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Of course, he is Trump can do NO wrong
Debate Score:45
Arguments:49
Total Votes:47
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Trump is gonna ELIMINATE coverage for pre-existing conditions, isn't he??

Hello:

Right now, insurance companies CAN'T discriminate against you IF you have a pre-existing condition.. That IS the law of the land..  Sooooo, if Trump is gonna KEEP that promise, he would do NOTHING..   But, his bill lets the states opt out..  Of course, you KNOW if the states CAN opt out, they WILL..

That'll take us back to the bad old days when sick people could be DENIED health insurance, and they'll DIE in the streets..

No?

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Of course, he is

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Trump can do NO wrong

Side Score: 31
1 point

Admittedly, Obamacare needs work. Trumps failure to bring out an acceptable alternative and that disaster he tried to present failure to go through was, hopefully, a slap in the face for him. He finally admitted that healthcare was a difficult subject but I have little faith that he'll be able to resolve the issue to the benefit or approval of all. But to be fair, in all honesty IS an impossible task.

However. Eliminating coverage for pre-existing conditions would be a nightmare. It's very loosely termed, most insurances would deny coverage any chance they could and people would be at the mercy of whatever whim the company they pay into has at the moment.

Side: Of course, he is
3 points

"However. Eliminating coverage for pre-existing conditions would be a nightmare"

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1)It was like that for all of Anerican history. It wasn't a "nightmare".

2)Premiums are beyond measure with obamacare. That is a nightmare.

The left is more worried about 19 million people than the other 340 million people. That's logical crap.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

2)Premiums are beyond measure with obamacare. That is a nightmare.

Premiums were enormous before Obamacare too. He didn't solve the problem, but don't pretend like he created it either.

Side: Of course, he is
1 point

"I have little faith that he'll be able to resolve the issue to the benefit or approval of all"----

Obamacare didn't get "the approval of all" or even most. Come on now mint tea. That's an impossible task.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
1 point

Where did I say it did?

Side: Of course, he is
1 point

"However. Eliminating coverage for pre-existing conditions would be a nightmare"

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Try socialized true "universal healthcare". You'll die before you see a doctor. There's a reason that foreigners come here for medical care.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

He always says it will be "available". His rich followers will be able to "avail it", no problem. Those that can't will be just as dead as those American heroes that get caught by a bullet, or bomb, that the right wing dons their flag underwear for ... and just as American. They will get no parade, no speeches, no salutes. Most will be put to rest as dead lazy liberals that didn't make enough money to finance the insurance cartel .... to bad. Their bankrupt family will, no doubt, follow in the lazy liberals footsteps. Health care is a privilege, not a right ... unless you can contribute heavily to the insurance cartel and the Trump Care Administration, you are NOT an American. You probably don't understand capitalism! The thoughts of "Government of, FOR, and BY the people" is a left wing fantasy that should be relegated to the myths of democracy, and forgotten. So says Trumpty Dumpty.....sitting on his "wall".

It would take less billions$ to care for those Americans than to build that stupid wall!!

Side: Of course, he is
DBCooper(2194) Clarified
2 points

What happen with Keep your Doctor , Keep your Plan and Save 2500 dollars on your Deducible. That never worked........

Side: Of course, he is
1 point

"Most will be put to rest as dead lazy liberals that didn't make enough money to finance the insurance cartel"

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So don't work at Walmart or McDonalds. Most factories pay better than teachers get paid.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

-----health care is a privilege, not a right -----

But it's true. Why is a doctor obligated to use time and resources on someone who will not or cannot pay? If they do, that 's fine, but why are they obligated to help anyone? We are lucky that they want to help us. It's a privelege.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

-----Those that can't will be just as dead as those American heroes that get caught by a bullet-----

Obama cut veteran benefits. Many died waiting for the money to cover expenses.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

Congress cut veterans benefits, not Obama. As far as healthcare being a privilege, you are SICK.

Remember, Congress holds the purse strings, little money, except in emergencies, gets spent without THEIR okay! HMMM, who controlled the "do nothing Congress"?????

Side: Of course, he is
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It would take less billions$ to care for those Americans than to build that stupid wall-----

1)This is false.

2)As more and more illegals pour in, the cost keeps going up.

3)Liberals acted like money grew on trees when Obama was in office. Now they are mad on every expense. It's hypocrisy.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

He'll probably eliminate coverage for the biggest pre-existing condition that there is. It's called "Life". And it's extremely deadly. 100% of people who contract Life eventually end up dead. So why bother to cover that?

Side: Of course, he is
1 point

Let me offer you a great insurance policy. What's it going to take to get you saved in Christ through faith by grace today? ;-)

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
excon(18260) Disputed
1 point

Hello bront:

Look.. If your skydaddy will PAY my bills, so I can LIVE, he's my man.

excon

Side: Of course, he is
1 point

I'd like an "I'm with Stupid" shirt with the arrow pointing to heaven. Think he'll do it? .........................................................

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

without a doubt.................................................................................................................................................

Side: Of course, he is
2 points

https://trumpcare.com/trumpcare-vs-obamacare/

Trump already called people like you complete deceptive liars as always.

He said people with pre existing illness will not lose coverage. They may have to pay more because they use up so much of the plans resources. No different than any insurance whereby those who cost the insurance companies the most money, pay more.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong

You don't know what he's going to do because he hasn't presented you anything. Quit watching Rachel Maddow. I haven't seen her be right yet.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong
1 point

That'll take us back to the bad old days when sick people could be DENIED health insurance, and they'll DIE in the streets..

How many people were dying in the streets before Obama came along excon.

Side: Trump can do NO wrong