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Debate Score:463
Arguments:190
Total Votes:558
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Trump Vs Clinton Debate 2 - Who Won?

Trump Vs Clinton II



Did Trump do what he needed to do to live and fight another day, or did Hillary score a knock-out?


*******It appears we have some major league trollers down voting Trump supporters and upvoting Clinton supporters- SHAME ON YOU. As always, the left tries to game the system and cheat; it's just what they do.************

Trump Won

Side Score: 215
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Clinton Won

Side Score: 248
3 points

Damn it HF you got the Democrats all stirred up. Job well done my man.

Side: Trump Won

Looks like a bunch of them came along and down voted the Trump supporters, but it's clear Trump won last night, even the fly confirmed this fact; look at who it landed on: Hillary. It knows bullshit when it smells it. lol

Side: Trump Won
suhhhhan(19) Disputed
8 points

Obviously you were joking when you talked about the fly as an indicator, but for the sake of argument can you clarify exactly how it was clear Trump won?

Side: Clinton Won

That looked like the same Old Testament devil fly that kept trying to get up Obama's nose.

Side: Trump Won

The typical liberal narrative goes as follows:

Take a handful of eccentril, ambitious, relentless supporters and have them give off the impression of her actually having support unlike her rallies that have dead space with no people at the events. I saw one where they had a sign that said for Hillary supporters to show up at such and such time. So the sneaky reporter snuck by at that time, and the coordinators began getting ants in their pants knowing their empty event was being filmed.

Side: Trump Won
jeffreyone(1367) Clarified
3 points

I hate down voters so much. I never did that before but they keep doing to me

Side: Trump Won

There are scoundrels abroad tonight.

An army of vote rigging bounders trying to sabotage the democratic process.

They have of course shot themselves in both feet as the culprits are clearly Democrats.

Side: Trump Won

It looks like they have mastered the down button. Perhaps they could master how to look into Clinton's miles long scandal list.

Side: Trump Won

They need stirred up. Why? They are about to hand our country off to the most corrupt American politician of all time. That doesn't work for me.

Side: Trump Won
3 points

I'm guessing you haven't actually studied American history, right?

Because to call her the most corrupt American politician of all time ignores the politicians who were actually, legally corrupt.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/lists/most corruptpoliticians/george-ryan.html

Here's a basic list that shows you what legitimate corruption looks like. Hyperbole serves you no good.

Side: Clinton Won
3 points

Trump, obviously. The usual post debate polls found on most of the leftist sites weren't active. They knew they lost, and they lost bad.

Side: Trump Won
3 points

Trump hell to the yes make fuckin america great again he won this debate and everyone knows he did so lets go trump!!!!!

Side: Trump Won
2 points

Trumps shrewd business acumen and tenacity placed Hillary on the defensive when it should have been the other way around.

Trump's resilience and business salesmanship meant that he eclipsed Hillary whilst he wiped the floor with her in every respect

Side: Trump Won

She never seems like she even knows what he's talking about. She's like "TPP is bad? Why? Me no know about trade agreements. Me only know how to steal and lie..."

Side: Trump Won
1 point

I hope they lock her up and put her behind bars where she belongs so that she cannot hurt anyone ever again.

Side: Trump Won

Trump won. Why? He kept her on the defensive and at this point she's being incircled by the fact her public comments contradict her private comments. This has taken away her magic "Trump lives in a fantasyland" deflection.

Side: Trump Won
IAmSparticus(1517) Clarified
4 points

What made you think she was on the defensive, and how are her comments about her private stances "encircling her"? Her approval ratings haven't moved at all, and unlike Trump, she isn't facing a party that is refusing to fund raise for her, being disinvited by the Speaker of the House, and is being called to step down by a number of sitting House and Senate members.

Side: Trump Won
7 points

1)He attacked things that are political death on her part. She attacked his word choice. She married a man with worse sexual choice making. I could see the look of terror in her and Bill's eyes on several occassions.

2)Seeing we now know her private stances as per wikileaks, it's safe to say her supporters do not actually really know where she stands on any issue. On TPP she has said she's now against it. In wikileaks she has to push TPP or combat her own lobbyist support. So is she lying to them or to the American people. It's an issue that actually affects every one of us in a big way.

