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 To Liberal's who pretend they don't see the PC attacks on our freedoms to dissagree. (18)

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To Liberal's who pretend they don't see the PC attacks on our freedoms to dissagree.

You spend your lives on these debate sites spewing pure lies & rhetoric to try and indoctrinate the people to allow big Government control.

Now of course the very thing that this nation needs so desparately, A DIALOGE OF MORAL VALUES IN OUR PUBLIC PLACES INSTEAD OF NON STOP DISCUSSIONS ON WEIRD SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS, is the one and only thing you fight against.

You want a censored filter for any mention of God, or moral opinions of Christians or Conservatives, in schools etc. all under the lie of "separation of church and state" no matter that those words are NO WHERE in the Constitution and no matter that after the constitution was written MOST of our schools had prayers with no problem from anti God control freaks complaining that the Constitution did not support it. The constitution says that Government shall pass no law to establish a religion... THAT'S IT! It says Congress shall pass no law PROHIBITING THE FREE EXCERSICE OF RELIGION(that means freedoms of communities to choose a prayer if they want with no child forced to pray)

Still to this day we have a prayer at the beginning of every congressional session ad the leaders of our Congress do not see it as going against the constitution but you bigots will fight and fight and appoint Liberal judges until this nation has lost everything it stood for.... the freedom to dissagree with the big GGovernment collective forcing their will on the states!

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Atrag(5553) Banned
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NON STOP DISCUSSIONS ON WEIRD SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS

Erm.. this is you. You post something about homosexuality every few days.

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Haha, so true.

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Haha, yes - their last I think.. 4 debates created, all have the word "gay" in the title, lol!

Warjin(1577) Banned
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A few questions?

1. How would you feel if you went to court and the court took some time out to pray to Allah?

2. Would you think it's fair to have your child participate in a Muslim prayer in public school?

3. What if you where told that because you have "Example:" red hair you can not run for any political office or can not drive a car, unless you dye your hair?

4. How would you feel if our national anthem said "one nation under Vishnu indivisible with liberty and justice for all" etc. etc.

5. How would you feel if you get 5 years in prison for an ounce of marijuana because your skin is white and a person of dark skin gets 6 months probation for the same offense?

6. Do you think it's right to fly a Nazi flag or any Flag that represents treason or linked to the persecution of ones freedom outside of any State or Federal building in the United States?

Please don't let your bias cloud your reasoning, lets be fair, also I do see what the Liberals are doing, they are not innocent by any means, they are corrupt just like the Conservatives, both factions have a higher agenda that that agenda is there God and not the God of any book the God of Money, Greed, Power and control.

We are victims of divide and conquer and most are to blind to see it.

FromWithin(8266) Disputed
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HOW MANY TIMES have I answered your ludicrous questions. If I lived in a predominately muslim nation, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A MUSLIM PRAYER IN MANY OF THEIR SCHOOLS! If I were so insecure and offended by a nation's majority faith and expression of their heritage, I would take my child to schools that do not prayer, or home school them, etc.

I would not live in a nation that condones killing people who have a different faith. I live in America where we can believe anything we want, where we are never forced to pray along, where we can go to any school we want that more fits our beliefs. IT CALLED SCHOOL CHOICE THAT THE GOP HAS TRIED TO PASS FOR DECADES NOW!

This pedomintely CHRISTIAN nation with our Christian heritage has always had Christian prayers that force NO ONE to pray along!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You asked a bunch of rediculous hypotheticl questions tht have nothing to do with anything I said.

I will ask you a question that has everything to do with my argument.

How would you feel if you lived in a nation that did not allow the freedom of religious expression and free speech because it might offend the one? That would be your Islamic nations that kill people if they dissagree with the collective.

It is people like you ushering in that kind of sick culture where instead of Islamic terrorists controlling the people, it is Liberal politically correct control fanatics.

