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Seal hunting should be illegal Seal hunting should be legal
Debate Score:28
Arguments:18
Total Votes:35
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 Seal hunting should be illegal (11)
 
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To hunt seal or not to hunt seal?

I think that this is an important issue now that Seal season has come out again. I don't find any need to hunt seals for fun or any other reason. Thank you.

Seal hunting should be illegal

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Seal hunting should be legal

Side Score: 12
4 points

Since many seal species are endangered, and synthetic furs are cheap, there's no logical reason to hunt seals.

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal
2 points

They kill cute little seals for fun, not kool!I don't think it should be legal unless your going to use the seals, not if your using it to prove how strong or worthy you are!

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal
frenchieak(1132) Disputed
1 point

But is that only for seals? Or is that for every animal? Because I don't think the killing of animals for no reason makes sense. I'm perfectly fine with it if people use it for something, though. The people that waste game just ruin hunting and nature, in general, for everyone else. And as for killing animals for no reason, or to "prove how strong or worthy you are," there are already laws against that in many areas. You can really get in a lot of trouble for wasting animals.

Side: Seal hunting should be legal
marshs09(2) Disputed
1 point

firstly they do not do it for fun. it is a well regulated buisness which provides income for many people!

The seal hunt in Canada is tightly regulated there are many rules put in place to protect seal populations

For example:

It is against regulations to hunt seal pups

It is against regulations to skin an animal alive.

The quota is changed each year to reflect the current populations

Seals are no where near endangered there are over 5 million harp seals off the coast of Newfoundland alone.

The animals killed are used for their meat, oil, and pelts. This hunt has gone on for hundreds of years. I just finished my history exam and some historians believe that if the seal hunt never developed Newfoundland would still be at 18th century populations.

The hunt employs thousands of First nations and Euro-Canadians it can make up to 25% of their income. These are not barbarians these are hard working people trying to make a living.

The way in which the animals are killed is no worse then slaughter houses. Perhaps in some ways it is even better. The Majority of seals are shot not killed with the hakapik. There is even a movement to ban it http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-la…

if you don't have an issue with a hamburger you shouldn't have an issue with flipper pie.

What shocks me is the amount of poor information spread by anti-seal hunt sites. I can't get over the number of people who think white coat pups are killed.

Side: Seal hunting should be legal
HGrey87(750) Disputed
0 points

Are you fucking kidding? At least find out why people hunt seals before you start a debate on it. They sell the pelts. Lots of money. I've never heard of recreational seal hunting, and it sounds kind of ridiculous.

And just because you're going to use them doesn't make it right. That's so... biblical. My friend just told me this: Canadian fishermen kill 300,000+ seals a year, and 98% are under 3 months old. A study found about 42% of them are skinned alive for their pelts.

Not to mention ecological balance. Disrupting the food chain. Why am I even bothering, you're 9 years old.

Side: Seal hunting should be legal
1 point

I don't really care if they use it for food or something, but do they use the meat too? Or just the pelts? That's what I'd like to know.

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal
1 point

I think there should be a ban hunting for this poor little creatures. The least we need is for them to be extinct because of our fondness to have fun with them. Every little species on this world are getting fewer each day so I think that the hunt for some other animals should also be implemented and not just for seals.

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal
1 point

Anyone who eats beef, pork, chicken, or anything made from eggs or milk needs to seriously educate themselves before complaining about the seal hunt. Cows are held in individual pens and in order to unnaturally produce the amount of milk required by us humans the cows are continuously kept pregnant. Dairy cows are killed at 4 yrs, (naturally 25 yrs!). Pigs are kept in metal cages that are 2 feet long, so small the pig can’t turn around, and she can only take 1 step. She has to eat, sleep, and go to the washroom in this small space. A pig has approximately 3 litters, and then she is killed at an age of 24-30 months. Up to 6 egg laying chickens are kept in small cages approximately 16” x 18” in size. They can’t spread their wings and their bones snap because they NEVER get to leave the cage during their entire lives. When it's time to kill them the hens are hung upside down from their feet, dunked into electrified water to make them unconscious, and then their throats are cut. Now that's humane! The poor chickens born male are thrown alive into a giant grinder. These animals are locked away and in pain during their entire lives, but we don't hear about them in the news do we? No? Why? Because they are bred to be killed? Does that mean they should live such a sad existance. Yes this is the humaine and legal existance for domesticated livestalk here in the great Ontario. Seals are free in their natural surroundings. The seals are free to live up until the time they are hunted and killed. Free to live. Free of pain. Alive. Anyone who feels the need to complain about the seal hunt needs to seriously learn something about their own domesticated food first. I think that the fact the seals are alive and roaming free up until the time of death is amazing.

