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Donald Trump Hilary Clinton
Debate Score:107
Arguments:59
Total Votes:108
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Trump or Clinton for President?

I actually think that Donald Trump should be president over Hilary Clinton. Hilary Clinton is nothing but a deceiving woman who deserves nothing less than disqualification. She has covered up child pornography, how low could you stoop? She did it selfishly, too, only for her own good. By the recent news, Hilary Clinton covered up to save her workers from emailing each other child porn, which is sick and selfish. Nevermind disqualification, she should be arrested for 10 years or more. Donald Trump does have his falls, he has and will insult anyone he can and speaks with an ill tongue, but still, he is a much better candidate than Hilary Clinton, she doesn't deserve to be president. Think if she did get elected, she would cover things up and not tell us, leading to ultimate destruction, this isn't a joke. Presidents need to be someone who can be trusted to warn us when things happen, something needs to be done about Clinton, she can't be trusted. 

Donald Trump

Side Score: 37
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Hilary Clinton

Side Score: 70
2 points

I vote for him because he is more trustworthy than Hilary would ever be.

Side: Donald Trump
2 points

How so?

Side: Hilary Clinton
instig8or(3308) Disputed
3 points

You can rely on him to fuck the country up, Hillary may only make a half-assed attempt.

Side: Donald Trump
Harvard(666) Disputed
1 point

He is more trustworthy in terms of honesty. His frankness (albeit absurd, racist, etc.) implies that he is more willing to be transparent. He doesn't tell sad mother stories like Hilary to adhere to the public. He is, however, inconsistent at times but I would argue that his inconsistency derives from lack of presidential caliber (political) intelligence, also his self-assuredness- simply, he is so sure about himself he probably does not utilize political advisors.

Side: Donald Trump

Trump is the epitome of America (capitalism to extreme). America really has no other option - the Dems have a bunch of losers. Besides, Trump is just barely Repub (if not Lib).

Side: Donald Trump
instig8or(3308) Disputed
2 points

A Libertarian (which I assume you are saying he is) does not support racist regimes or militant anti-immigration policies.

He is fascist, whether you agree with fascism or not is a separate debate but he is definitely not Libertarian.

Side: Hilary Clinton
1 point

America is the greatest nation on earth due to the innovation, self-reliance and work ethic of it's people. Donald Trump is the epitome of these qualities and as he has not been contaminated by the corruption of the political circus he could breathe some much needed fresh air and inject a lot of good old Yankee vigour into the stale and inert atmosphere of American politics whilst approaching the position without any outdated, pre-conceived notions . Cometh the hour, cometh the man, Just as Churchill was there for the British nation in 1939 so Trump is here for all the American people right now.

Side: Donald Trump
1 point

Trump may be crazy, but at least he doesn't cover up all the stuff he does and say "oh, I didn't know" or "I guess I should have done it differently" like Hillary does.

Side: Donald Trump
instig8or(3308) Disputed
2 points

He doesn't have to cover anything up, he hasn't done anything notable to begin with.

Side: Hilary Clinton

Trump will make us stronger. He will create jobs. He will stop giving stuff away to ingrate counties

Side: Donald Trump
3 points

How will he make us stronger?

How will he create jobs?

Which countries will he stop "giving stuff away to"?

Side: Hilary Clinton
2 points

Good questions. In his own words he's "Hired thousands of Hispanics". "I love them!" (They work cheap!) Funny, it seems he could have hired thousands of Americans that were out of work, that would have made thousands less jobs to draw "them" across the border! (not saying that SOME of those Hispanics ere NOT Americans, but you can bet many were "illegals") He is about as hypocritical as they come! If Bubba had hired thousands of "illegals", he'd be all over Hillary about it! Stronger? I can see him "negotiating" with Putin ..."Scuse me, scuse me! I'm talking here! You don't have the FACE to be the Russian leader! Look at that face! He's no leader!"

Yeah, THAT would show Putin who's boss!

Side: Hilary Clinton
1 point

I would definitely vote for Trump. Although he is not the most professional candidate he has guts to go in front of cameras and voice his opinions. He doesn't need to talk like he is better than everyone and I think that is awesome. He also has some great ideas (Not that I agree with all of them) one of them being illegal immigration. It is a serious problem and something needs to be done about it. Trump is a man that can make it happen, although I don't believe a wall around the entire southern part of the United States will fix anything it could be modified into a decent solution.

Side: Donald Trump
1 point

If Hillary can't satisfy Bill, how can she satisfy America?

Side: Donald Trump

Trump because he's self-funded and beholden to no one except voters; he has business experience and sense; he's willing to touch taboo topics such as immigration, government excess, lop-sided trade agreements, unfair trade practices... for starters. Hillary is a shrill-shreeking shrew who is self-serving, lying, conniving and deceptive, just for starters.