Side: Clinton Won
2 points

You'll need to look at anonymous polls. They show he has a monstrous lead. The non anonymous liberal polls, well...we both know the media is as useful as a condom still in the wrapper. Look at her rallies. Why is she bussing people inand still having no one at her rallies? Youknow why. You drank the liberal koolaid.

Side: Trump Won

Trump won. How do we know? The look on Bill Clinton's face when Trump went after his dirty sex scandal laundry. What is sad is I was surprised Trump only had a few of the victims. That list is huge. Look up Bill Clinton sex scandal on a google search. That well runs deep for Trump. He could introduce a victim a day so people could get to know them and just how many there really are.

Side: Trump Won

Just out-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LGX39Bxx5Q

She also lost when WikiLeaks showed that she gave up classified info on how we killed Osama Ben Laden.

Side: Trump Won

The extent of her reckless disregards for rules is breathtaking.

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Side: Trump Won

Hillary lost when she proved she was not the champion of minorities by calling Muslims sand n-----s per wikileaks and frauded the people of Haiti out of billions in aid promised by the Clinton Foundation. Years later the place still looks like a hell hole.

Side: Trump Won

All I saw was a Hillary Clinton that?

Did not want to discuss the mishandling of classified information.

Did not want to discuss having an illegal server to bypass the freedom of information act.

Did not want to discuss her arming and backing ISIS.

Did not want to discuss Bill's sexcapades or her assault on his plethera of victims.

Did not want to talk about TPP which she rejects in public, at least this week, but supports in private per wikileaks.

Did not want to talk about Her globalist agenda per open borders per wikileaks.

Did not want to talk about the danger of thousands of Syrian refugees flooding into Europe and America causing violence, rape, and anarchy in every European country they enter to the point of civil uprisings to stop it in those countries.

Side: Trump Won
2 points

Did not want to discuss the mishandling of classified information.

Did not want to discuss having an illegal server to bypass the freedom of information act.

She did discuss it, and appologized for it. There's nothing else she could have said about it while still being a smart politician.

Did not want to discuss her arming and backing ISIS.

She didn't.

Did not want to discuss Bill's sexcapades or her assault on his plethera of victims.

No shit, she isn't Bill Clinton.

Did not want to talk about TPP which she rejects in public, at least this week, but supports in private per wikileaks.

She did discuss it.

Did not want to talk about Her globalist agenda per open borders per wikileaks.

"globalist agenda" really is meaningless. She did discuss immigration and trade.

Did not want to talk about the danger of thousands of Syrian refugees flooding into Europe and America causing violence, rape, and anarchy in every European country they enter to the point of civil uprisings to stop it in those countries.

Probably because that isn't happening, and isn't going to happen.

Side: Clinton Won

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Rz5Sslems

This is the same Hitlery Rotten Klingon that gathered billions to "help the Haitians". They never saw their money, were furious, and now do not want her taking advantage of them again during their new tragedy.

Side: Trump Won

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/09/heres-who-won-the-debate-according-to-the-internet/

Looks like Trump won. The liberal diehards are living in Never Never Land. Plus? I actually saw the debate. It was like nothing I have ever seen. Not only did he win, it was no contest. The look on Bill's greedy, snively, corrupt face was worth millions. Millions!!!!!

Side: Trump Won
2 points

So, "according to the internet" is enough for you to believe something is true?

Side: Clinton Won
1 point

No.... watching the debate in real life is enough for me to believe something is true.

Side: Trump Won

Not only did Trump win...It wasn't even close...He was beating her into the ropes the entire night.

Side: Trump Won

Trump won this debate, hands down. He did what he should have done in the first debate- practiced, and it showed. He had Hillary on her heels and called it like it was regarding her lying, email escapades, her lack of accomplishments, her trashing of victims of Bill's sexual exploits; it was a slam-dunk.

Winner- Trump

Loser - Hillary

Side: Trump Won

Everything considered Big Don came out the winner by a short head.

His, ''attack is the best form of defense'' strategy put Hillary onto the ropes early on in the contest and she was unable to slug her back into the scrap.

Her feigned indignation over Trump's machiso remarks about his female conquests made her look and sound childish.

She tried, unsuccessfully to give the impression that butter wouldn't melt in her mouth, or anywhere else for that matter.

Who does she think she's kidding?

Unfortunately, our Donald's remarks have made him unpopular with many female groups so I'm afraid he ain't going to win, but nobody is ever going to forget him.

