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Debate Score:84
Arguments:23
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Trump's Closing Message: Racism, Violence and Plenty of Lies

If President Trump isn’t the most prolific liar in American history, he’s up there. The Washington Post found last week that over the course of his first 649 days in office, Trump made 6,420 false or misleading claims, or almost 10 per day. In the seven weeks leading up to the midterm elections, Trump has averaged 30 such claims per day. In this recent home stretch of frenzied rallies in airplane hangers, the president seems to have detached from reality completely. He has lied about health care. He has lied about tax cuts. Most notably, he has lied about a caravan of Central American migrants, an imaginary threat the government could wind up spending $200 million to substantiate.

Racism

Side Score: 29
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Violence

Side Score: 55
2 points

The Washington Post has the nerve to talk about lies? They are totally in bed with the Left and constantly show their double standards. Why on earth would any intelligent person believe them?

After the lies of Obamacare, I can't believe any Democrat would have the nerve to talk about other Presidents lying to the people, especially when their lies made health insurance unaffordable for the middle class while telling us our premiums would go down!

I go by the results of Presidents, not by the numbers of lies they may have told.

Remember ISIS? What happened after Trump was elected? I seldom hear about their atrocities on the news anymore.

Remember the anemic economy under Obama for 8 LONG years? They could not get GDP growth past 2%. Trump instantly grew our economy up to 4%!

Remember how many decades the Democrat Party has been telling us their concern for African Americans?

Trump created a RECORD LOW UNEMPLOYMENT for African Americans after a couple years in office. Who cares more for Black people?

I give facts, and people on the Left give rhetoric. American's have heard your rhetoric for decades and this is why Trump was elected.

Keep showing us how you never learn!

Side: Racism
BobBarker Disputed
1 point

The Washington Post has the nerve to talk about lies?

You have the nerve to go on the offensive when your Fuhrer tells an average of 30 lies a day? That's ridiculous, like pretty much everything you write.

They are totally in bed with the Left

Spare me your insane conspiracy theories you Pizzagate wanker. If Trump didn't tell an average of 30 lies per day then The Washington Post wouldn't be able to point out he tells an average of 30 lies a day, would it? You can't blame The Washington Post for the fact that your Fuhrer is a pathological liar. It isn't their fault you goddamned insane halfwit.

Side: Violence
BobBarker Disputed
1 point

I give facts

What a fucking joke. You aren't interested in facts, otherwise you'd be spending your time explaining why you support a man who lies an average of 30 times a day instead of attacking The Washington Post for having the audacity to point it out. Your retarded right wing conspiracy theories are not "facts". Literally the first thing you did when you replied is blame the Washington Post for Trump's record with fact checkers. Facts? Don't make me piss myself laughing, you warmongering, militant Christian cretin.

Side: Violence
2 points

He has lied about health care. He has lied about tax cuts.

No examples. What a surprise.

Side: Violence
ViceVega(16) Banned
1 point

Most notably, he has lied about a caravan of Central American migrants, an imaginary threat

The left wing media must have lied then.

Over 7,000-strong, the migrant caravan headed for the US pushes on

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/10/23/over-7000-strong-the-migrant-caravan-headed-for-the-us-pushes-on.html

Caravan of 7,000 Central American migrants continues north, defying warnings to turn back

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/caravan-of-central-american-migrants-continue-north-despite-warnings-to-turn- around/

A caravan of 7,000 migrants is heading towards the US border — haunting images show the deadly route most take to get there

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/finance/news/caravan-7-000-migrants-heading-141500675.html

Stretching for miles, 7,000-strong migrant caravan treks through stifling heat in southern Mexico

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-central-american-caravan-mexico-20181021-story.html?outputType=amp

Or maybe you are just a little retard.

Side: Violence
BobBarker Disputed
4 points

What to Know About the Migrant Caravan (Beyond Trump’s Lies)

The president has pushed an absurd collection of smears to denigrate the caravan of migrants seeking asylum in America

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-migrant-caravan-745507/

Side: Racism
Bronto(2003) Disputed Banned
1 point

The president has pushed an absurd collection of smears to denigrate the caravan of migrants seeking asylum in America

Conjecture. You have no way of knowing whether who is in the caravan is anything.

"100 ISIS Terrorists Caught in Guatemala as Central American Caravan Heads to U.S."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2018/10/100-isis-terrorists-caught-in-guatemala-as-central-american-caravan-heads-to-u-s/amp/

"Claim by the President of Guatemala: 100 Migrants Linked to Terrorism Arrested in That Country"

https://cis.org/Bensman/Remarkable-Unverified-Claim-President-Guatemala-100-Migrants-Linked-Terrorism- Arrested

"Guatemalan president boasts about catching 100 ISIS operatives as his country lays in turmoil amid thousands fleeing towards the US border"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6297869/amp/Guatemalan-president-claims-caught-100-ISIS-operatives.html

Side: Violence
AlphaBull Disputed
1 point

Point farming noted.

Side: Violence
Spanner(1) Disputed
4 points

Over 7,000-strong, the migrant caravan headed for the US pushes on

Caravan of 7,000 Central American migrants continues north, defying warnings to turn back

A caravan of 7,000 migrants is heading towards the US border — haunting images show the deadly route most take to get there

Stretching for miles, 7,000-strong migrant caravan treks through stifling heat in southern Mexico

Your fallacy appears to be that, since the caravan existed, Trump therefore did not tell any lies regarding it.