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal
1 point

Seals started out at 300 million, for their population. Ever since sealing, they are now at 2 million. No one needs fur from them. We now have faux fur, an animal-friendly alternative.

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal
1 point

the baby seal hunting makes me sick to my stomache, how would you like having your head bashed in repeatedly and then being skinned alive.. um cause yeah most of them are. im all for needing things from animals but for fashion and bull shit that is not needed to survive is beyond me at least have the damn heart to kill them humanely. it is wrong and should be illegal!!!!!!!

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal
1 point

you shouldn't kill the seals if you are not going to use them for food or anything it will decrease the population. the way they kill the seals is not right either cross bows that are used also cause extreme pain to the seals before their death.

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal
1 point

I'm for hunting in general and the majority of hunters honor nature and try to be as careful as possible to make an efficient kill. Commercial hunters.. such as these..likely get immuned to the suffering of animals as these hunters do it in such a wholesale way.. which can dettatch them from a more natural perspective/empathy. The facts are another thing... Do these hunters kill the YOUNG??? in other species of fish and hunting.. the young are protected... Whats the TRUTH... in this..? The anti's say the young are the main target... Whats the TRUTH... ??? When humans lose empathy... well lose balance... NOT GOOD !!! We are hunters by nature and should not be feminized of denuded... but we should be honorable to the different life forms... as we are all connected. The idea of Demonstrating our superiority... of inferior creatures... is an inferior way of seeing things.... Should our brains attack our stomachs because the brain is more "Apparently".. remarkable? These seals are likely intelligent and feal complex pain or joy... Any dignified human being ought to honor the dignity of these creatures. I'm not for outright banning things unless I really understand it well.. but I'd like to think that the best of human oversight is applied to the ideas I've mentioned.

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal

Seals are such precious creatures and this seal hunting should be banned everywhere.

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal
1 point

well, seal hunting wouldn't be the most fun sport since it's done with a club and out in the ball icing cold.

it's done for money, and it's a shit load of money, guys.

but even if it was for fun, as long as it's controlled so we don't run out i don't see a problem with showing our physical strength over the irrational, inferior animals.

Side: Seal hunting should be legal
1 point

Sir, if Canadian fishermen kill 300.000+ seals every year, and 98% of these seals are less than 3 months old, making the amount of seals less than 3 months old approx. 294.000, this means that more than 300.000 seals are born every year. You stop killing those seals, and in a few years you'll have a gigantic seal-population decimating the sea-life. These seals need to die, for the protection of both the marine life and the seals themselves.

Side: Seal hunting should be legal
Spoonerism(831) Disputed
1 point

Why is it people's job to regulate the environment? Shouldn't we let it regulate itself? Survival of the fittest at its finest.

Side: Seal hunting should be illegal
1 point

Inuit had hunted seal for their own sustinance for hundreds of years before the Europeans arrived, and they still do it, sustainably, today. No idea about who the people in the seal clubbing videos are, but they definitly aren't Inuit hunters. Unfortunatly, it's those hunters who are currently being harmed by the overreaching and sickening publicity campaigns against seal hunting, and they would be the ones worst hit if seal hunting was to become illegal. Get your facts straight before calling for an outright ban on killing those cute cuddly baby seals you see in the PETA videos.

Side: Seal hunting should be legal
1 point

Must be easy to not have to ever get your hands dirty to simply survive. I travel to the ice floes every year to help in the hunt because the family I have up their need to eat. I want you to take a good hard look at how much you pay for groceries and ask yourself if you can afford some of the following prices.

Case of water bottles(24x)- $105.99

Apple- $7 ea.

Bell pepper-$16.75 ea.

watermelon- $7 to $8 per kg

Cauliflower- $8 ea.

Jam- $16 for 500 ml jar

Chicken- $6 per kg.

Milk- $10 per L

Concentrate juice- $5 ea.

Case of 12 pop- $82

I go up to hunt because, my nieces would go hungry if I did not. Those "cute" baby seals feed more per kill than adults because each shot I fire is $120 worth of food I can buy them. An adult isn't bad by any stretch, I mean you eat it raw, every part is edible, the fur turns into a coat/blanket/warming device, the bones are made in to decorations or toys for the kids, but the meat lasts a week tops till its all eaten.

Before you go on about how humans are not naturally part of the environment, my people have lived there for thousands of years. Before you mention declining populations remember that in the 1950's populations were a little less then 2 million, they are now over 8 million. Before you demand we give up a food source go a few days without eating tell me how that feels. Before you say "If life's so hard up there, then leave." everyone's life is hard, but we don't abandon our home just because things get tough.

Side: Seal hunting should be legal