He has made his mark in history.

Side: Trump Won

The longer the debate went on, the more her face looked like she might pass her giant terd.

Side: Trump Won

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bup1FKIdLNY

Per wikileaks, Hillary is going to get rid of the 2nd Amendment per executive order.

Side: Trump Won

Hillary is a traitor to the United States of America.

http://youtu.be/pOWebCMpSio

Side: Trump Won

Some Hillary supporter explain to me how you can vote for THIS

http://youtu.be/WLtxm3v6KwY

Side: Trump Won
1 point

A weird thing, just saying. Not attaching meaning. But man, its interesting.

Donald Trump was born on June 14, 1946.

If you move ahead 70 years from that date, that brings you to June 14, 2016.

Moving forward another seven months brings you to Jan. 14, 2017.

And moving forward another seven days brings you to Jan. 21, 2017.

And if Donald Trump wins the election, Jan. 21 will be his first full day in office. Also note worthy a day in the Hebrew Calander goes evening to morning. Trump would be inaugurated on Jan. 20, but he would only be president for part of that day.

So that means that Donald Trump would be 70 years, seven months and seven days old on his first full day as president of the United States.

And this would happen during year 5777 on the Hebrew calendar.

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/60976-if-donald-trump-wins-he-will-be-70-years-7-months-and-7-days-old-on-his-first-full-day-in-office

Side: Trump Won
0 points

Trump definitely won what must have been the ugliest such debate ever to take place.

It was a pitiful and saddening sight observing the two contenders for the Presidency of the greatest and mightiest nation on earth down in the gutter squabbling like silly adolescents and having to defend conduct which was more or less the indefensible.

Pray tell me my American cousins, were these two the best the United States could come up with?

Side: Trump Won
IAmSparticus(1517) Clarified
3 points

What makes you think he "definitely" won?

Side: Trump Won
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
7 points

Hillary is definitely a loser and 30 years of political life shows she is. How many scandals have surfaced under the Clinton's ? What is Hillary's love for Muslims ? Maybe the money they pour into the Clinton Foundation ? Hillary is DISASTROUS !

Side: Clinton Won
6 points

When they panned back and forth from Trump to Bill's guilt ridden face during the early roll around in the mud round.

Side: Clinton Won
4 points

Because the longer it went along, the more we expected to see them role her off in a wheelchair or toss her a walker. Nevertheless, the Obama fly was an omen, she looked well beyond nervous, wikileaks has turned every word she hisses be an apparent lie by default. When you have a private position vs a public position...no one takes you seriously anymore. The end.

Side: Clinton Won
Winklepicker(1020) Clarified
3 points

What makes you think that he didn't?????????????????????.........................

Side: Trump Won
-1 points

Trump was obviously the clear winner.

He said everything Americans have been wanting to hear about these decades of Clinton scandals.

He had the guts to do what Romney, Mc'cain, Bob Dole, and many of these establishment Republicans refused to do. These boring phonies refused to take a stand against this sickness of political correctness, and say it like it is.

All these estblishment politicians are afraid to say anything that the liberal media would attack them for.

Trump says it LIKE IT IS! He's spending his own money on this campaign and is not beholden to big money corporations.

He is every thing this nation desparatedly needs and have always said they want.

But what we all know is that the majority of the electorate now wants someone to resdistribute our tax dollars into their lazy dependent pockets.

I'm not talking about the disabled, the elderly or the truly needy. I'm talking about the many able bodied people who refuse jobs to stay on the dole.

Our entire Government now worries about offending those who want free stuff. They should be worried about offending the middle class tax payers.

Side: Trump Won
nobodyknows(745) Disputed
5 points

Technically Trump says it like it isn't. Supporting evidence: http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ donald-trump/

Save your bandwidth if your only response is to whine about liberal media bias.

Side: Clinton Won
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
4 points

You are showing politifact as a source. What kind of source is that ? Left Leaning ?

Side: Trump Won
2 points

There's a difference between mis speaking/"leading facts" vs demonstrative lies with malicious intent. Hillary is guilty of the latter.

Side: Trump Won

Was it even a contest? I got the feeling towards the end that the score was 77-10 in the 4th quarter. She looked like a beaten and drowned rat...

Side: Trump Won
12 points

Clinton won "hands down".

