserable
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According to Prince Hubertus (Ronald W. Clark, “Einstein: The Life and Times,” New York: World Publishing Company, 1971, p. 425), Einstein said: “In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.” Side: Atheists have always lied
Einstein, if he did believe in a God, most likely believed in a God closer to Spinoza's pantheistic deity than to the Christian idea of a personal God, and, besides which, even if he were the most devout Christian in the universe it would make no difference to whether or not the Christian faith is true. I realise that for many of you theists this is difficult to understand, but we atheists don't actually base what we believe on pronouncements from up high, but rather on what logic and the most current evidence suggests is true, which means that Einstein's personal views have nothing to do with whether or not God exists, in the same way that the fact that some of what Darwin said has now been proven to be inaccurate does not negate the evidence for evolution by natural selection. Also, giving both views names which support your own opinion is a fairly strong sign that the content of your argument is worthless. Side: Atheists are really miserable
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The title of the debate is, "Those who lie Albert Einstein is an unbeliever, Here you go". Based on this, I made the assumption that you were trying to present evidence that Einstein believed in a personal God, and I tried to provide evidence against that assertion. I apologise if this assumption was incorrect and there was actually some other mystical purpose behind this debate, but in any case not of this changes the fact that giving both of the viewpoints names which help your cause is the "debating technique" of a coward. Side: Atheists have always lied
. Albert Einstein had a lot of pressure from people who wanted His feelings, perspectives and opinions about many things. Albert Even had a rumor come up about a Jesuit Catholic Priest who was supposed to have made the Claim that He { Albert } had converted to Christianity because of the persuasion, convincing, and ministering of The Jesuit Catholic Priest. Albert denied having ever converted to anything that involved the mentality of that such Catholic Priests ideology. Albert Einstein claimed to believe in an self expression or recognition of the idea of a God however facts about His religious practices and feelings and beliefs are unknown. Albert Einstein did use the term and word God in statements He made and here are some Quotes that Albert was supposed to have made about God. https://www.bethinking.org/god/ There is a link where quotes are made by Albert Einstein, where he mentions God. Albert Einstein did express a disagreement with the Ideas of the Catholic God. If You read His answer to the question proposed about His Conversion He Said On Mar 29, 2010 Albert Einstein, WROTE ,....." I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist. " Albert Einstein also made another comment about the Priests Saying THAT WE MUST " give up that source of fear and hope which in the past placed such vast power in the HANDS OF PRIESTS. In Relating to The doctrine He feared and warned about doctrines which is able to maintain itself not in clear light but only in the dark, will of necessity lose its effect on mankind, with incalculable harm to human progress Albert loved Catholics and Protestants and Both Many, Many religious People helped the Jews during The War. Especially the Jehovah Witness people in Germany. I think that Albert Einstein was sad to leave His Friends and Home behind back in Germany but was running for His Life. The Germans raided His home and went through all His property looking for any way to make the Atom bomb. His friends and fellow scientists back in Germany were gone forever. Side: Atheists are really miserable
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Albert Einstein claimed to believe in an self expression or recognition of the idea of a God however facts about His religious practices and feelings and beliefs are unknown. That's probably a fair summary. He denied being an atheist, but he also denied the existence of a personal God. Side: Atheists have always lied
Einstein did not deny being an Atheist, he just rarely invoked this label (but has adopted it in writing). He would often speak about "God" and the "religious feeling/spirit of science", but he is using this in the same metaphorical way that Stephen Hawking refers to God (who is also an Atheist). Side: Atheists have always lied
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