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Transgender Is Normal And Ok, OK?
That's how I see it. But I have a friend in this situation. On Facebook I see so much hate against Transgender people. They call them freaks and I hate it...
I'll tell my story later. For now, I wanna see where this debate goes.
Technically, transgender people constitute a relatively small minority of any given population which makes them statistically deviant from the average person... in other words, abnormal. However, there are a lot of people who would technically be abnormal for some reason and in fact the very concept of "normality" is suspect.
I think the more relevant point is that it is not unnatural nor morally wrong in any regard, or at least there is no evidence to bear out the opposing claims.
Eh, not exactly. I honestly do not place any value upon the notion of "normalcy", and therefore it is less of an "at least" and more of a "duh" to me, if that makes sense. I also know of nothing wrong with being transgender, so why would I not accept people who are?
P.S. Not all trans people identify as he/she so using that may not be the most accurate way to reference them. I like to use the neutral they, or he/she/they if I am concerned about offending someone who feels strongly about being addressed by a binary pronoun.
Oh... I had some subject-noun disagreement. For some reason I did not think you meant yourself when you said "I", but that you were paraphrasing what I said (or something like that). I have no idea why I read it that way...
I am also slightly confused... does this person identify as female or male? It sounds like maybe they identify as female, based on what you've said... in which case you would be calling her a she and it would be more respectful to do so consistently rather than sometimes (unless that would be outing them... I do not really know the full situation, nor do I need to by any means).
Yes, sorry. I'm just used to calling her a he because everyone else does. He is physically a boy but he identifies as a girl. He shaves and when his parents aren't around, he wears skirts. I've never seen him come to school in a skirt because his parents want him to be a boy. Now he's in Therapy and the Mental Hospital or maybe just the Mental Hospital. He's actually been there since last Friday and still hasn't contacted us back or anything so we don't know how he's doing. I barely know him but he's awesome and I'm really worried!
Shit. Well, not hearing from her is not necessarily a bad sign; outside contact is usually pretty limited since removing that distraction and interference is usually part of the deal. Still, the not knowing sucks. I do not know her myself at all, except through what you have related, but I hope she pulls through it all okay. Not having supportive parents can be incredibly painful and hard to work through, on top of how awful people in general can be. Having people like you around who do try at the pronouns and do not attack them for being who they are, even if you are not very close, can make a real difference though.
Update: I just found out he - I mean she's been home now but she still isn't picking up her phone. The only one who knew today was her girlfriend but maybe she got her phone taken away and was visited by her girl?
Probably, and difficult though it may be sometimes we are not always in the best situation to help someone. The waiting and knowing can be hard, of course.
The Transgender Community has gained notoriety within the past 10 years that has helped promote tolerance. There is nothing abnormal about a transgendered person.
The situation is much worse than thou thinketh, for the lunatics are running the asylum when it comes to the english language. There are different definitions in different dictionaries for "notoriety", and uniquely there is no official institution designated for the english language as with other languages.
Nothing about being transgender hurts anyone, and there is no evidence that it is anything beyond a normal deviation in human gender. It's not strictly "normal" in the sense that only a minority of the population is transgender, but there is nothing wrong with it.
I think it's sick. My mind just won't accept it no matter how much I try to convince myself to be open minded about it. Assuming that i found nothing psychologically wrong about them, maybe if I met a few of them and was aware of their transgender status then I would be more accepting of it.
I didn't forget it. Rhetorical questions shouldn't have question marks, but the sentence should still start with a word which asks a question. Makes more sense.
That's really horrible and judgemental. They cannot help that they are mentally the opposite gender to the one that they were physically born with. It's easy for you to judge try walking a mile in their shoes. Dysphoria is a horrible thing and people like you who encourage people to bottle stuff up and suppress it are irresponsible.
Like I said, I try to accept it but my brain can't right now. What part of that, do you diphthongs not understand? I can't help that this is the way I am, so why do you shun me for it? You're being a hypocrite.
people like you who encourage people to bottle stuff up and suppress it are irresponsible.
Where in my post does it say that I want people to suppress their thoughts?
Bottle stuff up and suppress mean the same thing....why so redundant?
Leading psychological institutions actually only recognize gender dysphoria as a mental health condition, which requires that the person in question be suffering from psychological distress and dysfunction as result of their dysphoria; not all transgender people are diagnosable, and the identity itself is no longer pathologized.
I wonder, also, if you have similar feelings towards other diagnosable conditions? People with depression, say? Or anxiety? I ask because I wonder if the psychological aspect is actually as important as you feel it might be, or if your attitude perhaps has more to do with your unfamiliarity. (No judgement, by the way, just pushing into your response a bit.)
I think that the power meeting someone different can have on someone's reception of that type of person is incredibly interesting, from a psychological perspective. Not really going anywhere with that except to observe it I suppose...
You, like anyone else, are allowed to believe without having those beliefs challenged. The problem starts with you calling people sick because we try to be ourselves. Can you imagine yourself in a position like this? If you can, please do so. You'll probably start figuring out why we feel what we do. Hate us if you want, but please - PLEASE- don't go around assaulting us and inspiring others to do the same.
