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Was Trump was fly in globalist elite's soup?

Donald Trump was the first President as of late, that was rich enough that they could not easily be bought. He's the first President as of late that political correctness could not muzzle or shame into silence. This is why the globalist enfrastructure is breaking down. The globalist media is beyond panicked. The propaganda, slogans, and shaming has always worked before. But not today.




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wasn't fly

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What you say is true. Trump is not only a fly in their soup, he is their worst nightmare.

Finally for the first time in our lifetime we have a President who does not care what they think or say about him. He does not care if he gets re elected. He only cares about making America great again and in doing so will put him down in history as the greatest President ever.

A miracle he would be and a miracle is what it took to stop these radical Leftist Socialists from taking over this nation.

He is standing up for the tens of millions of Americans that the Liberal Left had abandoned. He actually cares for the working man more than the lazy people scamming our system.

He's standing up for our Constitution as written and as should be interpreted.

He cares about keeping all Americans safe from those who would harm us, or use us.

He's accomplished more in 100 days than Obama did in eight years. Already illegal immigrations has gone way down. Alredy the stock market is taking off with good job numbers and relief from intrusive Democrat mandates.

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Was fly. The end. *

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Shame others?

That's still the greatest dream you guys want to achieve.

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1 point

You must have missed the left's preaching about some subject moral code about how you talk about women, immigration, and Islam.

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1 point

That's irrelevant, and doesn't change what I said.

Though I can argue for that, you should ask such questions when they are related to the topic.

Anything else?

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You are, of course, absolutely right. Trump, with his golden elevators, cabinet stuffed full of investment bankers and massive tax cuts for the already ludicrously wealthy, is the one person who is willing to stand up for the interests of the working man, and could not possibly be a member of any "elite".

Do you guys even realise how ridiculous you sound?

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1 point

Why not? Maybe it's a challenge to him to beat Soros. Explain to us how making the rich poorer makes you richer.

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stswebb(73) Disputed
1 point

George Soros, the man who broke the Bank of England, versus Donald Trump, the man behind SIX separate bankruptcies? I'd like to see that!

And when did all this nonsense about Soros start anyway? It only seems to have become a wingnut trope in the last few months. I guess it just fits in with the general conservative pattern of believing that some nefarious international conspiracy is responsible for their own failures, but it still seems decidedly odd.

And no, I don't believe that making the rich pay their fair share of taxes into the public purse would necessarily make me richer directly. The point, though, is that in a civilised society we have responsibilities towards each other, and one of those responsibilities is paying one's fair share of tax, something which it is becoming increasingly obvious that the rich aren't doing.

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Trump is a super wealthy cronyist Democrat. He isn't doing any of the Republican minded things he said he would do. Wasn't he going to "lock her up", "build a wall", and "repeal and replace"? Instead he is letting let her go (why does it even matter?), maintaining a fence, (built under Obama), and keeping ObamaCare (with minor alterations).

He has never been a Capitalist. I don't know how anyone can think he is a hero of the Right. But hey, at least he is also pretty shitty person.

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Bill Clinton was a crappy person. The left told us he was the greatest President in modern history.

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Amarel(5669) Disputed
1 point

Bill Clinton was a crappy person. The left told us he was the greatest President in modern history

So what?

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Trump is a super wealthy cronyist Democrat

Then what exactly is the left whining like hounds about...

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Amarel(5669) Disputed
1 point

I guess because he is so rude about it. Also, he is not wearing their gang colors.

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He isn't doing any of the Republican minded things he said he would do.

He's a hundred days in. Obama didn't go scorched Earth on pounding the leftist nonsense nuclear style until his second term..

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Amarel(5669) Disputed
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Trump said he wasn't going to Perdue prosecution of Hillary. He already provided ObamaCare light without ever talking of actual repeal. He pointed at Obamas Fence and took credit as if it's his wall. The failures I pointed to were achieved already. He never will repeal. He never will persue Hillary. There's still time for his wall but not with the way he "makes deals". He may be the worst deal person to ever deal with deals.

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Instead he is letting let her go (why does it even matter?)

"Art of the Deal". Read his book. He has leverage to keep her out and strongarm the left. Once she goes to prison that leverage is gone, and it'd be political suicide with independents and moderates to bull towards a political arrest.

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Amarel(5669) Disputed
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Most of what he got elected on was promise of political suicide. No one wants people to do what is politically "safe" or "correct"

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He has never been a Capitalist

Well... he didn't go from a $1 million loan to $10 billion by being a Socialist, a Communist, or "other"....

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Amarel(5669) Disputed
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Investing does not mean you care about Capitalism. He used Government force of eminent domain to acquire land for private gain. He was a little tyrant before he was ever a President. Crony Capitalism is not actually Capitalism, but it plays it on TV.

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Hello bront:

Wait, WHAT??

Haven't you heard?? The Donald is a PROUD globalist now.. Didn't they tell you that over on YouTube?

http://www.redstate.com/kylefoley/2016/08/31/despite-nationalist-base-donald-trump-proud-globalist/

excon

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DBCooper(2194) Clarified
5 points

EX VET you following BR around like a little puppy dog. Beware of your words they have a way of coming back around to YOU.

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Cartman(18192) Disputed
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It's hilarious that you follow a guy around like a puppy to tell him he is following a guy around like a puppy.

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Oh? Well then you have nothing to worry about. He's on your side, so you'll start supporting him now....

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