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Trump or Clinton for President?
I actually think that Donald Trump should be president over Hilary Clinton. Hilary Clinton is nothing but a deceiving woman who deserves nothing less than disqualification. She has covered up child pornography, how low could you stoop? She did it selfishly, too, only for her own good. By the recent news, Hilary Clinton covered up to save her workers from emailing each other child porn, which is sick and selfish. Nevermind disqualification, she should be arrested for 10 years or more. Donald Trump does have his falls, he has and will insult anyone he can and speaks with an ill tongue, but still, he is a much better candidate than Hilary Clinton, she doesn't deserve to be president. Think if she did get elected, she would cover things up and not tell us, leading to ultimate destruction, this isn't a joke. Presidents need to be someone who can be trusted to warn us when things happen, something needs to be done about Clinton, she can't be trusted.
He is more trustworthy in terms of honesty. His frankness (albeit absurd, racist, etc.) implies that he is more willing to be transparent. He doesn't tell sad mother stories like Hilary to adhere to the public. He is, however, inconsistent at times but I would argue that his inconsistency derives from lack of presidential caliber (political) intelligence, also his self-assuredness- simply, he is so sure about himself he probably does not utilize political advisors.
Trump lies about his companies hiring illegals. Trump lies about throwing out reporters from press conferences. Your assessment of Hillary is accurate, but I am pretty sure Trump's trustworthiness is only from not getting caught.
Trump is the epitome of America (capitalism to extreme). America really has no other option - the Dems have a bunch of losers. Besides, Trump is just barely Repub (if not Lib).
America is the greatest nation on earth due to the innovation, self-reliance and work ethic of it's people. Donald Trump is the epitome of these qualities and as he has not been contaminated by the corruption of the political circus he could breathe some much needed fresh air and inject a lot of good old Yankee vigour into the stale and inert atmosphere of American politics whilst approaching the position without any outdated, pre-conceived notions . Cometh the hour, cometh the man, Just as Churchill was there for the British nation in 1939 so Trump is here for all the American people right now.
Trump may be crazy, but at least he doesn't cover up all the stuff he does and say "oh, I didn't know" or "I guess I should have done it differently" like Hillary does.
Good questions. In his own words he's "Hired thousands of Hispanics". "I love them!" (They work cheap!) Funny, it seems he could have hired thousands of Americans that were out of work, that would have made thousands less jobs to draw "them" across the border! (not saying that SOME of those Hispanics ere NOT Americans, but you can bet many were "illegals") He is about as hypocritical as they come! If Bubba had hired thousands of "illegals", he'd be all over Hillary about it! Stronger? I can see him "negotiating" with Putin ..."Scuse me, scuse me! I'm talking here! You don't have the FACE to be the Russian leader! Look at that face! He's no leader!"
I would definitely vote for Trump. Although he is not the most professional candidate he has guts to go in front of cameras and voice his opinions. He doesn't need to talk like he is better than everyone and I think that is awesome. He also has some great ideas (Not that I agree with all of them) one of them being illegal immigration. It is a serious problem and something needs to be done about it. Trump is a man that can make it happen, although I don't believe a wall around the entire southern part of the United States will fix anything it could be modified into a decent solution.
Trump because he's self-funded and beholden to no one except voters; he has business experience and sense; he's willing to touch taboo topics such as immigration, government excess, lop-sided trade agreements, unfair trade practices... for starters. Hillary is a shrill-shreeking shrew who is self-serving, lying, conniving and deceptive, just for starters.
So you support America turning into a de facto plutocracy then?
Besides which, he isn't so much funding his own campaign as he is loaning himself the money to fund his campaign.
On top of which, he has taken in millions in donations.
beholden to no one except voters
Considering that he sees himself as being better than his voters, does that really count for much?
he's willing to touch taboo
In one of the most disrespectful and unbecoming ways imaginable.
immigration
Ship 'em all out, doesn't matter if they are American citizens by birth: just get rid of them.
Also, he says "the good ones...can come back in". What is a good one exactly? Somebody who supported him?
Considering that Arizona's "racial profiling" - where they stopped Hispanics and demanded to see papers - was deemed unconstitutional a few years back, his plan doesn't seem like it could be any different, constitution-wise.
government excess
All these plans he has come up with: wouldn't that be excessive in expense?
Sure, get rid of the EPA and the Department of Education. Two of the more important departments in America's jungle of bureaucracy for the future of the nation. Not surprising, seeing how he thinks climate change is a hoax and that most of what is taught in school is a lie.