The GOP is nothing like the control fanatics in the Democrt party. To say such garbage is why I must ban people like yourself. It truly wastes my time.

flewk(1192) Clarified Banned
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If I lived in a predominately muslim nation, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A MUSLIM PRAYER IN MANY OF THEIR SCHOOLS! If I were so insecure and offended by a nation's majority faith and expression of their heritage, I would take my child to schools that do not prayer, or home school them, etc.

Freedom of religion applies to all religions, not just the majority one.

You have a different interpretation of the First Amendment than most people in the US.

I live in America where we can believe anything we want, where we are never forced to pray along, where we can go to any school we want that more fits our beliefs. IT CALLED SCHOOL CHOICE THAT THE GOP HAS TRIED TO PASS FOR DECADES NOW!

Private schools can choose. Public schools cannot. If a government institution supported some random procedure, it would probably violate the rights of the minority. For example, anti-miscegenation had majority support for a long while. Should the federal government support it since it was the majority opinion? Or should SCOTUS have ruled against it as they did in 1967?

Again. Freedoms and rights apply to everyone. Not just the majority.

pirateelfdog(2655) Disputed Banned
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If I lived in a predominately muslim nation, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A MUSLIM PRAYER IN MANY OF THEIR SCHOOLS!

Really? I would expect that from a country that had a national religion. Which we don't.

Cartman(18191) Disputed Banned
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 MANY TIMES have I answered your ludicrous questions

0 times. You have never answered the question. You always talk about how you think America doesn't have the freedom of religion like a Muslim country.

GenericName(3430) Disputed Banned
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HOW MANY TIMES have I answered your ludicrous questions. If I lived in a predominately muslim nation, I WOULD EXPECT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A MUSLIM PRAYER IN MANY OF THEIR SCHOOLS

Good thing our Constitution prevents said nonsense.

If I were so insecure and offended by a nation's majority faith and expression of their heritage, I would take my child to schools that do not prayer, or home school them, etc.

Since you are so insecure and offended by a lack of prayer, you should go ahead and take your child to a school that does include prayer (not on the taxpayer's dime).

I would not live in a nation that condones killing people who have a different faith. I live in America where we can believe anything we want, where we are never forced to pray along, where we can go to any school we want that more fits our beliefs. IT CALLED SCHOOL CHOICE THAT THE GOP HAS TRIED TO PASS FOR DECADES NOW!

It's complete nonsense predicated upon the lie that charter schools have significantly better performance, which has been thoroughly debunked.

This pedomintely CHRISTIAN nation with our Christian heritage has always had Christian prayers that force NO ONE to pray along!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody is stopping you, or anybody else, from praying.

You asked a bunch of rediculous hypotheticl questions tht have nothing to do with anything I said.

So he did the same thing you do over and over, and you actually took issue with that? Ironic.

I will ask you a question that has everything to do with my argument.

How would you feel if you lived in a nation that did not allow the freedom of religious expression and free speech because it might offend the one? That would be your Islamic nations that kill people if they dissagree with the collective.

Clearly they allow freedom of religious expression for the majority, or else it would not be an Islamic nation.

It is people like you ushering in that kind of sick culture where instead of Islamic terrorists controlling the people, it is Liberal politically correct control fanatics.

That makes absolutely no sense, what so ever.

The GOP is nothing like the control fanatics in the Democrt party. To say such garbage is why I must ban people like yourself. It truly wastes my time.

Every single one of your debates is about how you want to control people. You are just angry that you are failing and other people are succeeding.

Nomoturtle(797) Disputed
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or home school them

please don't .

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(that means freedoms of communities to choose a prayer if they want with no child forced to pray)

No it does not you stupid fuck.

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You have the freedom to disagree stupid. You don't have the freedom to prevent freedom.

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You spend your lives on these debate sites spewing pure lies & rhetoric

Whoa, that sounds just like this guy I debate with online!

Now of course the very thing that this nation needs so desparately, A DIALOGE OF MORAL VALUES IN OUR PUBLIC PLACES INSTEAD OF NON STOP DISCUSSIONS ON WEIRD SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS,

This conversation came out of a dialogue on moral values. People in this country value tolerance and equality, and in discussing this, discussion of tolerance and equality for the LGBT community. You seem to not want a discussion, you just want there to only be discussion from the side you agree with.

