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Leftists are the biggest racists on Earth. Half of Obama's run around acquaintances openly hate whites and Jews. Liberals just act like nothing happened. Probably because when they say racism, it's because they're full of shit.
It does matter. The United States was united until Barack Obama was elected & taught liberals to hate people on the right.
He made it normal for the government to spy on us & to try & destroy the next President before they even are President, that is, if they aren't a Democrat.
The United States was united until Barack Obama was elected
Yes, and then we discovered how malicious and racist the American right really is. I remember in the early days Conservatives were literally threatening armed revolt.
& taught liberals to hate people on the right
Liberals are on the right too you dumb twit. In every single country in the entire world other than America, liberalism is a right wing ideology. That just demonstrates the grip that the far right has on American politics.
Have you ever heard of Operation Paperclip? Are you aware that many Nazi scientists were shipped over to the US after WW2 and given good jobs in places like NASA etc...? In fact, the guy who ran the American rocket program to the Moon used to run a factory in Germany where they would hang the five slowest Jews on a regular basis.
Hatred for the (far) right was well-established by the onset of WW2. The inauguration of Obama had little to do with it.
He made it normal for the government to spy on us
Oh shut up you annoying Russian shill. Have you never heard of Watergate? Nixon was wiretapping literally everybody he could as far back as the early 1970s.
Yes, and then we discovered how malicious and racist the American right really is.
I don't know any racists, & I live in America. Many of the people who voted for Trump voted for Obama. Are you sure that you aren't just imagining what you want to be true?
It was far from United. Half the population hated Bush, too.
If people on the left hate people on the right moreso now, it's not because Obama "taught" them to, it's because Obama brought to light the extent of the corruption within the GOP and the disdain which the right-wing has towards fact.
Obama is easily the most accomplished President America has ever had. And if he had had his way on all issues, the right wing morons would be a damn sight better educated and better informed about everything than they are at present.
Obama wanted to hold media to account for poor sourcing and referencing. The Republican Moron Party blocked it (free speech bullshit). Obama wanted to significantly restrict the ability of no-fly-listers to procure deadly weapons; the GOP and the NRA blocked it (freedom needs guns bullshit). Obama wanted to ban the teaching of creationism as scientific fact; the GOP blocked it (people should be able to teach whatever they like even if it contradicts known realities bullshit). Obama wanted and did open dialogue up with Cuba for trade, a move that hass significantly benefitted both countries; the GOP attempted to block it (they are our enemies bullshit). Obama wanted to give universal healthcare to all American citizens like most EUropean counties, Oz, New Zealand and even "impoverished Cuba" do; the GOP forced him to water it down into Obamacare.
At every stage anyone attempts to make Americans' lives and health better, safer, more civilised, the GOP have a problem with it. It was GOP members who supported big tobacco back when they were outright lying to the public. It's the GOP who block a public health inquiry by the CDC into gun crime and gun violence. It's the GOP who preserve the wealth inequality in the US. It's the GOP who are against unions and employment rights for the common citizen. It's the GOP who prop up corporations with massive corporate tax cuts and moan on about how it creates jobs. (We all know that corporations with profit-seeking shareholders will do anything to CUT costs, and that includes CUTTING STAFF).
It's the GOP who wanted to completely repeal Obamacare and replace it with what is essentially "only rich people get medical treatment". It's the GOP who refuse to enforce legal capped prices on medications. It's the GOP who refuse to enforce legal caps on medical procedure costs. It's the GOP who refuse to further fund public schools. It's the GOP who oppose a cap on tuition fees or socialised education.
And it is the young people of America who will inherit the world these absolute parasites leave behind; it's the young people who want change in the country.
Deliberate stupification of the populace is and has always been the aim of the right for reasons above: the preservation of the status quo and the oppression of the normal man. They know that if you have an aware, informed and educated public, you can't feed them bullshit.
Just look at the educational level of the states of the USA. Those of GOP majorities are almost always considerably less educated than those that aren't. Look at the common beliefs among a demographic. Why do GOP demographics have more people who deny climate change; deny the Earth is round; deny basic scientific facts like gravity?
Why do GOP states tend to have lower SAT scores, lower IQ's, and lower white collar employment?
Conservatives are, by and large, fucking idiots. That's why. You HAVE to be an idiot to listen to the barrage of shit that comes out of the mouths of some GOP politicians.
Who in their right mind is gonna vote for Sarah Palin or Donald Trump unless they are more than a few tools short of a toolbox?
What America needs is a massive injection of sense. The rest of the world sees it. The rest of the world is pointing the finger at America and saying "you are going to destroy your country if you don't wise up soon".
And that's not just a right wing problem. It's an ultra-left problem too.
