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United Kingdom France
Debate Score:62
Arguments:50
Total Votes:85
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United Kingdom VS France

Which of these countries is the best, and why? 

United Kingdom

Side Score: 37
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France

Side Score: 25
2 points

Okay people, lets be realistic here. I mean when was the last time the French won a war?

Side: United Kingdom
RogueCaptain(19) Disputed
1 point

Pall, the French have won more wars. Let me change that. France has won more MAJOR wars than America has ever fought in. History did not start in the 20th century. Hear about Nopoleon. And France and England generals were idiot during ww11 start. If the UK was connected to Europe, it would have been conquerd by France in Nopoleons time, and many times over. Hear about the battle of dunkirk? French troops saved England in that battle. Crack open a history book sometimes

Side: France
GenericName(3430) Clarified
1 point

Maginot Line.

Side: United Kingdom

UK..., because I hate the stinking, spineless, French. ;)

Side: United Kingdom
0 points

All my life I listened to Americans talk shit about the French. Then, I finally went there.

Right away, I was like "wow! Everything I ever heard was complete and utter bullshit!"

The French are some really good people. There culture's a lot different than ours, but that doesn't make them bad people. Nor does it make them spineless. The United States would have never won their independence with the assistance of the French. And France is the birth place of human rights.

Side: France

Dude..., you should like totally go live there..., I mean it..., seriously... ;)

Side: France
0 points

Hell yeah! The French are nothing but stinky FROGS!

Announcer: "Pew, Stinky Frenchman"

Frank: ♪♪ Paris is lovely ♪♪

♪♪ And Nice sure is nice ♪♪

♪♪ And Marseille is charming with champagne on ice ♪♪

♪♪ But you, stinky Frenchman ♪♪

♪♪ Haven't a clue ♪♪

♪♪ Pew, stinky Frenchman ♪♪

♪♪ Frog You ♪♪

Frog You!
Side: United Kingdom
0 points

Us, because we aren't French.

Rule Britannia!

Britannia rule the waves

Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

Side: United Kingdom
0 points

The UK. I can't understand anything those french people say.

Side: United Kingdom
Boris(23) Clarified
0 points

They speak another language, and as you speak a different language to them, that's very hypocritical.

Side: United Kingdom
0 points

Based solely on the people, the UK is one of my favourite nations, outside of Oireland that is, a lot of the French are incredibly ignorant and the ones I've met that I really liked tend to hate France.

Now far be it from me to make a broad generalisation about the French but in my years as a Chef I've worked with plenty.

In France the people have very little time for foreigners and scoff openly at those that make simple pronunciation mistakes while themselves when in an English speaking country give long protracted moans between their words while tutting and sucking their teeth if you don't understand them.

Side: United Kingdom
0 points

I don't see thousands of people in the uk trying to buy a book from a french author though i do see french people going to buy the harry potter series ;P

In all seriousness though i think the Uk since i feel we have donated more on a global scale historically and the only reason, one could argue, the allies won ww2 was because of the uk the french kinda just well....got their ass handed to them.

Side: United Kingdom
-1 points

We owned the French in the Battle of Trafalger. We ruled the waves and our empire was so healthy with trade that we didn't even need to bother about Napoleanic Europe's trade embargo against us.

Side: United Kingdom

Oh my, did the Frenchies get pissed off at how their empire was always slightly less impressive than ours?

Side: United Kingdom
1 point

No, some of the atheist noobs who recently joined are going around downvoting all my arguments. Well, I've learnt my lesson not to join religious debates.

Side: United Kingdom
4 points

I don't normally do this but just for shits and giggles I'll argue the other side because there are so many Brit nationalists on this site (My honest answer would be the UK)

1. Capitals: I've been to both London and Paris and Paris is much, much cooler than London.

2. Climate: Duh. The gloom and doom of Brit weather would be like Seattle.... I'd want to kill myself. At least in France you have the option of going to a real beach that is warm year round with palm trees and such. ;)

3. Food: Meh? I didn't see anything special about French food to be honest.... all northern European food sucks! But at least I could have Fish & Chips in England... Wait, I'm supposed to be arguing France now so scratch that.

4. Terrain: French Alps... end of argument.

5. Beaches: French riviera... end of argument.

Side: France
ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
2 points

OK, I'll let you have American pride... but Hellno, you cross a line when you start with the Frenchies.

Paris is full of filthy fucking hobos, and smells like dying animals.

French weather is almost exactly the same as British weather, sometimes we're hotter.

Bacon. We have bacon.

The Alps aren't exclusively French. We have Mount Mediocre.

Cleethorpes beach is much nicer than the French Riviera (I seriously hope you don't know where Cleethorpes is).

Side: United Kingdom
3 points

Well, as I said my real answer would be the UK... I was mearly playing Devil's Advocate.

