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Trump admitted he is against the 1st amendment and freedom of speech
The left wing social media sites are censoring media and people right now, and leftists block and attack anyone attending a non left wing event, so what's your point? That Trump's a leftist?
By the way, we can't click your link, so guess we will just assume what I typed above.
I did link it. Its the sites fault and not mine. It just doesn't work with links in regards to linking the actual video in the description of the debate. My god you really dont understand how websites work. I cant just magically make a link work if the website doesn't allow it. Clearly I put the link in. What else was I suppose to do?
There's four options you can go about here if you are a Trump supporter.
A: you can blindly ignore reality and pretend this doesn't go against the first amendment (Even though it factually is and even the supreme court ruled previously it is)
B: You can try and argue against free speech. (Which would be a fun argument to have actually)
C: You can cowardly pivot to the left without addressing the point.
I own it. The left suppresses speach with violence and deleting of facebook, twitter and youtube accounts. You thought this would change who's mind? A lizard in a box?
aaah Candace Owens. You mean the same person who openly talks about the white replacement theory on how immigrants are coming in and genociding white people. Candace "You know hitler wasn't such a bad guy" Owens. Candace "You know George Floyd was a terrible person" Owens. LAUGHABLE
aaah Candace Owens. You mean the same person who openly talks about the white replacement theory on how immigrants are coming in and genociding white people. Candace "You know hitler wasn't such a bad guy" Owens. Candace "You know George Floyd was a terrible person" Owens. LAUGHABLE
Cool. So give us some videos or proof of these exact quotes so we can analyze them and debate them.
Also Coulter is literally a white nationalist and also supports the bullshit conspiracy theory of "White replacement" and "White genocide" and was in favor of the patriot act. Considering her sort of rhetoric leads to right terrorist attacks, I think that's pretty justified. In b4 "Bu....but that's not free speech". For one im not in favor of the government silencing her. In fact if I found out tomorrow the government would be silencing right wing opinions id be against it but additionally again her rhetoric is dangerous and leads to innocent lives being killed.
Also Coulter is literally a white nationalist and also supports the bullshit conspiracy theory of "White replacement" and "White genocide" and was in favor of the patriot act.
Cool. I didn't realize a political label garnered the relinquishing of free speech. I say you're a white nationalist. No speech for you.
The left has invited terrorists and dictators to speak to college kids. Should we have killed them when they got off the plane? Do tell.
was in favor of the patriot act.
So were Democrats. Guess who wasn't. Me and Donald Trump.
id be against it but additionally against her rhetoric is dangerous and leads to innocent lives being killed.
I say Soros, Pelosi, and Schumer's speech leads to death. No speech for them either. Don't you love when your standards are applied to the left?
Cool. I didn't realize a political label garnered the relinquishing of free speech. I say you're a white nationalist. No speech for you.
Ooooh comin out with the strawman arguments I love it! My point was that I dont feel sorry for her because her rhetoric has been proven to cause terrorist attacks. Furthermore I said I wasn't in favor of the government silencing her speech. So what point are you trying to make?
So were Democrats. Guess who wasn't. Me and Donald Trump.
Okay? Im not defending the democrats? I dont even know why tf you even bothered to bring up the democrats. My point is that she was in favor of it. Good for Trump he's correct on something. I dont care about that.
I say Soros, Pelosi, and Schumer's speech leads to death. No speech for them either. Don't you love when your standards are applied to the left?
Again you're strawmanning me. I dont wanna silence anyone's speech through government force. Also you bring up those folks as if Im in favor of them. Which leads me to believe you have no idea who you're talking to. Though I am rather curious what sort of things have those people said that led to deaths.
Ooooh comin out with the strawman arguments I love it! My point was that I dont feel sorry for her because her rhetoric has been proven to cause terrorist attacks. Furthermore I said I wasn't in favor of the government silencing her speech. So what point are you trying to make?
1)Your speech causes terrorism and violence, so your speech needs censored. Oh, and check your privilege when you speak.
2)Name these terrorist events caused by Anne Coulter.