Undoubtedly Donald Trump. You don't become that successful by being an Idiot. Today he announced part of his Foreign Affairs Advisory Team, He held a press conference in DC and then made a speech at AIPAC. One of the things that stood out the most in my views was that his AIPAC speech revealed that he is not stupid when it comes to Foreign Policy and he used measurable facts to show that he understands the impacts better than anyone else.
According to Forbes, Trump currently has a fortune of $4.5 billion. Do you have a fortune of $4.5 billion? His performance in the private sector clearly hasn't been unsuccessful, and it definitely hasn't been "shit".
Okay, I didn't realize I need to spell this one out.
There are two things he could have done. He could have taken the investment capitol he received from his father and put it into a savings account that matched the market rate, or he could have used it himself for his own personal investments. He went with the latter.
Going with the former would have led to him having far more money. I won't say more than 4.5 billion, because that figure is complete utter horseshit evidenced by his testimony before the court during the Trump University case where he said much of that figure comes from his own personal valuation of his "brand", which fluctuates wildly (all according to him).
So, you say the United States economy is not doing well, and we need a business man. Yet the business man you point to has a personal growth rate that is less than the very economy you say is struggling. The total value of his wealth doesn't mean that much when his growth rate is complete shit.
I mean seriously, over three billion of that figure is his own inflated ego (no shit, he values his brand at 3.3 billion) and the rest is unverifiable because he won't disclose his assets or tax filings. Forgive me if I won't take him at his word, considering his borderline compulsory need to lie.
If you are given start up capitol and you aren't an idiot when it comes to business, you can make more money. That isn't a revelation.
But any businessman who underperforms the market is hardly successful. If he took that start-up money and put it into a savings account that simply matched market perforance (something you can easily do) he would have substantially more money than he does now.
If you call a businessman who under performs compared to the market someone worth lauding, then you really need to learn more about business and economics.
Your argument is absurd. If he, I, or you put all our money in Microsoft, Apple, or Amazon, we would be way ahead of the game. He IS successful by any measure.
You keep on using the same old, stale, ridiculous liberal talking points. Be original.
You can use whatever metric you want, but Trump is a successful businessman, period, ranging from real estate, golf courses, books, TV shows and much more. Sure, he's had some setbacks, but show me someone who has never failed and I'll show you someone who never does anything. Plus, he's going to be the next president. How's that for success?
I sense desperation in your posts; go ahead and say it and get use to it: President Trump. ha ha ha ha.
Donald Trump: The man who truly does hate the constitution: restricting religion, speech, due process. The man who has no regard for law - either national or international - in his plots to kill noncombatants, children no less, and to use nuclear weapons. A petty, litigious, puerile, misogynistic xenophobe who alternates between whichever ideology is most popular that day. The man who can't get any of his opinions straight and wouldn't know a fact if it fell out of the sky and hit him in the rug and uses fallacy and contumely rather than logic and respect. He encourages violence and yet curses non-violent prisoners to promises of even harsher laws. Worst of all, the man who maintains that climate change - potentially the most significant problem in the world, one with sempiternal effects for humanity rather than the ephemeral squabbles he engenders worry about by appealing to the authoritarian traits of a metamorphosing nation - is a dastardly hoax. He has no respect for science and fact.
He is the very personification of evil. The only good thing about him is that most of his statements are probably merely what he knows the people want to hear, rather than what he really thinks.
Clinton at least has some idea of her place in the scheme of things; I can't see her using a nuclear weapon, locking people up for their religion, or writing off climate change as a joke. Make no mistake: it is that climate change that is the most important political issue precisely because it has no respect for politics, it will continue no matter how hard you scream that it is a hoax.
And Clinton's campaign isn't also a joke in itself? During Clinton's role as secretary of state, what has she actually accomplished to make the world a better place?
Calling it useless is absurd. She has substantial experience dealing with foreign leaders, she is very familiar with the inter workings of the United States government including time spent in the legislature, etc.
And do you want to actually discuss everything she did as SecState, or are you just throwing that out there without knowing anything beyond "Benghazi"?
Let's take a look at her foreign policy record so far.
