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Hawking Was Wrong Nom Was Wrong
Debate Score:40
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Total Votes:72
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Time Travel To The Past Is Possible And I Can Prove It

Let's just clear one thing up before I go any further. Hawking would agree with me too.

When people talk about time travel they are usually talking about travelling within the same frame of reference. However, if you are prepared to put space between you and the target you intend to travel to, then time travel becomes extremely simple. It would even be demonstrable were you prepared to synchronise two atomic clocks.

Anyway, Einstein's theory of time dilation is pretty much a confirmed scientific truth these days, since we use his equations to manage global positioning satellites. I thought I'd squeeze that in because there's always some mad bastard (usually mingmong) who bursts in and thinks they are being edgy by insisting that time doesn't exist.

Once you accept that time moves slower in a strong gravitational field than a weak one, time travel to the past becomes as simple as living on top of a big hill for a couple of decades and then travelling back down to level ground. It honestly is that simple.

You could also do it by living on the Moon. In fact, this would make the difference considerably more noticeable. 

Just thought I'd let you all know, anyway.

Hawking Was Wrong

Side Score: 14
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Nom Was Wrong

Side Score: 26
BigOats(1449) Banned
0 points

So go ahead and PROVE it with formulas from general relativity. Which exact solution of Einstein's equasions allows us to travel in time? Not in empty spacetime. In real actual situations.

Side: Hawking Was Wrong
1 point

"synchronise" what is that word you typed you fucking genius ????????????????

Side: Nom Was Wrong
johnthethird(-2) Disputed
0 points

"synchronise" what is that word you typed you fucking genius

In England we have these things called dictionaries. Why don't you try opening one?

Side: Hawking Was Wrong
1 point

NOM did Capitalism or Socialism provide you with the Time Travel you made with an invalid ????????????

Side: Nom Was Wrong
1 point

Time dilation only happens for the observer. It does not affect time for anyone else. And under no circumstances does time run backward. For instance, if someone was on a ship traveling near the speed of light, time would slow down for them. They would arrive back on Earth,after many years, having aged little. But the rest of the world would have moved on without them.

Side: Nom Was Wrong
johnthethird(-2) Disputed
1 point

Time dilation only happens for the observer.

Time dilation happens everywhere there is a gravitational or electromagnetic field. You are confusing two separate concepts: time dilation happening, and time dilation being observed to be happening. Time still moves faster on the Moon than it does on Earth, regardless of whether there is an observer there or not, because the gravitational pull of the Earth curves time more than the gravitational pull of the Moon does. In its natural condition time is flat, not curved. It only becomes curved once you add matter and/or energy to it.

And under no circumstances does time run backward.

Nobody is talking about time running backwards. We are talking about two separate locations in which time does not run at the same rate. If you spend a decade on the Moon and then fly back to Earth you will be travelling to the past, albeit only from your perspective. From the perspective of people on Earth you will have come from the future and arrived in the present.

Side: Hawking Was Wrong
Grugore(856) Disputed
0 points

OK. You're an idiot. I wasn't sure, at first, but you have just confirmed it. Sucks to be you.

Side: Nom Was Wrong
0 points

I never said time doesn't exist, you're confusing me with Factmachine. Three accounts you argued with recently including fingerbang have been Factmachine. You are becoming confused between your personas.

Side: Nom Was Wrong
BobBarker Disputed
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Three accounts you argued with recently including fingerbang have been Factmachine.

I wasn't sure with Fingerbang whether it was FM or Bronto trying to impersonate FM. His views didn't seem to align with FM's, only the writing style.

Side: Hawking Was Wrong
outlaw60(15368) Disputed Banned
2 points

Damn NOM is all knowing about alt accounts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Nom Was Wrong
outlaw60(15368) Disputed Banned
2 points

NOM the all knowing what is my IP Address ?????????????????????????????????

Side: Nom Was Wrong

I wasn't sure with Fingerbang whether it was FM or Bronto trying to impersonate FM.

Actually, it was FM trying to impersonate Bronto.

Side: Hawking Was Wrong
0 points

What the fuck you babbling about there NOM ?????????????????????????

Side: Nom Was Wrong
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NOM how was your time travel with Hawking ?????????? What did you see and do ????

Side: Nom Was Wrong
-1 points

Can a Clown like you travel at all ?????????????????????????????????????

Side: Nom Was Wrong
-1 points

Time Travel To The Past Is Possible And I Can Prove It

Let's just clear one thing up before I go any further. Hawking would agree with me too.

When people talk about time travel they are usually talking about travelling within the same frame of reference. However, if you are prepared to put space between you and the target you intend to travel to, then time travel becomes extremely simple. It would even be demonstrable were you prepared to "synchronise" two atomic clocks.

Anyway, Einstein's theory of time dilation is pretty much a confirmed scientific truth these days, since we use his equations to manage global positioning satellites. I thought I'd squeeze that in because there's always some mad bastard (usually mingmong) who bursts in and thinks they are being edgy by insisting that time doesn't exist.

Once you accept that time moves slower in a strong gravitational field than a weak one, time travel to the past becomes as simple as living on top of a big hill for a couple of decades and then travelling back down to level ground. It honestly is that simple.

You could also do it by living on the Moon. In fact, this would make the difference considerably more noticeable.

Just thought I'd let you all know, anyway.

You ain't proved shit you Dumb Ass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Nom Was Wrong
BobBarker Disputed
1 point

You ain't proved shit you Dumb Ass

Time dilation proves that time travelling to the past is possible and I have explained why and how. Go and do something useful like cutting off your own head.

Side: Hawking Was Wrong