"Her e-mails"?? State Department foreign affairs manual (5 FAM 443-5) Allows it's employees to delete those which are personal and to determine which are work related. "Messages that are not records may be deleted when no longer needed."

Her lawyers (not her), made those decisions and deleted them and there is NO evidence that she knew they were deleted after the subpoena was issued.

If Donald Trump has the right to follow government rules to keep from paying the taxes WE have to make up for, SHE has the same right to follow government rules.

Fact checkers have shown Trump lied about many more things than HRC ... who, it was said, "slightly exaggerated" a couple of points. The lies and "crookedness" came from Trump.

Side: Clinton Won
GuitarGuy(6095) Disputed
3 points

Doesn't it get exhausting trying to defend Hillary? Thirty years in politics, and yet she claims that she did not know what the "C" on classified files stood for. What, is she an idiot? Was that really her excuse? Sowwy, I dumb. Actually, that phrase is more fitting for anybody who believes her mind-numbing, pneumonia-inducing, bullshit excuses. I haven't received much classified info in my life, but I imagine upon initial review, I'd be able to tell whether or not the info should be shared with non-authorized individuals, "C" or not.

Let's not pretend she is a good candidate. She's not. She's probably the most scandalous candidate of your lifetime, and certainly mine... Although, her husband was pretty scandalous, with his impeachment and whatnot.

Side: Trump Won

It makes me wonder how many things she'll "not understand" or "not know", then screw up beyond repair when/if President.Hillary: "Well...I didn't know the button would fire nukes at Russia."

Side: Trump Won

It seems like it would be very exhausting. The reason I think it is not exhausting is that most of them are not actually aware of her scandals or how they have destroyed and weakened this great country.

Chinagate? Helped the Chinese. Hurt us. She got rich.

Emailgate? She's literally guilty of treason against the United States. She leapfrogged the freedom of information act. She got rich.

Haiti? She gathered up billions to help Haiti. They never saw the money and are furious.

etc etc

And it goes all the way back to when she was 27 where her boss said, and I quote, "She is untrustworthy and a liar..."

Side: Trump Won

C doesn't stand for cat? She thought it stood for cat. Okay? lmao

Side: Trump Won

Liberals don't care about the emails or Trump's comments. It's all a guise for political gain, a push of a globalist worldview over nationalism, mainly...social control.

Side: Clinton Won
1 point

Wait, you actually believe that tens of millions of people from all walks of life are united in a cynical desire for political control to the extent that they fake an entire political ideology?

The fuck?

Side: Trump Won
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
2 points

Damn you Democrats are hung on fact checkers and taxes. Why did Hillary have a home brew server in Colorado ?

Side: Trump Won

To...use for personal gain while staying clear of the freedom of information act?

Side: Trump Won

Yeah check out snopes. Their main writer was a liberal tabloid writer on steroids before joining. And? The owners of snopes look like no baking soda has hit those teeth in many a decade.

Side: Trump Won

And usually their fact checker needs fact checked. Clinton News Network isn't a fact checker. This is the same network that uses green screen in studio to look like its crews are in war zones.

Side: Trump Won
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
2 points

Who were Hillary's lawyers ? You have their names and their credentials

Side: Trump Won

Apparently James Comey and Loretta Lynch were on Hillary's legal team....

Side: Trump Won
2 points

And apparently Barack Obama and the Department of Justice per WikiLeaks...

Side: Trump Won
2 points

She would have had Hitler and Stalin defending her if she could. Or...I could be wrong.. perhaps even Hitler wouldn't be able to stand that fly attracting stench..

Side: Trump Won
2 points

Re: "Clinton won "hands down".

And then you woke up to reality. lol

Side: Trump Won

The look on Bill's face wasn't one of victory. It looked more like "My God my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

Side: Trump Won

The whole system is being gamed. The sheeple are supporting a woman who is opposite of everything she says in public per wikileaks. The President is mocking Trump's supporters, and all while the world is warning us that our President is a terrorist and creator intentionally of ISIS. Hillary could eat a live baby on tv and they would bow before her. It's become a mindless zombie cult.

Side: Trump Won

Sadly I don't think liberals will ever wake up. They are busy watching the View and MSNBC while ignoring how liberalism has demonstrably destroyed and divided Europe.

Side: Trump Won
2 points

There's a big difference between stating not fully accurate comments and lying. Hillary lies, meaning? She makes up a deliberate, demonstrably false narrative with intent of knowingly lying.