I'm often embarrased to identify as a socialist or a leftist because there are a multitude of morons that make US look bad as well. Ultra-feminists; extreme gender-benders; people who get offended at EVERYTHING. They are as much of an issue. And they stem from the same fundamental problem. Stupidity.
At every stage anyone attempts to make Americans' lives and health better, safer, more civilised, the GOP have a problem with it.
Because the left will keep bringing in migrants by the millions. Guess who they want to fit the bill. We could afford everything the libs propose if they'd quit taking our money & giving it to foreigners & deadbeats.
& then our crime goes through the roof & they want to disarm us because of something that they themselves caused.
The left is notorious for purposefully creating messes as excuses to take away rights & demonize the right for not fixing.
The amount the USA spends on welfare does not even come close to the amount that it loses in dodged corporate taxes. Corporate greed, a lack of a living wage, and a lack of worker's rights culminating in an insufficient number of good jobs to facilitate everyone of working age, are why many of those "deadbeats" exist in the first place.
It's the purview of government to make sure a society is run in the best interests of its majority demographic. In the USA, the majority demographic is the average working person who doesn't make anywhere close to six figures.
To reach an acceptable standard of recompense for everyone, you either tax the millionaires and the billionaires and the corporations more, and feed it back into the society through socialised initiatives which will ease the burden of expenditure on normal families, couples and singles, or you demand that companies pay a legal minimum living wage for every single working person (which is between about $15 and $20 an hour depending on the state).
If neither of these conditions are met, then you are left with very large numbers of "normal" people who have no choice but to rely on a level of government aid, because their wages fundamentally don't pay enough to support their basic needs and their expenditure for things like medicine or travel or housing are too high for them to manage. That is the definition of being in poverty.
You're pointing the finger of blame at people in the same social class as yourself. Can you not see the ridiculousness in that? Doing that only lets the people with the real power hold on to it.
Let's say a single mother waitressing earns $7 an hour and works a forty hour week. After childcare and rent, she's going to have practically nothing left for food, hot water, clothing, and other necessities of life. Yes, she's a waitress, but maybe that's all she ever learned to do. Paying her in buttons so that she has to rely on the government for aid, or has to rack up debts, is wrong whichever way you look at it.
She's working hard to make ends meet, and it isn't enough to even do that. You'd be surprised how many millions are in situations like that. And when you have a cabal of corporations that take away literally hundreds of billions in dodged taxes, it's ludicrous to pin the blame for a failing society on that single mother or others like her.
Like it or not, money is the modern currency of control. You need it for everything nowadays. Those who have lots of it, are those with control over where it goes (usually back to them). And those without it are the ones you blame for the shortage of it.
That makes no sense at all.
If I and my group of forty rich friends and allies hoard 50% of the money in existence, then who is to blame for the fact that there is only 50% left for everyone else?
Certainly not young Darcy who works forty hours a week at the local diner.
If I and my group of forty rich friends and allies hoard 50% of the money in existence, then who is to blame for the fact that there is only 50% left for everyone else?
Certainly not young Darcy who works forty hours a week at the local diner.
First off, don't work at the diner if it sucks & pays shit. Secondly, you are staking a claim to money & goods that would not even exist without the "rich friends". If they disappeared, you'd wind up with less because their created jobs would not exist, nor would their products. Without them the jobs would be in the fields and mines & that's it. You'd work for peanuts, but at least everyone would have the same peanuts. Liberalism at its best.
First off, don't work at the diner if it sucks & pays shit
It isn't that simple for most people.
Secondly, you are staking a claim to money & goods that would not even exist without the "rich friends"
Money is created by banks when loans are issued. They charge a usury on currency that's yet to exist. Meaning the public deficits always work in their favour. The system survives on foreclosure, seized goods, and public bailouts. What you see as created wealth is really a deficit to the average citizen's disadvantage. He pays for it thrice: in interest; in foreclosures; and in public bailouts.
And that's only the banks.
The social cost of corporate greed goes far deeper than the cost of the welfare recipient.
He pays for it thrice: in interest; in foreclosures
I bought my first car for $3,000 cash. It kept running for years. I bought my first house for $15,000 cash. I then built a house next to it as I could afford it.
I paid cash for multiple used vehicles.
I saved money.
I later bought a new car with cash.
The banks didn't see shit because I'm not a brainwashed loon.
The amount the USA spends on welfare does not even come close to the amount that it loses in dodged corporate taxes
You have no idea how many corporate taxes are dodged & if you tax corporations to death they just leave the country & you get nothing from them, including taxes & jobs. That's what liberal globalism does, fuck up the system and order & create instability.
This is proven false, by every country with high corporate tax. Why? Because some profit is better than no profit. Leaving a country is leaving an entire market's profits for the sake of principle. In case you forgot, corporations lack principles.
They gain nothing from leaving behind their business in a country that raises its taxes. They gain everything by making you believe that raising their taxes is a bad thing.
