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 Trans men/women are NOT real men/women! (19)

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Trans men/women are NOT real men/women!

I am a gay individual. However, I do not support and I’m not part of the lgbt community. I do not agree with their ideologies. With that being said, I do not support nor do I believe that trans men and women are real men and woman. If you were born a female, you are a female, as you still have female parts and vice versa. If you have to get a surgery to change your gender, you are not a real man/woman. 

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Change my mind…

Hello R:

I'm not here to change your mind.. I'm here to laugh at you.

Bwa, ha ha ha ha ha..

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RoyaltyHQ(16) Disputed
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Ahahahah ouch, the internet thug can only be tough behind a screen ahahahahaha. So Ms., is your opinion supposed to hurt my feelings? Ahahahahahaha

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I feel this ongoing topic is simply settled.

Anyone with male genitalia is a ''real'' biological man.

Those with female genitalia, and able to give birth are ''real'' biological women.

Those who identify as being the opposite of their physical state should have their condition accepted and treated with the same respect and dignity as everyone else.

RoyaltyHQ(16) Disputed
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I agree 100% with what you’re saying. I don’t support the idea. However, I do accept individuals as they are. I just don’t accept or support the idea of being attacked by the lgbt community for not wanting to support those who are trans and want everyone to believe that they are real men/women, when in fact they are not.

Pench(841) Disputed
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I guess what can become contentious here is how we describe ''a real woman, or a real man''.

As I have already stated I am of the opinion that anyone who has female genitalia, can carry an unborn child in pregnancy and give birth is a real woman.

Someone who was born with the external and internal sex organs of a male and can impregnate a female is, biologically speaking, a 'real man'.

It's almost always a doctor who declares the sex of a new born baby.

The doctor's determination is based what the bodies of newly born babies look like. At that stage that's all he/she has to go on.

The gender issue can become more complicated when we consider that there are those who live as both male and female and who are classified as non-binary or genderqueer.

Everyone has a gender identity. Most people never think about their gender identity as it is compatible with their sex at birth.

Just as it is with religion there is no one way to be transgender.

Everyone's experience with religion is uniquely personal.

Then, on the other side of the coin it cannot be logically argued that a white person can become black because they identify as being black.

ANOTHER STRONG ARGUMENT AGAINST THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE CONDITION OF BEING A TRANSGENDER AS NORMAL IS AGE.

JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE WHO IS, LET'S SAY 80 YEARS OF AGE IDENTIFIES AS BEING 18 DOESN'T ALTER THAT PERSON'S TRUE AGE OR ENABLE THEM TO BREAK FREE FROM THE SHACKLES OF THEIR AGE RELATED RESTRICTIONS OR DISABILITIES .

All this leads us into the misty-world of psychology and psychiatry where we try to realize that mind and matter are not always in unison.

No need to change your mind as you are 100% correct.

Also, I would like to add:

If you were born with a dick, you ain't a chick and if you were born with a pie, you ain't a guy.

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Exactly! However, we try telling that to these lgbt members, and they literally condemn you for not believing what they want you to believe.

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Trans men/women are NOT real men/women!

You sound like a sick ASPD sociopath who touches farm animals inappropriately at the zoo and zoo animals inappropriately at the farm and thinks the most inappropriate part is that zoo animals are at the farm and vice versa.

RoyaltyHQ(16) Disputed
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Ahahahahahahahahaha It sounds like you have herpes in your arse.

Pench(841) Clarified
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Don't be too annoyed, it's only NOMSHIT.

HE'S BEEN INFESTING THIS SITE FOR YEARS.

HighFalutin(3402) Clarified
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Based on what?

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RoyaltyHQ(16) Clarified
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What based on what?

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sure, but neither are cis men/women

TangoAndCash(16) Disputed
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It's way easier to just say "normal" when referring to the general populace. Sisdaflanacoupadoopa isn't necessary and was proven to not be necessary during the 10,000+ years of human history where no one would have known what the fuck you were talking about. "I'm a sis male". No I'm just a male. You creating a language for children doesn't mean my adult ass has to subscribe to the bullshit.

Jace(5222) Disputed
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'cis', 'normal', idgaf. i throw it all out w/ the bathwater. im an abolitionist w/ no use for anyone's gender constructs. as for u, i never suggested u have to do jack shit.

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I guess sex changing surgeries have never been prohibited, so why such racist conclusions? In my humble opinion it doesn't matter what religion you follow or where you live, you can still read https://websta.me/online-dating-advantages-for-men/ and try to find your partner to live happily ever after with. After all, the major problem for many are rigid beliefs, right?

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Hello, I agree trans people are not biologically their desired gender. HOWEVER, there have been studies that show trans people have brain structures similar to people of the their desired gender. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm

so I am personally of the belief that trans people are their desired gender, however they are not biologically any sex other than what they were born as!