2) I didnt say Ann Coulter caused terrorist events, im saying her rhetoric has the potential to do so. The christ church shooter was influenced by Candace Owens for example and her rhetoric is similar to Ann Coulters.
So were Democrats. Guess who wasn't. Me and Donald Trump.
Okay? Im not defending the democrats? I dont even know why tf you even bothered to bring up the democrats. My point is that she was in favor of it. Good for Trump he's correct on something. I dont care about that.
By your standard, Obama and Biden orchestrated terrorism via speech, and they should be censored.
I dont wanna silence anyone's speech through government force.
Welcome to the Republican Party.
Also you bring up those folks as if Im in favor of them. Which leads me to believe you have no idea who you're talking to. Though I am rather curious what sort of things have those people said that led to deaths.
Obama used free speech to call ISIS the JV team. Soon after they had taken over countries and vast spreads of land throughout the Middle East and North Africa. They also began infiltrating Europe and the U.S. and committed terror attacks in mass. Theoretically this speech led to the Boston Marathon bombing, San Bernadino, Fort Hood, the Bataclan, the London bombing, and the list goes on and on.
Many Democrats use speech to demonize the police. Cop killings are on the rise and so are cops killing citizens.
Speech defending illegal aliens has led to gangs multiplying and killing people in the streets.
The point? By your standard, I could silence every leftist on planet Earth, and no one could stop me because "speech is violence" and speech can theoretically lead to violence... I could say that about any speech I dislike or that comes from a political opponent.
The same party that fucks over workers and shits on them while promoting capitalist business owners by handing out corporate welfare and promotes corporate socialism? The same party that has blood on their hands from killings tens of millions of innocent civilians in countries all over the middle east? The same party that wants to get rid of a womans right to decide what she can do with her own body? The same party that would promote a theocracy and wanna get rid of secularism which is what this country was founded on? The same party that wants to roll back protections and rights for gay and trans people? Yeaaaaah no thanks Im good. I despise the democrats as well but at least they're closer to my values. The republicans are too far gone in my eyes.
Obama used free speech to call ISIS the JV team. Soon after they had taken over countries and vast spreads of land throughout the Middle East and North Africa. They also began infiltrating Europe and the U.S. and committed terror attacks in mass. Theoretically this speech led to the Boston Marathon bombing, San Bernadino, Fort Hood, the Bataclan, the London bombing, and the list goes on and on.
Many Democrats use speech to demonize the police. Cop killings are on the rise and so are cops killing citizens.
Speech defending illegal aliens has led to gangs multiplying and killing people in the streets.
The point? By your standard, I could silence every leftist on planet Earth, and no one could stop me because "speech is violence" and speech can theoretically lead to violence... I could say that about any speech I dislike or that comes from a political opponent.
I wish the democrats were leftist trust me, but they aren't. They're more like a centrist party. Anyways again its pointless to bring up Obama. Obviously the dudes a piece of shit and I'd never defend him. My point is that when you talk about things like the "white replacement theory" and talking about "white genocide". You don't think thats going to cause people to act out in violent ways? Do you think what I say and what I promote is gonna lead to violence compared to someone who is far right right and talks about how white people are being replaced in their countries and language like that? What do you think is going to happen as a result of that?
Yet he used no executive authorities other than one on the production act to get ventilators quickly. The left arrested mothers playing with their kid, then told businesses they could never reopen.
Welcome to the party whose only supporters are liars, idiots and shitbags.
You lie all of the time, are an idiot, and are a shitbag. What are you talking about?
If you burn a flag or say/do anything they disagree with, then "punch 'em in the face", send them to jail for a year, etc.
Talk is cheap, especially seeing the left thinks silencing dissent is normal. We both know the right isn't physically censoring anyone, and we both know the left embraces censorship, violence, cancel culture, draconian measures, shoutdowns, "politicaly correct" speech, using force to stop right wing speakers, riots, looting, and burning down cities.
The left has no fear of a mass mob of conservatives destroying cities and rioting like psychopaths. You know it, and I know it.