No corporation to my knowledge has ever shifted itself entirely from business in a particular nation because of higher taxes.
If a corporation leaves, you refuse to allow their products to be shipped to your populace, or introduce import tarrifs on them so high that they regret ever having made the decision. In case you forgot, America is the most consumeristic country on the planet. Leaving America to save a few percent in corporate tax is shooting yourself in the foot, because it represents a monumental loss of business.
The profits the corporation loses by leaving, are undoubtedly worse than a few percent in corporate tax.
Corporations know this. It's why America can have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the developed world and still be home to the largest per capita number of corporations.
(CNNMoney) More companies than ever are abandoning the U.S. for nations with lower taxes.
A new analysis found 47 companies have relocated to home bases overseas to take advantage of lower rates in the past 10 years through a merger process known as inversion.
Trump taught us it is okay to say Merry Christmas & be white in our own country. Thank you Mr Trump. I don't want to be forced to wear a liberal hijab. Thank you so so much.
Trump taught us it is okay to say Merry Christmas & be white in our own country.
People like you are always looking for a way to divide yourselves along racial lines, as your own comment evidences. The very fact that you believe skin colour has any relevance to anything suggests that you are a racist.
#BLMdidthat. As of about 2015 people have been hating whites. Using reverse racism (which is still racism). Calling whites thhe racists. Getting pissed when we elect a white president that isn’t a democrat. Like y’all out here shouting down whites calling racist, saying that whites are racist for saying the N-word while you’re out there calling white people crackers. We need to wake up. We need to fix this shit. And we need to fix it fast. And that doesn’t include impeaching a perfectly fine POTUS.
People like you are always looking for a way to divide yourselves along racial lines
Well no, they aren't looking for way to divide themselves along racial lines, they are just exposing the fact that liberals hate anyone who isn't a woman, part of a minority, or LBGTQ. Skin color is surprisingly relevant to the left.
Unless you've been living in a cave you'd know that we conservatives knew all those things many Years ago. Trump had taught us nothing, except for the fact that due to social dissatisfaction with government, even a narcissistic, crude, undereducated and racist, bigoted bullying man child can get his fat mushy ass into the White House.
You aren't a conservative. You're a Nom duplicate account. You do this because you can't defeat conservative arguments. Liberalism makes no sense. That's why it is impossible to defend. Cheers.
Half true. He did teach us it absolutely matters who is in charge. But it also taught celebrities who never thought they'd have a chance at it that heck yeah, they could win and do this thing, too. So the next time people really care about it they're going to put their favorite talk show host, actor, singer, etc in charge.
Yep. We've seen universal healthcare in Britain decide sick babies die and that you can't go to a foreign country to save the child. That's why we don't want Big Brother controlling our ability to save our own lives or our child's lives. Maybe you can get that flu medicine from a doctor you don't approve of in 3 months. Get in line. No thanks.
They’re not very good at business either they will give a country away for a bag of beads ,
Trade Beads
Made to ease the passage of European explorers and then traders mainly across the African continents, the beads were made throughout Europe although the Venetians dominated production. Trade beads are also found in the United States and Canada, and throughout Latin America. The bead designs were varied.[1] North American Indians sought beads of particular color, size and form.[2] The frequency of archaeological discovery of each type indicates their popularity.[2] Large blue beads were favoured early in the trade although details of when European trade with native American Indians began remains elusive.[3]
The production of slave (trade) beads became so popular that literally tons of these beads were used for this purpose. Beads were used as ballast in slave/trade ships for the outbound trip. The beads and other trade items were exchanged for human cargo as well as ivory, gold and other goods desired in Europe and around the world. The beads traded were not of a set design, but were produced according to demand.[1] Millefiori (thousand flower) beads from Venice, Italy were one of the most commonly traded beads, and are commonly known as "African trade beads." They were produced by creating flowers or stripes from glass canes, that were then cut and moulded onto a core of solid color. Beads such as the kiffa beads of Mauritania are thought to have resulted from women creating powdered glass beads to mimic the appearance of millefiori beads.
The success of this form of currency can largely be attributed to the high intrinsic value African people put upon decorative items. Glassmaking was not common in Africa.[1] Africans often used beads for currency (often referred to as african money).[4] and wealth storage, and social status could be easily determined by the quality, quantity and style of jewellery worn. This created a high demand for trade beads in Africa.
They do get a tad annoyed when presented with these facts , recently a black chap on C D said all whites were filthy stupid pigs so I presented him with the fact that white men bought up the mineral wealth of his country with bags of beads so being stupid has its advantages whilst dealing with his type , he flew into a rage and sulked for months and all because the truth truly does hurt
Does anyone remember when the left was the confederacy? Like NumberOne out here using stereotypes about the right being racist bigots while most of the righty’s are nice NORMAL people.