There is nothing wrong with acting like a girl if you are a boy, because there are no set restrictions (or at least there shouldn't be) for how someone should act based on their gender. If a five year old boy wants to play with dolls, there's no problem. If a 16 year old girl wants to shop in the "men's" section at a store, go ahead. If a 45 year old man wants to get his genitals removed and replaced with a female's, then it doesn't bother me- it's their body, they can change it all they want (as long as it's legal). The thing that bothers me about "transgender" is that if you are born with an X and Y chromosome, then you are male, a boy, a man, "him", etc. If you are born with two X chromosomes, then you are female, a girl, a woman, "her", etc. When a male says that he is a female, then it is scientifically incorrect. That's what bothers me about transgender people. There's no rulebook to follow for the way a gender acts, but if you are a female, then you are a female no matter what.
Uh huh, sure, it's normal and ok to mutilate yourself if you feel like the opposite gender is inside you trying to get out. Cut yourself enough and your "inner opposite gender" can be revealed. That's demons trying to rip you to pieces and leave you so scared or damaged that you want to kill yourself and send yourself to Hell.
Uh huh, sure, it's normal and ok to mutilate yourself if you feel like the opposite gender is inside you trying to get out. Cut yourself enough and your "inner opposite gender" can be revealed. That's demons trying to rip you to pieces and leave you so scared or damaged that you want to kill yourself and send yourself to Hell.
Uh huh, sure, it's normal and ok to mutilate yourself if you feel like the opposite gender is inside you trying to get out. Cut yourself enough and your "inner opposite gender" can be revealed. That's demons trying to rip you to pieces and leave you so scared or damaged that you want to kill yourself and send yourself to Hell.
Uh huh, sure, it's normal and ok to mutilate yourself if you feel like the opposite gender is inside you trying to get out. Cut yourself enough and your "inner opposite gender" can be revealed. That's demons trying to rip you to pieces and leave you so scared or damaged that you want to kill yourself and send yourself to Hell.
I will try my best to say this in a respectful way. I don't believe that transgender freaks. But in my opinion, it's not normal. Personally, I just don't like it when people try to be something that they aren't. There is a reason why females and males are made differently. I don't really like when boys "try" to be girls. and vice versa. A girl can never truly be a boy, and a boy can never truly be a girl, genetically and emotionally speaking.
As ælong as our society is the way it is, then it is okay. But i would rather see a cultural change than more transgender people. When you identify with another gender, it is not many that only feel like they need a penis og a vagina. They fell taht they fit in, in the norms, that we have forced on the genders. If we somehow can change our society, so you doesnt have to change gender to make wearing a dress okay, then that would be optimal
I don't think transgender is 'normal' or 'okay', as it is a mental illness that should be treated as such. However, it is isn't good to call someone a freak for something, especially if it's something they don't control.
Being “transgender” is a psychological thing, just like anorexia and bulimia. If you get a gender reassignment, you’ll regret it. Have I gotten one? No!
Oops, got me there, I was confusing transgender with bi-sexuality. In my opinion, transgender is not a form of deviant sexuality, just an unfortunate quirk of birth, I guess. I was a male trapped in a female's body for a long time, then I was born.
Being bisexual also isn't "greedy"; plenty of bisexuals practice fidelity. As with any sexuality it is also biologically determined and not ultimately a choice the way you seem to imply.
There is also nothing inherently "unfortunate" about being transgender, although it is most probably "unfortunate" that so many people and societies are ignorant and prejudiced against transgender people.
Why not trans-speciation? I'm sure you feel some confusion about being human or being a monkey. Maybe you need to let out your inner monkey and get a chimp-face transplant. It's normal because we are all descended from apes, right? That's why you feel that way so you need to fulfill your correct destiny and get you ape on and get your monkey out of that erroneous human skin, climb a tree and swing from vines and eat bananas.....be the real you. It's normal and you should also get money from the govt to help you do it because that's what the govt is for.
I thought about trying to treat the OP text as deserving a thorough response. Then I read what you wrote and realized I was wrong. Thanks for saving me the time. ;)
I generally try to view people such as him as instances where I can practice my anger management and ability to maintain a calm and civil tone regardless of the content I am responding to. I tried that for quite a while with him, and decided I just really didn't care about it anymore. It took too much time and effort to create legitimate, thorough responses to him, especially when he has not legitimately responded to anyone else.
So I figured I'd just start being honest instead :)
Hear, hear to that. I also try to practice not throwing shade back at people; it's good exercise if nothing else. Definitely a dead end experiment with Saintnow though...
Uh huh, sure, it's normal and ok to mutilate yourself if you feel like the opposite gender is inside you trying to get out. Cut yourself enough and your "inner opposite gender" can be revealed. That's demons trying to rip you to pieces and leave you so scared or damaged that you want to kill yourself and send yourself to Hell.
Why not? There's trans-racial people now. Ever heard of Rachel Dolezal? Personally, I identify as a distortion guitar pedal. All my life, I've wanted to turn a good sound into an even better, although head-splitting, obnoxious sound.