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Support our troops. No dictatorship.
Debate Score:141
Arguments:71
Total Votes:156
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Trump wants military parade, what say you?

Support our troops.

Side Score: 93
VS.

No dictatorship.

Side Score: 48

Our country has had many military parades. They are nothing new. But of course, the left will find a way to make it racist or misogynystic or Russian.

Side: Support our troops.
mrcatsam(661) Disputed
2 points

You're forgetting that there isn't valid reason for this parade, right?

I mean, he could celebrate your troops overseas, but you guys haven't won anything. Yet.

He's uselessly spending your taxes on a parade, when there is a vast majority of other things to do with it.

Side: No dictatorship.
5 points

I don't support having a parade. I simply dispute that having one makes you a Nazi...

Side: Support our troops.
Antrim(1286) Disputed
1 point

Hey Limey, (supposedly),

Have you had a look at your own economy?

Your so called health service has all but collapsed.

Your roads are among the worst in Europe and your railways are grinding to a halt.

You've an aircraft carrier without any planes and your brave military personnel are still ''lions led by donkeys'.

As in two world wars we had to bail your under equipped and poorly led troops out of Helmand Province in Afghanistan.

Our troops had to donate your guys proper boots and other pieces of equipment which you illustrious Ministry of Defence overlooked.

For a dummy Limey to come on here and have the audacity to tell Americans how their government should spend taxpayer's money, is the height of misplaced self importance.

From Dunkirk and Singapore onwards you dummies got kicked out of every theatre of war in which you were involved and came looking for Uncle Sam to save the day for you.

Get your own house in order before you come on to an American debating forum spewing out the arrogant rhetoric of a ''has been'' nation.

Side: Support our troops.
joebloggs Disputed
1 point

Our country has had many military parades. They are nothing new. But of course, the left will find a way to make it racist or misogynystic or Russian.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Nuremburg Parade, Germany 1938
Side: No dictatorship.
3 points

I don't know what you're talking about

Please, do explain what a random link of a German parade from 1938 has to do with American military parades. I'd love to see how the brain of an embacile works.

If you want to watch a U.S. military parade, go on YouTube and watch them. They have happened all throughout history.

Side: Support our troops.
outlaw60(15367) Disputed
2 points

Oh no Joe there are Russians everywhere what are we to do ?

Side: Support our troops.
2 points

Everyone should support and be in step with AMERICAN military personnel marching proudly in AMERICA.

America is the most powerful military nation on earth, so if you've got it, flaunt it.

Side: Support our troops.
joebloggs Disputed
2 points

America is the most powerful military nation on earth, so if you've got it, flaunt it.

Your posts make me suspicious that Hitler may have gotten away and fled to America.

Side: No dictatorship.
3 points

He did. He taught progressives how to monopolize the media, brainwash kids through academia, and how to shout down and call your opponents names to try and shut them up.

Side: Support our troops.
outlaw60(15367) Disputed
2 points

Joe it is possible that you need to try and find Hitler ? He might be hiding in the deep crevices of your confused mind ? What are you going to do if you find him ?

Side: Support our troops.
Antrim(1286) Clarified
2 points

Now that you've discovered my guilty secret I'll send you a copy of my latest edition of Mein kampf if you would provide me with your address.

Side: Support our troops.
AlofRI(3285) Clarified
1 point

This guy in the Oval Office makes me think the same thing!

Side: Support our troops.
2 points

The millions this will cost, in taxpayer money, would "support our troops" better invested in the VA! If Comrade Trump wants a parade, let HIM pay for it out of the money wasted on his "wall"! It will do about as much good!

BWAAAhaha! If Kim can play with HIS soldiers, why can't I! BWAAhaha

Side: Support our troops.
Antrim(1286) Disputed
2 points

You're just bursting with national pride.

A real resentful bin hocking loser from the ghettos.

Side: No dictatorship.
mrcatsam(661) Disputed
2 points

Okay. You literally pick on anyone who doesn't support a useless parade?

All I'm saying is that before you pick on Britain, ask yourself whether this parade is entirely worthwhile, seeing that there are a billion other things your president could spend money on that would actually accomplish something.

Side: Support our troops.
1 point

I'm sure if any other president wanted a military parade everyone would be "he is supporting our troops, he truly is a great president"

Its just a military parade

Side: Support our troops.
4 points

If he wants to support our troops he should spend that money on healthcare and/or equipment for them, but I think we all know that the only reason he wants a parade is to stroke his ego and act tough.

Side: No dictatorship.
cruzaders(326) Disputed
1 point

I see what you mean, and I aggree with you it would be more effective to spend that money on equipment and other stuff; here he is showing his public support to the army wich his supporters will like, while promoting nationalistic feelings. I dont think it is about his ego, and the other countries of the world will perceive this not as Trump acting but an american display of power. With this parade americans have nothing or not much to loose and everything to gain

Side: Support our troops.
1 point

That sounds like an excellent opportunity for a rogue general to lay waste to all the Washington elite including the POTUS. Maybe they'll even showcase new secret weapons like microwave canons. Sounds fun. Bring the kids, just don't get too close.

Side: Support our troops.
1 point

That's how they got Sadat.

The very LAST thing I want is for Trump to be assassinated. His stupid name would be forever smeared on Airports and High Schools all over my country.