Instead of being triggered by material related to sexual abuse, their trigger warnings are about nudity, gayness, or that big sky popa is as real as the tooth fairy, etc.
The right prefers driving cars into protesters, shooting them (and cops), tiki-torch marches, etc.
The left has killed many cops. The last claim of a right winger running into protesters was proven false. It was a teenage girl who they tried to pull out of her car window.
Instead of being triggered by material related to sexual abuse
The right has went after Biden and Clintonfor sexual abuse.
their trigger warnings are about nudity, gayness
I know no right wingers who care on any subtantive level about nudity or gayness. You're creating a strawman rather than attacking anything right wingers of any numbers actually say. When the left says it's pro gay, it clearly doesn't mean pro gay right winger. They've attacked them relentlessly, even to the point of violence and using fire bombs.
or that big sky popa is as real as the tooth fairy, etc.
That all Muslims and most left wingers believe in. The only reason to attack a god that Muslims and most leftists believe in is if you're a full blown, disingenuous bigot whose "tolerance" is a mask rather than any actual principled position that you take in real life.
"When the left says it's pro gay, it clearly doesn't mean pro gay right winger."
Do you think they attacked Milo because he was gay?
He was polemic on purpose and was attacked by conservatives (Ben Shapiro) for racist remarks and fired from Breitbart and others for what they asserted was support for pedophilia.
"The last claim of a right winger running into protesters was proven false."
It wasn't about one incident.
"Right-wing extremists are turning cars into weapons, with reports of at least 50 vehicle-ramming incidents since protests against police violence erupted nationwide in late May.
At least 18 are categorized as deliberate attacks; another two dozen are unclear as to motivation or are still under investigation"
And all the Trump-supporters who follow his lead by not wearing a mask.
I know libs get confused by the definition of "hypocrisy", but I'll give it a go anyway.
Ya see, when your party condemns anyone gathering, not social distancing, or not wearing a mask, then overlook it suddenly based on who is doing it, that makes your party hypocrites.
When your party doesn't condemn those things, your party are not hypocrites.
Leftists condemn it until it's them. Righties say go outside. Do what you want. It's your life.
Did I slow it down slowly enough? That is the real question...
The average number of cops feloniously killed between 2003 and 2018 was 51.25/yr. More than last year's total, and about what we are on track for this year.
Trump admitted he is against the 1st amendment and freedom of speech
Cool. Burning the flag isn't speech. It's a physical act consisting of no words that could violate burn ban laws, endangering a minor laws, destruction of property laws, illegal rioting, inciting a riot, etc.
It's like trying to say that banning the burning of buildings is a violation of the First Amendment because you don't like the building. Nope. It isn't.
Neverthless I support the right to disgrace the flag because once and if the left takes over, I might want to use it as toilet paper and light that baby on fire myself.
You know damn well as much as I do its the symbolism of flag burning which is whats being debated here. Thats clearly what Trump is against. Also freedom of speech also means freedom of expression you do realize that right?
Pretend I don't know, and tell me what it symbolizes.
It could mean either dissatisfaction with your government or even further to your overall country essentially.
Being against something is...free speech and...freedom of expression...
Okay now I realize who Im dealing with here. You're either very dishonest or very stupid. Perhaps a combination of both. Pick one or both. Now I know not to take you seriously though you fuckin clown.
So is punching a leftist in the head. Now what?
I didn't know burning a piece of cloth was equivalent to punching someone and thus causing harm to them. Very interesting. Love these false equivalences. I guess its fine if we outlaw certain art since its not "speech" in your book either.
Pretend I don't know, and tell me what it symbolizes.
It could mean either dissatisfaction with your government or even further to your overall country essentially
Cool. Seeing the left controls almost every megaphone and system in America, I suppose he unknowingly feels oppressed by a system controlled by leftists. Maybe he should burn it.
Cool. Seeing the left controls almost every megaphone and system in America, I suppose he unknowingly feels oppressed by a system controlled by leftists. Maybe he should burn it.
Cool. Seeing the left controls almost every megaphone and system in America, I suppose he unknowingly feels oppressed by a system controlled by leftists. Maybe he should burn it.