The Iraq War
Clinton endorsed and voted for the catastrophe of the Iraq War, leaving thousands of Americans dead, trillions of American dollars wasted, without support from the UN, and with a justification that was completely wrong. As Secretary of State, Clinton proved herself completely incapable of helping to save countries such as Egypt (which were friendly to the US at the time) from being overthrown. Furthermore, the consequent Arab Uprisings were allowed to take place without Clinton intervening in the slightest... thus leading to the formation of IS.
Libya
NATO bombing for which Clinton was largely responsible meant that Gaddafi was overthrown in militants operating in the fashion of IS. As a direct consequence of this, four Americans were killed in Benghazi and today Libya is a failed state. Obama has explained that this is his "single greatest failure" as president - it is something Clinton is almost entirely responsible for.
Syria
Clinton has shown herself to be completely incapable of achieving anything here. In 2010 and 2011 Clinton made repeated promises that "Assad must go". The year is now 2016 and he is still in power.
What makes this worse is that Clinton's boast about arming militants to fight against Assad eventually resulted in those very same militants being attacked by ISIS and billions of dollars of US weaponry being seized after skirmishes in Mosul.
North Korea
No progress has been made here. North Korea has simply been allowed to develop its nuclear weapons capacity to unprecedented levels and within the next few years North Korea will have the capacity to launch a nuclear strike on the US should it wish to do so.
"She has substantial experience dealing with foreign leaders"
I suppose that what you mean by this is that Trump has no experience of dealing with anyone? You mean to say that he has no experience making deals and does not know how to conduct himself in front of foreign leaders? Well we all know that's rubbish... Trump has huge amounts of experience in the business world and has met with tycoons and leaders from all four corners of the world. Recently he met Henry Kissinger personally to discuss what steps could be made in the name of foreign policy, especially after Clinton has shown herself to simply being able to leap from one catastrophe to another.
Clinton endorsed and voted for the catastrophe of the Iraq War, leaving thousands of Americans dead, trillions of American dollars wasted, without support from the UN, and with a justification that was completely wrong. As Secretary of State, Clinton proved herself completely incapable of helping to save countries such as Egypt (which were friendly to the US at the time) from being overthrown. Furthermore, the consequent Arab Uprisings were allowed to take place without Clinton intervening in the slightest... thus leading to the formation of IS.
Massive over simplification. The Iraq War was a mistake for her to support, not doubt there, but the Arab Spring was being lauded by the Right and the Left as an organic movement that we hoped would lead to increase democratization. If the West went in and interfered, that would have led to the same situation as Iran, which she would have obviously been criticized for. Additionally, the formation of IS was caused by the West going in, overthrowing a leader, and leaving a power vacuum, not by Western refusal to interfere in the Arab Spring.
Libya
NATO bombing for which Clinton was largely responsible meant that Gaddafi was overthrown in militants operating in the fashion of IS. As a direct consequence of this, four Americans were killed in Benghazi and today Libya is a failed state. Obama has explained that this is his "single greatest failure" as president - it is something Clinton is almost entirely responsible for.
Another situation where both the Right and the Left were calling for involvement in Libya. Remember that of these main two you have said so far, Trump supported both. Now if we didn't get involved in Libya, that civil war was still set to overthrow Ghaddafi, which would have led to the same situation we are in now. Blaming that on her doesn't make sense.
Syria
Clinton has shown herself to be completely incapable of achieving anything here. In 2010 and 2011 Clinton made repeated promises that "Assad must go". The year is now 2016 and he is still in power.
So, what? Are you calling for us to land troops on Syrian soil, overthrow Assad and have Russia ready to start WW3? What are you saying that she should have done with Syria?
What makes this worse is that Clinton's boast about arming militants to fight against Assad eventually resulted in those very same militants being attacked by ISIS and billions of dollars of US weaponry being seized after skirmishes in Mosul.
What evidence do you have that this was to blame on her boasting, exactly?
North Korea
No progress has been made here. North Korea has simply been allowed to develop its nuclear weapons capacity to unprecedented levels and within the next few years North Korea will have the capacity to launch a nuclear strike on the US should it wish to do so.
Again, what do you think she should have done? With China's implicit backing, there is nothing the United States can do short of sanctions (which we have thrown at them time and time again).
I suppose that what you mean by this is that Trump has no experience of dealing with anyone? You mean to say that he has no experience making deals and does not know how to conduct himself in front of foreign leaders?
Do I need to start listing off the ways he has already pissed off foreign leaders?
Well we all know that's rubbish... Trump has huge amounts of experience in the business world and has met with tycoons and leaders from all four corners of the world.