Side: Racism
2 points

Your fallacy appears to be that, since the caravan existed, Trump therefore did not tell any lies regarding it.

That is precisely what his fallacy is. Have an upvote.

Side: Racism
FrogofLondon(56) Disputed Banned
2 points

Your fallacy appears to be that, since the caravan existed, Trump therefore did not tell any lies regarding it.

Actually the OP says it was "imaginary". Something that exists isn't imaginary by definition.

Side: Violence
BananaOfWank(95) Disputed Banned
2 points

It must be frustrating to have Alinski tactics brainwashed into you, & then they not work.

Side: Violence
BobBarker Disputed
2 points

The left wing media must have lied then.

Or you are lying right now. You are lying by even accusing the media of being left wing in the first place. The media of the most capitalist country on Earth is communist is it? Good one, moron.

Why don't you tell us more about how Merkel has a better economy than Hitler, despite it being worth half as much?

Over 7,000-strong, the migrant caravan headed for the US pushes on

Yeah, this obviously is not evidence that Trump did not lie about the caravan, so you can just fuck right off. Come back when you're prepared not to be a liar.

Side: Racism
Bronto(2003) Disputed Banned
2 points

Or you are lying right now. You are lying by even accusing the media of being left wing in the first place

Right. A right wing dominated press stays silent on Farrakhan and trashes Trump nonstop....

Or...it's a left wing press because...it's a left wing press...

Oh look. The BBC has the same story with the same claims.

Migrant caravan in pictures: A river of people moving north

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-latin-america-45944166

Side: Violence
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1 point

You stated the Washington Compost and the Rolling Stone !!!!!!!!

Well now let's look at the lies of the Rolling Stone ! You want to ?????????

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/13/business/media/rape-uva-rolling-stone-frat.html

Rolling Stone has agreed to settle a defamation lawsuit brought by the University of Virginia fraternity at the center of a discredited article about an alleged gang rape, effectively closing the door on a pivotal and damaging chapter in the magazine’s history.

Under the terms of the settlement, the magazine agreed to pay the Virginia Alpha Chapter of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity $1.65 million. The fraternity had originally sought a trial by jury and $25 million in damages.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/jackies-rape-story-was-false-so-why-hasnt-the-media-named-her-by-now/2016/01/11/c1733926-b89e-11e5-b68

In the 14 months since her story shocked the world, Jackie has been at the heart of a national debate about sexual assaults on college campuses, has become embroiled in a media scandal, and is the central figure in a series of defamation lawsuits.

Yet there’s one important fact missing about Jackie, the young woman who concocted a harrowing story about a gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity: her full name.

News organizations have declined to reveal Jackie’s full identity since her now-discredited story appeared in Rolling Stone magazine in November 2014. Her single-name identity — just Jackie — is in keeping with a long-standing journalistic convention against identifying alleged victims of sexual crimes to protect the accuser’s privacy.

Rolling Stone is your go to source you uninformed Leftist Joke ???????

When you will you Leftist have any creditable information ???????????????

Side: Violence
1 point

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37879151

The $7.5m (£6m) lawsuit was brought by Nicole Eramo, an associate dean from the university, who said the article had cast her as the "chief villain".

The 2014 article, written by Sabrina Rubin Erdely, included the rape claim of an unidentified female student.

The magazine retracted the article in April 2015, citing inconsistencies.

The 9,000-word article, entitled A Rape on Campus, centred on the testimony of a student, referred to as "Jackie", who claimed to have been gang raped at a party held at the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity's house in 2012.

Rolling Stone magazine and a journalist have been found guilty of defamation over a false article about a gang rape at the University of Virginia.

Rolling Stone has some type of integrity in your mind ????????????????

Side: Violence
BobBarker Disputed
2 points

Rolling Stone has some type of integrity in your mind

Oh shut up you silly Republican shill. One discredited article means none of its articles can be trusted? Should we disregard every Wikipedia article because some of them are hoaxes? Do you know how many media companies have had stories discredited? FUCKING ALL OF THEM!!!

Get out.

Side: Racism
1 point

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/13/rolling-stone-magazine-settles-defamation-case-university-virginia/

Rolling Stone magazine agreed to pay $1.65 million (£1.29 million) to settle a defamation lawsuit filed by a University of Virginia fraternity over a debunked story about a rape on campus, the fraternity said on Tuesday.

The settlement closes the final chapter of a lengthy legal saga sparked by the 2014 story "A Rape on Campus," which was retracted after a police investigation found no evidence to back up the harrowing account of the woman identified in the story only as "Jackie."

The Virginia Alpha Chapter of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity, which had sought $25 million, said in a statement that its members are glad to be able to put the "ordeal" behind them.

"It has been nearly three years since we, and the entire University of Virginia community, were shocked by the now infamous article, and we are pleased to be able to close the book on that trying ordeal and its aftermath," the fraternity said.

Rolling Stone declined to comment.

Oh the truth of Rolling Stone shown to be lies which you accept as truth !!!!!! Showing you as idiots is way to easy because you must know i can use Al Gore's Internet which is complicated for your 1 brain cell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Violence
1 point

the government could wind up spending $200 million to substantiate.

No evidence to support the premise.

Side: Violence