Trust me I wish this was the case
I'll list out some institutions. You prove they are more heavily occupied or controlled by more people from the right than occupied and controlled by the left.
Im talking about actual leftists. Not virtue signalling dipshits who only care about social issues to promote themselves. I do find it rather humorous however you listed Universities though. Yeah facts and reality tend to have a left leaning bias oof.
I do find it rather humorous however you listed Universities though. Yeah facts and reality tend to have a left leaning bias oof.
I find it humorous that you don't put together that if that is true, all of this student debt and predatory lending on loans was from the left who are now cleverly dangling the cancelling of the debt they created in front of other leftists as if the debt were a hostage negotiation, just to have saddled leftists with debt and a degree that yields less income than Conservatives on average. Looks like the joke is on the poor to middle class left, sponsored by the elites on the left.
Being against something is...free speech and...freedom of expression...
Okay now I realize who Im dealing with here. You're either very dishonest or very stupid. Perhaps a combination of both. Pick one or both. Now I know not to take you seriously though you fuckin clown.
If you didn't have an annoying personality to the point of it being like fingers on a chalkboard, you'd be harder to spot...but you do...
I didn't know burning a piece of cloth was equivalent to punching someone and thus causing harm to them.
Flag burners are known for both.
Very interesting. Love these false equivalences. I guess its fine if we outlaw certain art since its not "speech" in your book either.
It's your standard being applied, not mine. And the left is already banning art, from statues, to movies, to books, to any old African American image used by companies as logos such as Aunt Jemima on syrup and Uncle Ben on rice.
And people who are against flag burning are pro authoritarianism and fascism. I can play this game too.
It's your standard being applied, not mine. And the left is already banning art, from statues, to movies, to books, to any old African American image used by companies as logos such as Aunt Jemima on syrup and Uncle Ben on rice.
You literally just tried to make the argument freedom of expression isn't freedom of speech. So its actually your standard.
What a company does with their logo of their product is their decision. So if they wanna change it they can. Also chalking up the whole taking down statues as "banning art" is insanely disingenuous and has so much more context than that. You've already proven to be dishonest though sooo
They didn't fight a piece of cloth. Furthermore trying to ban flag burning is un american and trying to get rid of freedom of speech and expression is one of the key components of fascism and authoritarianism.
You really need to get better.
If I need to get better, then the person im debating needs to learn the basics.
And people who are against flag burning are pro authoritarianism and fascism. I can play this game too.
You can be against a certain type of speech and not support legislation to stop that speech at the same time.
What a company does with their logo of their product is their decision. So if they wanna change it they can.
Leftists want them removed. No more black logos because of the left.
Also chalking up the whole taking down statues as "banning art" is insanely disingenuous and has so much more context than that. You've already proven to be dishonest though sooo
Then why don't you have your minions burn down Yale Univesity since it's named after a slave owner and slave trader?
You can be against a certain type of speech and not support legislation to stop that speech at the same time.
Obviously im talking about the people wanting to ban that speech. No duh. A person would still say they support that persons right to burn the flag even if they disagree with that type of speech or expression.
Leftists want them removed. No more black logos because of the left.
Weren't you just saying that you can be against a certain type of speech and not support legislation in favor of it? Why cant you apply that same idea to those supposed leftists who want it removed?
Then why don't you have your minions burn down Yale Univesity since it's named after a slave owner and slave trader?
Or Yale can rename their university? Anyways I dont really care much about the statues either way and the same goes for certain buildings and what not named after slave owners. This is irrelevant to me.
Im not really all that interested in proving myself to you but if you really wanna know I was a user that went by the screen name of "animedude639". (cringey ass name but cut me some slack I was 13 at the time)
Due to your total misrepresentation of what President Trump actually said, as opposed to what you misleadingly alleged he said, you have lost all credibility and should not participate further debating this thread or engaging in future discussions.
Your fake news and falsification of the facts has disqualified you as a reliable source of information and exposed you as Democrat fact bender who is ready to warp the truth to suit your own invented false allegation.