Side: Donald Trump
Pantagruel(984) Disputed
2 points

Trump because he's self-funded

So you support America turning into a de facto plutocracy then?

Besides which, he isn't so much funding his own campaign as he is loaning himself the money to fund his campaign.

On top of which, he has taken in millions in donations.

beholden to no one except voters

Considering that he sees himself as being better than his voters, does that really count for much?

he's willing to touch taboo

In one of the most disrespectful and unbecoming ways imaginable.

immigration

Ship 'em all out, doesn't matter if they are American citizens by birth: just get rid of them.

Also, he says "the good ones...can come back in". What is a good one exactly? Somebody who supported him?

Considering that Arizona's "racial profiling" - where they stopped Hispanics and demanded to see papers - was deemed unconstitutional a few years back, his plan doesn't seem like it could be any different, constitution-wise.

government excess

All these plans he has come up with: wouldn't that be excessive in expense?

Sure, get rid of the EPA and the Department of Education. Two of the more important departments in America's jungle of bureaucracy for the future of the nation. Not surprising, seeing how he thinks climate change is a hoax and that most of what is taught in school is a lie.

lop-sided trade agreements

About which he is fully ignorant.

Hillary is a shrill-shreeking shrew who is self-serving

Aren't all politicians? Trump included.

lying

Yet she has such a better record on PolitiFact than Trump.

Of course, few beat Bernie in terms of honesty.

Side: Hilary Clinton
1 point

Undoubtedly Donald Trump. You don't become that successful by being an Idiot. Today he announced part of his Foreign Affairs Advisory Team, He held a press conference in DC and then made a speech at AIPAC. One of the things that stood out the most in my views was that his AIPAC speech revealed that he is not stupid when it comes to Foreign Policy and he used measurable facts to show that he understands the impacts better than anyone else.

Side: Donald Trump

He's not perfect, but he has real world experience in the private sector and is not owned by special interests like Hillary is.

Side: Donald Trump
3 points

Dude, for the billionth time, his investments under performed against the market.

That means that he does indeed have real world experience in the private sector, and it's shit.

Side: Hilary Clinton
SoftSky(17) Disputed
1 point

According to Forbes, Trump currently has a fortune of $4.5 billion. Do you have a fortune of $4.5 billion? His performance in the private sector clearly hasn't been unsuccessful, and it definitely hasn't been "shit".

Side: Donald Trump
1 point

Yet, he's worth billions. He has a successful, multi-national real estate empire among other many successful ventures. That ain't shit, Burferd.

Side: Donald Trump
6 points

Donald Trump: The man who truly does hate the constitution: restricting religion, speech, due process. The man who has no regard for law - either national or international - in his plots to kill noncombatants, children no less, and to use nuclear weapons. A petty, litigious, puerile, misogynistic xenophobe who alternates between whichever ideology is most popular that day. The man who can't get any of his opinions straight and wouldn't know a fact if it fell out of the sky and hit him in the rug and uses fallacy and contumely rather than logic and respect. He encourages violence and yet curses non-violent prisoners to promises of even harsher laws. Worst of all, the man who maintains that climate change - potentially the most significant problem in the world, one with sempiternal effects for humanity rather than the ephemeral squabbles he engenders worry about by appealing to the authoritarian traits of a metamorphosing nation - is a dastardly hoax. He has no respect for science and fact.

He is the very personification of evil. The only good thing about him is that most of his statements are probably merely what he knows the people want to hear, rather than what he really thinks.

Clinton at least has some idea of her place in the scheme of things; I can't see her using a nuclear weapon, locking people up for their religion, or writing off climate change as a joke. Make no mistake: it is that climate change that is the most important political issue precisely because it has no respect for politics, it will continue no matter how hard you scream that it is a hoax.

Side: Hilary Clinton

I will vote for Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump has no political experience, therefore, his campaign to be President is a farce.

Side: Hilary Clinton
instig8or(3308) Disputed
4 points

No political experience and yet has such a huge following, doesn't that make it all the more amazing?

Side: Donald Trump
SoftSky(17) Disputed
1 point

And Clinton's campaign isn't also a joke in itself? During Clinton's role as secretary of state, what has she actually accomplished to make the world a better place?

Her "experience" is useless.

Side: Donald Trump
2 points

Calling it useless is absurd. She has substantial experience dealing with foreign leaders, she is very familiar with the inter workings of the United States government including time spent in the legislature, etc.

And do you want to actually discuss everything she did as SecState, or are you just throwing that out there without knowing anything beyond "Benghazi"?