Meeting business tycoons does not give you experience with the leaders of foreign states. Those are entirely different groups with different standards of decorum, standards by the way that Trump has already flaunted.
Recently he met Henry Kissinger personally to discuss what steps could be made in the name of foreign policy, especially after Clinton has shown herself to simply being able to leap from one catastrophe to another.
You mean Henry "Let's be friends with the fucking Khmer Rouge" Kissinger? Henry "Let's allow the U.S. president to order political assassinations" Kissinger? Henry "Let's overthrow political regimes that we don't like" Kissinger? Henry "We don't care about illegality and unconstitutionality" Kissinger?
Seriously? That's your example of the foreign policy experience that Trump has? Being advised by a fucking angel of death?
To be honest I don't know much about Hilary Clinton, I am not American so my knowledge of your politics is limited. However Donald Trump is famous around the world do be America's biggest joke, so for the sake of the little dignity Americans have left I would encourage you to vote for anyone but him. I don't know whether or not Clinton is stupid, if she is I don't know how, but I can't imagine anyone topping Trump, I've seen some of his speeches, his brain is just as small as his wallet is big.
One doesn't have to make a choice, because there isn't a choice. Hillary is the best person for the job. Trump speaks before he thinks, this type of person is extremely dangerous as a countries leader. The role of President takes diplomacy, not insanity.
Once people realize that all the "Trumped up" crap about her is some old, same old right wing garbage that has been going on since Bubba was elected in the 90's, then there will be no contest! Trump would have the rest of the world hating us, and we will be at war again .. maybe for the very last time!
Yes I have much evidence, just watch Bill O'Reilly every night, he begins @ 8:00pm EST. But there is much evidence on Google and many many sites if you're that interested.
Saying "Watch an incredibly biased political pundit who has been demonstrably wrong in the past" is not evidence.
I have tried researching your claim online and found absolutely no actual evidence, so I will ask you again: Do you have any evidence that you can cite? I am talking about legitimate evidence, not blogs or websites that lack any substantiating citations.
Most, if not ALL of the "evidence" you get from FOX Nation is generated to smear and "look" like fact! They are very good at it, and convincing to those with "pliable minds". Most of their followers are suffering from FOX's "perception modification".
He could have easily argued her political positions, conjoined with the fact that her husband was president (which gave her insight as to how a presidency operates), is what makes her somewhat more suitable than Trump.
(NOTE: I am only playing devils advocate here, this isn't my position).
People who vote for Trump, he has infected you with his stupidity. He has targeted the people like you, the ones who want drastic change, to tip the vote towards him. He knows that the majority of the people who vote for him are not very smart. Unfortunately, these type of people takes up the majority of the United States hence his position in the polls. Hillary, on the other hand, though she might not be on one's side because of the few bad decisions she made, but, at least, she has been in those situations, making her experienced. The majority of her decisions have shaped the United States in a good way.
Anybody but Trump THIS IS WORLD WAR 3 cant nobody see this? According to a recent online poll, 40% of people voted for Trump to be president and the other 60% elsewhere. He is not going to fix your country! There will be a civil war and then the other countries will make deals and get involved all over again. So there you have it. World War Three. Exactly the same way Hitler did. Have you not learnt from history? Even the numbers are exactly the same, that's scary isn't it? 40% Hitler, 60% elsewhere. And if the 60% of you don't all vote for the same person your country is stuffed, no, the whole world is stuffed. There are many theories for Hitler's death, some people believe that he is still alive and I know that he is, but none of you would recognise him as he goes by the name of Donald Trump. I'm 13 and I can even see this, open your eyes and see for yourself.
I have to say, I originally was a Bernie Supporter, but always a Hilary Suporter as my second choice, I have always voted democrat, but I suppose I could be persuaded to vote another party, giving the circumstances. As we all should know, everyone has their faults, as well as their strengths. I believe Hilary is the best choice to do the job as President, than Mr. Trump. I admire Mr. Trumps many accomplishments, but I do not believe he has the prior experience to Run this country, at least, Hilary has been involved in politics. If Mr. Trump wanted to be President of the United States, he should have at least held some kind of office that relied on an election, not always being the C.E.O. There are many more reasons why Mr. Trump is not ready for the task, I just can not believe how many people agree with his bully tactics.. My mother was an immigrant from Scotland, and she was a proud American also... And I am very thankful there weren't any walls stopping her or I would not have been born in this great country of ours..... God bless the world.........