A Trump "lie", is "Hillary has been fighting ISIS her entire adult life". Sure technically not fully true, but just a mis-speak based on emotion.

A Hillary lie is, "It's your baby."

Side: Trump Won
10 points

I mean. It's more that Trump lost rather than Hillary won. He did not do well enough to make up for the losses he suffered from the recently leaked video from 2005 in which he brags about his failed seduction of a married woman and his penchant for sexual assault. Instead of addressing this issue he made the attempt to associate Hillary with Bill Clinton's alleged mistreatment of women. It seemed like he was trying the adolescent excuse: "He did it too! Why am I the only one being punished?"

As far as the rest of the debate went it became painfully apparent how easily Trump was distracted and how thin skinned he is. Any question of which he was not the first to answer he was unable to resist going off topic to bring the conversation to faults of his opponent or the current administration. The very first question was about the conduct of the nominees as role models for children and he changed the subject to "we don't win anymore." When he was asked if he has committed sexual assault his answer was "Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, no I haven't, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton."

The worst low for Trump was his announcement that he would appoint a special prosecutor to look into Hillary's email scandal and that she would be in jail if he were president. The devolution of our political culture to the status of an Eastern European democracy is now complete.

Side: Clinton Won
2 points

I don't think anyone actually cares. Liberals defended Bill Clinton like a mantra prior to the days of Trump saying that Bill's sexual choices had nothing to do with his ability to be President. The politicians that drop him then bounce back. Any "drops" are the politics of them not being sure whether supporting him publically is good or bad for their own career. Cruz was gone then back, then gone then back. It's meaningless. The people were unmoved.

Side: Trump Won
2 points

Hillary lost in the first debate when she shook her head, said "whew!", Lester Holt said "she's alright." and Trump mouthed "seizure".

Side: Trump Won
2 points

so.....Since when do liberals think what you do and say sexually behind closed doors is anyone else's business or has anything to do with politics. I smell bs....deluxe...

Side: Trump Won
nobodyknows(745) Disputed
2 points

I can't speak for liberals since I lean more libertarian but I will say that it is unacceptable for Trump to be a role model in any way for this country's youth. Personally I find his racist remarks regarding the Indiana judge and his blanket ban on Muslims more offensive than this episode but I'll take anything I can as ammunition against Trump.

Side: Clinton Won
1 point

Hillary lost when she interviewed outside her plane and looked like she was stoned, then as if she was going to have a full blown stroke.

Side: Trump Won
nobodyknows(745) Clarified
1 point

The problem with that is no one knows what you are talking about. Brietbart may have covered the story you are talking about but no one else did. I hardly think anyone could say Hillary is losin at this point, Trump is hemorrhaging republicans on a unprecedented scale.

Side: Trump Won
9 points

eah....it's beginning to look as if Trump will probably have to withdraw as the GOP candidate. He is self-destructing worse and worse every day. Last night's debate proved there is no way in Hell this idiot can ever by President.

Mark my words...he will go down in history as a joke. They'll probably even invent a term after him, like "Trumpian" for when some future candidate says something totally outlandish that proves him to be unworthy of office.

This is how insanely bad Trumpy is. Among his gaffs Sunday night....

suggesting that as president he would jail his opponent; defend Vladimir Putin and Russia over the hacking of the U.S. election;

praise brutal Syrian tyrant Bashar Assad;

admit to not paying federal income tax; and rebuke his own running mate for daring to criticize Russia over the indiscriminate bombing of Syrian civilians.

That's a very partial list.

Trump also lied with enthusiastic regularity, again saying he opposed the second Iraq war before it started (he didn't), claimed his opponent would jack up the tax rate on the middle class (she says she won't) and protested that he did not Tweet at 3 a.m. that people should check out a sex tape featuring a former Miss Universe (he did).

And never mind that Trump spent the first portion of the debate apologizing for a video leaked over the weekend in which he grotesquely bragged about his ability to commit sexual assault because he's a "star." Diving deeply into the gutter, Trump tried to turn the video into a bizarre bank shot attack on Clinton by bringing to the debate women who claim former President Bill Clinton sexually abused them.

Wow...what a douche bag. I will be happy when he resigns soon. I am guessing in about two weeks or so.

Remember where you heard it.