However, unfortunately for you, people do not agree with you. For the past few months, just about every poll has consistently put support for gay marriage above 50%, many above 60%.

NON STOP DISCUSSIONS ON WEIRD SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS

You're the one who makes a different debate about it every few days. I don't think the discussion is as all encompassing as you think. You must be searching out these stories intentionally to prove some point for yourself. Or maybe you're just annoyed that all of the stories that you see go against what you believe.

is the one and only thing you fight against.

No, it's just the thing that you seem to focus on the most.

You want a censored filter for any mention of God,

Nope.

or moral opinions of Christians or Conservatives, in schools etc.

In public schools. Because freedom of religion is about all religions, not just the majority one.

all under the lie of "separation of church and state" no matter that those words are NO WHERE in the Constitution

No one claims it does, but it is clearly implied by the first amendment.

and no matter that after the constitution was written MOST of our schools had prayers with no problem from anti God control freaks complaining that the Constitution did not support it.

I know, right! Why can't people just have one belief for all time? Lets go back to exactly how the united states were when the Constitution was written.

The constitution says that Government shall pass no law to establish a religion... THAT'S IT!

To quote a friend of mine, "We have explained to you how establishing religions works. For example, having the government force children to listen to a certain religion's prayer is an establishment of endorsement for said religion."

It says Congress shall pass no law PROHIBITING THE FREE EXCERSICE OF RELIGION(that means freedoms of communities to choose a prayer if they want with no child forced to pray)

No one is prevented from prayer.

Still to this day we have a prayer at the beginning of every congressional session ad the leaders of our Congress do not see it as going against the constitution

I wouldn't say that's true.

but you bigots will fight and fight and appoint Liberal judges until this nation has lost everything it stood for.... the freedom to dissagree with the big GGovernment collective forcing their will on the states!

In one breath you call others bigots, then in the next you claim that everyone who has different opinions are evil and want to destroy everything good and right.

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It was the Warren Court (President Eisenhower had appointed Earl Warren as Chief Justice) that unanimously declared in Brown v. Board of Education that racial segregation in public schools was unconstitutional because the Equal Rights clause in the Fourteenth Amendment was violated. This was mainly a CONSERVATIVE Supreme Court that unanimously made this decision. Also, later in 1957, President Eisenhower sent Federal troops to Little Rock to enforce integration at a high school which was viewed by States Rights advocates as a violation of Executive power. All of this change was done by REPUBLICANS.

In 2015, the Supreme Court in Obergefell v. Hodges ruled by 5-4 that Same Sex Marriage is now legal in all States because bans against it violates the Equal Rights clause in the Fourteenth Amendment.

To conclude, the Conservative Republicans started the change but the Liberal Democrats further enhanced the change. What happened in 2015 is the same kind of progressive change but in a different package.

FromWithin(8266) Disputed
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You are so lost it it truly pathetic. Weird sexual orientations deserve no special marriage laws as is no polygamist deserving of equal rights to have 30 wives. Comparing it to skin color is mindless dribble. I wish there was a life time ban on this site. It is such a waste listening to extremists explain how big Government has a right to force entire states to bow to it's will!

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You do realize they legalized the same exact marriage for gays as straights. No special rules for them.

GenericName(3430) Disputed Banned
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You are so lost it it truly pathetic.

You should try to ask a psychologist why you find projection to be the best foremost defense mechanism.

Weird sexual orientations deserve no special marriage laws

And they don't get any. Any consenting adult being allowed to marry any other consenting adult provides no special marriage laws.

as is no polygamist deserving of equal rights to have 30 wives.

You don't seem to understand what the phrase "equal rights" means. That said, what argument do you have against polygamy that doesn't boil down to "I DON'T LIKE IT, THEREFORE IT SHOULD BE AGAINST THE LAW!"

Comparing it to skin color is mindless dribble.

As someone who is in an interracial marriage and has been verbally attacked for said marriage, I completely and utterly disagree. On top of that, the legal arguments involved were the exact same.