Side: Hilary Clinton

To be honest I don't know much about Hilary Clinton, I am not American so my knowledge of your politics is limited. However Donald Trump is famous around the world do be America's biggest joke, so for the sake of the little dignity Americans have left I would encourage you to vote for anyone but him. I don't know whether or not Clinton is stupid, if she is I don't know how, but I can't imagine anyone topping Trump, I've seen some of his speeches, his brain is just as small as his wallet is big.

Plus I would never vote for a republican.

Side: Hilary Clinton
4 points

In Trumps own words: "I'm not going anywhere folks!"

Want war? Vote for the Trump card! I can see Putin sitting across a table from Trump thinking: "I wonder if a nuke up his ass would shut him up!"

Side: Hilary Clinton
4 points

One doesn't have to make a choice, because there isn't a choice. Hillary is the best person for the job. Trump speaks before he thinks, this type of person is extremely dangerous as a countries leader. The role of President takes diplomacy, not insanity.

Side: Hilary Clinton
4 points

Once people realize that all the "Trumped up" crap about her is some old, same old right wing garbage that has been going on since Bubba was elected in the 90's, then there will be no contest! Trump would have the rest of the world hating us, and we will be at war again .. maybe for the very last time!

Side: Hilary Clinton
4 points

Donald Trump is a racist, sexist, misogynistic person. I think anyone who could not accept all citizens of America should not even run for president.

Side: Hilary Clinton
HighFalutin(3402) Clarified
2 points

What citizens of America is he rejecting?

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Side: Donald Trump

While I do not plan on voting for Hillary Clinton, do you have any evidence of the claims you are making about her?

Side: Hilary Clinton
DebateGirl50(14) Clarified
3 points

Yes I have much evidence, just watch Bill O'Reilly every night, he begins @ 8:00pm EST. But there is much evidence on Google and many many sites if you're that interested.

Side: Donald Trump
3 points

Saying "Watch an incredibly biased political pundit who has been demonstrably wrong in the past" is not evidence.

I have tried researching your claim online and found absolutely no actual evidence, so I will ask you again: Do you have any evidence that you can cite? I am talking about legitimate evidence, not blogs or websites that lack any substantiating citations.

Side: Donald Trump
AlofRI(3294) Disputed
2 points

Most, if not ALL of the "evidence" you get from FOX Nation is generated to smear and "look" like fact! They are very good at it, and convincing to those with "pliable minds". Most of their followers are suffering from FOX's "perception modification".

Side: Donald Trump
Harvard(666) Disputed
2 points

He could have easily argued her political positions, conjoined with the fact that her husband was president (which gave her insight as to how a presidency operates), is what makes her somewhat more suitable than Trump.

(NOTE: I am only playing devils advocate here, this isn't my position).

Side: Donald Trump
3 points

People who vote for Trump, he has infected you with his stupidity. He has targeted the people like you, the ones who want drastic change, to tip the vote towards him. He knows that the majority of the people who vote for him are not very smart. Unfortunately, these type of people takes up the majority of the United States hence his position in the polls. Hillary, on the other hand, though she might not be on one's side because of the few bad decisions she made, but, at least, she has been in those situations, making her experienced. The majority of her decisions have shaped the United States in a good way.

Side: Hilary Clinton
3 points

Anybody but Trump THIS IS WORLD WAR 3 cant nobody see this? According to a recent online poll, 40% of people voted for Trump to be president and the other 60% elsewhere. He is not going to fix your country! There will be a civil war and then the other countries will make deals and get involved all over again. So there you have it. World War Three. Exactly the same way Hitler did. Have you not learnt from history? Even the numbers are exactly the same, that's scary isn't it? 40% Hitler, 60% elsewhere. And if the 60% of you don't all vote for the same person your country is stuffed, no, the whole world is stuffed. There are many theories for Hitler's death, some people believe that he is still alive and I know that he is, but none of you would recognise him as he goes by the name of Donald Trump. I'm 13 and I can even see this, open your eyes and see for yourself.

Side: Hilary Clinton
3 points

I have to say, I originally was a Bernie Supporter, but always a Hilary Suporter as my second choice, I have always voted democrat, but I suppose I could be persuaded to vote another party, giving the circumstances. As we all should know, everyone has their faults, as well as their strengths. I believe Hilary is the best choice to do the job as President, than Mr. Trump. I admire Mr. Trumps many accomplishments, but I do not believe he has the prior experience to Run this country, at least, Hilary has been involved in politics. If Mr. Trump wanted to be President of the United States, he should have at least held some kind of office that relied on an election, not always being the C.E.O. There are many more reasons why Mr. Trump is not ready for the task, I just can not believe how many people agree with his bully tactics.. My mother was an immigrant from Scotland, and she was a proud American also... And I am very thankful there weren't any walls stopping her or I would not have been born in this great country of ours..... God bless the world.........

Side: Hilary Clinton