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Debate Score:64
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Total Votes:80
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UN comes out in defense of ANTIFA

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UN comes out in defense of ANTIFA

Hello T:

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

excon

Side: Good position
Creamcheese(74) Disputed
1 point

The enemy of your enemy sees you as their enemy. In fact, they say you are shot first.

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Side: Bad position
BRONT(423) Disputed
1 point

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

That's interesting. By this logic, a far right group is your friend if it opposes another far right group. We both know that neither is your friend.

Side: Bad position
AlofRI(3138) Clarified
1 point

That COULD be somewhat true ... but I don't know ANY far-right group that opposes another far-right group! They may have a slight variation In ideology and tactic, but, a far-right group, by any other name ........ ;-)

Side: Good position
1 point

ANYTHING anti-fascist is a good thing. Too bad they wouldn't organize into a legitimate organization and become a "movement"! We have SOOO many fascists in the NEW Washington Swamp we need to get rid of! That takes leadership. They should find a leader, become multi-racial ... white people hate fascists too! Give out membership cards like the NRA! (I've cut that one up, a fascist runs it now. :-)

Side: Good position
BRONT(423) Disputed
1 point

ANYTHING anti-fascist is a good thing.

ANTIFA are openly Communists. Communists literally created Fascism.

Giovanni Gentile (30 May 1875–15 April 1944) was an Italian philosopher, politician[1] and an educator known as the "Philosopher of Fascism." He contributed to the rise of Italian fascism and was the ghostwriter of Benito Mussolini's essay, The Doctrine of Fascism. He was influenced by Karl Marx, Engels and Friedrich Nietzsche among others. Under Il Duce, Gentile became the Minister of Public Education and started a reform of Italian edcuation.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Giovanni_Gentile

Side: Bad position
excon(14555) Disputed
2 points

ANTIFA are openly Communists. Communists literally created Fascism.

Hello bront:

Yawn... Lemme see.. Anti fascism means fascism. Fascists are communists. Nazis have socialist in their name, so they're communist too.. Everybody knows, the Democrats are communists..

Yawn.... Dude! Step away from the FOX News.. It's rotting your brain.

excon

Side: Good position
AlofRI(3138) Clarified
1 point

Really, Bronto. Who actually cares about one man's (Gentile's) philosophy over the majority of the world's philosophy?? I will admit, communists WERE anti-fascist, as was the most of the world. Most of the world was NOT communist, still isn't. Anything anti-fascist is NOT necessarily communist, STILL! Geovanni can keep his opinion, Karl Marx can keep HIS. Today is today and America needs NONE of that crap! WE DO need anti-fascism cause it's breathing down our necks AGAIN! :-(And it's emanating from our own WHITE HOUSE)!

Side: Good position
1 point

They aren't anti-fascists; they embody fascism. They use brownshirt tactics to intimidate and silence those they disagree with through violence. Assault & battery, vandalism and arson are the order of the day with this group.

Side: Bad position
AlofRI(3138) Clarified
3 points

They use brownshirt tactics ... Oh, you mean like the no-name militarists around the White House that drove off the legal citizens?? The ICE guys that break down doors or abduct people off the streets?? THose "Brown Shirt" tactics?? The assault and battery, the illegal imprisonment? The removal of children from their mothers?? THOSE Brown Shirt" tactics?? Those that disagree with ALL that stuff?? Wel;l, I guess you can call ME ANTIFA! I'm white, but, I haven't seen anything that says ... Because you're white you can't be anti-fascist! (As most Democrats are ... and anti-communist too! ;-)

But, but, THOSE are the tactics Antifa is objecting to! The right MUST be so confused! I KNOW EXACTLY what I am "ANTI", it's ANTI-TRUMP, ANTI HITLER, ANTI-FASCIST, ANTI-COMMUNIST! No confusion THERE! :-)

Side: Good position
2 points

They aren't anti-fascists; they embody fascism.

You're just literally a fucking idiot. Antifa doesn't even have a leader and the grounding principle of fascism is autocracy. Shut your stupid fucking face you contemptibly dishonest tit.

Side: Good position
1 point

They use brownshirt tactics to intimidate and silence those they disagree with through violence.

Your fascist propaganda is just outrageously stupid. By the same logic the allies embodied fascism and "brownshirt tactics" during the second world war, and to a much greater extent than Antifa. You are a pathetic extreme far right rodent who is trying to conflate fascism, a political belief, with violence, a course of action humans have taken for as long as there have been humans.

Side: Good position
BRONT(423) Disputed
0 points

Too bad they wouldn't organize into a legitimate organization and become a "movement"!

Yes. A much larger group of white privileged rich kids who shoot 3 of each other with no right wingers present is definitely needed. Let's create that.

Side: Bad position
1 point

Whatever organisation, such as the United Nations which is no more than a toothless tiger declares should be taken with a dose of salts.

For a kick-off the name is an oxymoron, they are not a body of ''United Nations''.

Whether ANTIFA is a united group of terrorists or a loosely knit collection of subversive misfits they have a command structure and conspire as a union to carry out terrorist activities against the state.

Maybe the United Nations have redefined the classification of a terrorist organisation.

Side: Bad position
1 point

Whether ANTIFA is a united group of terrorists or a loosely knit collection of subversive misfits they have a command structure and conspire as a union to carry out terrorist activities against the state.

Yeah, the French Resistance did the same thing, only they were much more extreme. They blew the fascists up rather than beat them up. You'd have hated those guys.

Side: Good position
Creamcheese(74) Disputed
1 point

Yeah, the French Resistance did the same thing, only they were much more extreme

2020 ANTIFA isn't the French Resistence. The French resistence knew what gender they were.

Side: Bad position

The anti-fascist fascists are anti-establishment anarchists who use brownshirt tactics to disrupt peaceful gatherings thru violence to silence and intimidate law-abiding citizens. Why the UN supports this is beyond me, but they just prove how irrelevant and anti US they've become.

Side: Bad position
1 point

The anti-fascist fascists

I honestly just have to gawp in amazement at the sheer stupidity of the accusations which come out of the mouths of idiots like you. How exactly can someone be an anti-fascist fascist? If someone is anti-fascist they stand against fascism so stop raping your own language and shut your mouth.

Side: Good position

Who in the UN is defending Antifa?

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Side: Bad position
2 points

Who in the UN is defending Antifa?

I would guess any Communists and left wing European leaders.

Side: Good position