Side: Clinton Won
2 points

If you think Trump will resign, you are terribly misinformed or not informed on Trump. He's an entertainer and a fighter. He'll toss a grenade into politics and set the house on fire as he leaves if she beats him. That's his style. He's playing the biggest game of "you're hired you're fired" ever seen in the history of tv.

Side: Trump Won
2 points

Trump's words or Hillary's deeds? hmmmmm......

Assad is like Sadaam, not good but not replaceable. The people he is fighting are worse. This administration's policy of overthrowing governments is suicide and has destabilized the area. Russia is trying to prevent the anarchy and chaos the U.S. is so well known for creating. They are tired of having to fill our vacuums. This is the one time in recent history that Russia is in the right. Obama is going to start WWIII over trying to protect ISIS and overthrow yet another government, meanwhile Obama is giving us over to the United Nations. It will not be long and we will no longer be a sovereign nation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjeNkse02UU

Side: Trump Won
1 point

Or? We can go by the naturalistic answer, meaning?

1)The anonymous non liberally biased polls say she's not only getting beat, but getting blasted.

2)His rallies are huge. Her rallies are tiny with no support, and sheactually is bussing in the people in her tiny crowds. Either she has no actual substancial support and we are being fed a false narrative on said issue, or...her "supporters" may not care that much.

3)What we know with Trump is his supporters actually show up and vote and in record numbers.

Side: Trump Won
_Sophia(1) Disputed
6 points

Are you kidding me?

1) Liberally biased polls? Let's take a look here...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/ latest polls/presgeneral/

Literally every single poll on there with the exception of USC Tracking has Clinton with a wide lead.

And USC Tracking notes very clearly that their polls use a different algorithm than the others, e.g bases things on which party's candidates the respondents voted for in previous elections, which is a mistake in an election where people are ditching party affiliation in droves.

2) The size of rallies is irrelevant to a candidate's success. Clinton is among many leaders in the past and present who is simply not trying to maximize rally attendance, instead relying on micro-management and organization. Recent examples of people who won elections despite low rally turnout - Justin Trudeau of Canada, Barack Obama (2012), George W. Bush (2004).

The best predictor of a candidate's success in history has been, sorry, polling. It has evolved over time for that very purpose.

3) What we know about Clinton is that her supporters are everyone else.

Side: Clinton Won
7 points

Clinton, and I already elaborated on FromWithin's debate of what he would be saying if he had been the debater in the 2nd debate.

But what you keep seeing demonstrated on this site is the Trump supporters absolutely refuse to acknowledge any scenario where he is behind or loses, and in that respect they're no different than the RNC website which declared Pence the winner even before the VP debate had started.

Trump went on the attack, appeasing his core supporters. But he bungled answering any questions on the topics asked, shared no plans or policies of his own, looked absolutely uncomfortable much of the time, and had insufficient answers to his sexist and other comments. His core supporters are not nearly enough votes to elect him, and he made no progress on gaining more. And fact checkers (see other debate I referenced) have already given almost all the confirmed truth to Clinton for that debate.

Side: Clinton Won
2 points

The same fact checker who interrupted Trump to fact check him letting him know that stop and frisk was "unconstitutional? Snopes, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC? All liberal diehards who will spin so called "fact checks" to direct a liberal narrative. If you are getting your news from mainstream media you probably do not know the Russians put up anti air defense in Syria to attack the U.S. and that wikileaks proved the media is bought off.

Side: Trump Won
Grenache(6103) Disputed
7 points

Conservatives label everything that isn't conservative as instead liberal and biased. I'll ask you what I've asked previously on this site. Can you give me a list of 10 publications I can get my news from which are neither liberal leaning nor conservative leaning? Seriously. Who is fair? Tell me.

Side: Clinton Won
2 points

Very hard, in my opinion you will fail on both candidates. Not many leaders now or ever have the best interest for the people. Fear drives democracy.

Side: Clinton Won
2 points

One wants globalism and open borders per wikileaks.

The other wants closed borders and nationalism.

One is dangerous to us. One protects us. This is an easy choice.

Side: Trump Won
1 point

Exactly, hence why Hillary will win :P

Side: Clinton Won
2 points

America will be exactly the same whoever wins. The American people won't decide who will win, that part is already done by the Banks, Pharmaceutical companies and the NRA. Your screwed like the rest of the world.

Side: Clinton Won