I wish there was a life time ban on this site.

I wish Andy would hurry up and ban you from the site since you contribute nothing but negativity and a degradation of the quality of conversation. You treat this website as your own personal little power trip so you can boost your own ego by censoring opinions that you don't like.

is such a waste listening to extremists explain how big Government has a right to force entire states to bow to it's will!

And yet you want big government to do that on so many issues.

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You spend your lives on these debate sites spewing pure lies & rhetoric

That is literally the only thing you do here.

to try and indoctrinate the people to allow big Government control.

Again, something you are a huge supporter of.

Now of course the very thing that this nation needs so desparately, A DIALOGE OF MORAL VALUES IN OUR PUBLIC PLACES INSTEAD OF NON STOP DISCUSSIONS ON WEIRD SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS, is the one and only thing you fight against.

Actually, the dialogue of moral values is what led to this. People in this country value tolerance and equality, morally speaking, and thus this happened. People do not agree with you. You need to face that.

You want a censored filter for any mention of God

A proven lie.

or moral opinions of Christians or Conservatives

Another proven lie.

in schools etc.

Another proven lie.

all under the lie of "separation of church and state" no matter that those words are NO WHERE in the Constitution

Nobody claims it does, but the First Amendment creates it none the less, using different wording.

and no matter that after the constitution was written MOST of our schools had prayers with no problem from anti God control freaks complaining that the Constitution did not support it.

When the Constitution was written all sorts of horrible nonsense was considered legal that, now a days, we wouldn't think for one second was Constitutionally viable. Things change.

The constitution says that Government shall pass no law to establish a religion... THAT'S IT!

We have explained to you how establishing religions works. For example, having the government force children to listen to a certain religion's prayer is an establishment of endorsement for said religion.

It says Congress shall pass no law PROHIBITING THE FREE EXCERSICE OF RELIGION(that means freedoms of communities to choose a prayer if they want with no child forced to pray)

Not a single person is prevented from praying. Not one. This is why people laugh at you.

Still to this day we have a prayer at the beginning of every congressional session ad the leaders of our Congress do not see it as going against the constitution

That's because they are not a captive audience.

but you bigots will fight and fight and appoint Liberal judges until this nation has lost everything it stood for.... the freedom to dissagree with the big GGovernment collective forcing their will on the states!

In one breath you call others bigots, then in the next you claim that everyone who has different opinions are evil and want to destroy everything good and right. It's projection at its finest.

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I speak to Gay and transgender issues because Liberal fools like yourselves constantly push it on our nation! Gee what has happened in the last couple weeks? Oh that's right, activist judges forced every state in the union to support weird sexual orientations to have marrige rights. Girl scouts came out with Transgender boys joining as girls. Gee, I wonder why I must keep speaking to our freedoms being taken away. I know you just hate it because you want to be the thought police for all americans. You hate anyone hearing opposing opinions. CONTROL FANATICS!

If you actually cared about our freedoms more than some weird abnormal sex, then you might be worth debating.

But alas you are bunch of insecure Liberal ideologs who must force all Americans to sanction your weird fixation with abnormal sex so you can feel good about yourselves.

I need no sanction from others to feel good about myself because I am very secure with who i am no matter wht anyone else thinks. If i were Gay I would not be arrogant enough to try and force others to give me marrige rights when I knew it was not a normal thing. Get some pride and quit trying to force respect from people. You wil get respect when you quit forcing it down our throats.

You judgemental hypocrites can call me bigoted anti Christian names, zealot, hatemonger, fundamentalist, etc. etc. & I truly could care less because I know in my heart and soul that what I believe is good and has kept me from most all problems in life. It's such a fulfillng simple life when one accepts the importance of moral values and not rebelling against them. Not sleeping around, not taking drugs, not over drinking, not smoking, not one night hookups, not having sex with anyone but the one person you love, not spending more than you make, etc. etc. IT'S SIMPLE COMMON SENSE but Liberals act like it is impossible to live a responsible moral life and we must subsidize their irresponsibility. But of course Liberals are truly insecure fools.