Supporting Evidence: The assassination of Anwar Sadat (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: Support our troops.
4 points

I'd say if he wants to support our troops he should do so in a manner that betters the military healthcare and decreases the number of homeless/jobless veterans. This one day parade is a damn waste of money and an empty gesture when we have so many of our military having to wait weeks to months to see a specialist and hundreds, if not thousands, of our veterans who can't re-acclimate to civilian life.

Side: No dictatorship.
KJVPrewrath(967) Disputed
1 point

I support our troops enough to not glamorize war. I will peacefully protest................................................................................

Side: Support our troops.

The country is more than 20 trillion dollars in debt, no thanks to Bush and Obama. Now Trump wants to spend millions on a parade so he can beat his chest and pump up his already over-inflated ego. Good grief!

Side: No dictatorship.

Fair enough, but the tickets sold could generate revenue, but I haven't studied political science yet.

Side: No dictatorship.
LittleMisfit(1745) Clarified
4 points

The military parade in 1991 cost more than 8 million. That was 27 years ago. The cost of things has gone up 61.91% since then. So, if we adjust for inflation, a similar parade would cost around 12.96 million. Only 200,000 people attended the 1991 parade, which was to celebrate the end of Desert Storm. There is no good reason for this parade other than to stroke Trump's ego, so I doubt attendance would be very high, especially considering his approval rating is the lowest of any president's first year since Gallup starting tracking it in 1945. If Trump wants to act tough, he needs to pay for it himself.

Side: Support our troops.
outlaw60(15367) Disputed
1 point

Tickets are to be sold to a military parade ? Do you have a website for what you say ?

Side: Support our troops.
1 point

Hello K:

I dunno.. A military victory is worth a parade.. But, we haven't been victorious since.......... well, a LONG time ago. We're LOSING in Afghanistan.... We're LOSING in Iraq. Kim jon un has our number...

What is to celebrate by having a parade????? LOSING???? DUDE!!!

excon

Side: No dictatorship.
3 points

We're LOSING in Iraq.

We are? Last I heard, ISIS had lost 97% of its territory...

Kim jon un has our number

Haven't heard from Fatboy in a while. They must have gotten the "my button is bigger than yours and it works" memo.

Side: Support our troops.
outlaw60(15367) Disputed
1 point

Super Stupid are you not a veteran ? You claim to be don't you ?

Side: Support our troops.
1 point

If Trump is so crazy about the military why did he hide from the draft?

I know he had a lot of pussy grabbing to do so I suppose that's one thing,

but my guess is simple cowardice.

5 fake deferments. No one ever saw him limp, he never had surgery and

now he can't remember which heel the fake bone spur was supposed to be on.

Side: No dictatorship.
1 point

My great grandfather was in Sherman's Army of the Tennessee and marched in this parade.

Grand Review of the Armies

MAY 23-24, 1865

Over a Two-day period in Washington, D.C., May 23-24, 1865, the immense, exultant victory parade of the Union's main fighting forces in many ways brought the Civil War to its conclusion. With the nation's new president, Andrew Johnson, declaring on May 10 that all armed resistance was "virtually at an end," plans commenced for the review. It would far eclipse the two victory celebrations held before the assassination of Abraham Lincoln and bring Washington out of its formal mourning period for the slain president.

William Tecumseh Sherman's Army of Georgia, just finishing its 2,000-mile march through the heart of the Confederacy, arrived from North Carolina and bivouacked around the capital near George Gordon Meade's Army of the Potomac. Though the two armies camped on opposite sides of the river, the troops met up with one another in the taverns and brothels of Washington, D.C., where the customary rivalries led to numerous fistfights.

Sherman, concerned that Meade's army would outshine his own in the upcoming parade, was not immune from the rivalry either, Ordering some last-minute drilling and spit and polish sessions to whip his ragged troops into marching shape, Sherman knew they could not match the close-order discipline that the Army of the Potomac perfected.

The parade's first day was devoted to Meade's force, which, as the capital's defending army, was a crowd favorite. May 23 was a clear, brilliantly sunny day. Starting from Capitol Hill, the Army of the Potomac marched down Pennsylvania Avenue before virtually the entire population of Washington, a throng of thousands cheering and singing favorite Union marching songs. At the reviewing stand in front of the White House were President Johnson, General-in-Chief Ulysses S. Grant, and top government officials. Leading the day's march, General Meade dismounted in front of the stand and joined the dignitaries to watch the parade. His army made an awesome sight: a force of 80,000 infantrymen marching 12 across with impeccable precision, along with hundreds of pieces of artillery and a seven-mile line of cavalrymen that alone took an hour to pass. One already famous cavalry officer, George Armstrong Custer, gained the most attention that day-either by design or because his horse was spooked when he temporarily lost control of his mount, causing much excitement as he rode by the reviewing stand twice.

The next day was Sherman's turn. Beginning its final march at 9 A.M. on another beautiful day, his 65,000-man army passed in review for six hours, with less precision, certainly, than Meade's forces, but with a bravado that thrilled the crowd. Along with the lean, tattered, and sunburnt troops was the huge entourage that had followed Sherman's on his march to the sea: medical workers, laborers, black families who fled from slavery, the famous "bummers" who scavenged for the army's supplies, and a menagerie of livestock gleaned from the Carolina and Georgia farms. Riding in front of his conquering force, Sherman later called the experience "the happiest and most satisfactory moment of my life."

For the thousands of soldiers participating in both days of the parade, it was one of their final military duties. Within a week of the Grand Review, the Union's two main armies were both disbanded.

Supporting Evidence: The Grand Review of the Armies (ghostsofdc.org)
Side: No dictatorship.