Paris is full of filthy fucking hobos, and smells like dying animals.

I really do like Paris a lot... it's easier to walk around Paris than it is London IMO.

French weather is almost exactly the same as British weather, sometimes we're hotter.

Now, now.... southern French weather is pretty dang nice.

Bacon. We have bacon.

Well, I can't possible argue against that except.... your bacon isn't like that fake ass Canadian bacon is it?

The Alps aren't exclusively French.

True, and the Swiss Alps are the best.

We have Mount Mediocre.

LOL

Cleethorpes beach is much nicer than the French Riviera (I seriously hope you don't know where Cleethorpes is).

LOL! No, no I didn't but I googled it and it doesn't look much better than the only Brit beach I went to which was Brighton Beach... not terrible, but just sort of like New York beaches.... I prefer a beach that has palm trees.

Side: United Kingdom
1 point

I'm just curious. Have you ever actually been to France or is this just something you got listening to Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity? I found Paris to be one of the cleanest, most beautiful cities I had ever visited, absolutely beautiful environment and people. No "fuck hobos" and no "dying animals". Honestly, if you saw this, tell me where, because I didn't see any of that. I think you're just making that up, because you're one of the people who was eating "freedom fries".

And with the weather? Have you ever actually been to France. I spent about two months there and don't recall a single cloudy day. Not at all like U.K., not even a little bit. It was warm, sunny, cloudless. I got a suntan. Even if you've had the great fortunate of going someplace nicer, it's not like France is a shit-hole. I liked it a lot better than USA or UK. And I've even given some consideration to moving there.

I would take France over America any day of the week.

Side: France
0 points

Yes, they may have physical features that could make them slightly better than Britain. But that fact remains that Britain be France in India; we beat France at the battle of Trafalger; we beat France in Canada and America; we beat them in Africa, and we saved them in WWII.

Britain trumps Frace.

Side: France
1 point

Well, as I said my real answer would be the UK.... I was jusy pointing out a couple things and once again.... I didn't down-vote you. Damn Ax! You got a mad down-voter on your trail.... who'd you piss off this time? LOL

Side: France

First, I believe you intended to call this column France.

Secondly, I really think the question is stupid. You're comparing two completely different things. When you look at the United Kingdom, it's easy to see where the Americans got their aggressiveness from, but being aggressive isn't always a good thing. Sometimes, it's downright destructive. The fact is that the Americans could not have won their independence without the assistance of the French. Furthermore, France is the birthplace of human rights. Much of the philosophy that has shaped the world was born in France. For whatever reason, it has become fashionable to dislike the French. I just came from France a few weeks ago and I found that virtually everything I had heard about France was false. It's a beautiful country, beautiful people. I love France, one of the best places I've ever been.

Side: France
Axmeister(4322) Disputed
1 point

"The fact is that the Americans could not have won their independence without the assistance of the French."

Let's not forget that the Americans also recieved help from the Spanish and the Dutch (as if they could defeat Britain on their own).

"Furthermore, France is the birthplace of human rights."

I hope you're not talking about the French Revolution

"Much of the philosophy that has shaped the world was born in France."

And Britain.

Side: United Kingdom
Micmacmoc(2260) Clarified
1 point

"I believe you intended to call this column France"

Sorry, I was half asleep when I made this.

Side: United Kingdom
ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
1 point

Get the fuck out.

No seriously.

Get the fuck out

Side: United Kingdom
1 point

I would say France. One, because i am French, and two, because they have better food, culture, health care, weather :P Government, they don't sump their shit in the sea, e.t.c. UK is bad because, they have the highest unemployment rates in the whole of Europe they have the fattest women in europe, their NHS stinks to high heaven. And don't say "but it's free!" Because dog turds in your local park are also free, but they're still shite. Your weather is appauling, there aren't such things as seasons. Life expectancy is very low, the educational system is complete bollocks e.t.c. These are all valid points! Though obviously the UK is far better than a lot of places, it has good thigns, better usic than France, and better sense of humor. but really that doesn't compare. Plus the UK has a greater population than France despite the fact it's smaller! I prefer France to be 'frank' (only some will get that...)

Side: France
ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
1 point

Who saved your ass in WW1? Oh that's right, the British.

Who saved your ass in WW2? Oh that's right, the British.

Who beat your ass in the Napoleonic wars? Oh that's right, the British.

Who beat your ass in the seven years war? Oh that's right, the British.

Pipe down Frenchie.

Side: United Kingdom
Jungelson(3959) Disputed
1 point

That's no intelligent way to argue is it? No, you just made yourself look like a nationalist.m I'll give you ww1, but i think if Britain was located right next to Germany, a country bigger than it at the time, and they came marching in to you, you to would have surrendered :L You didn't beat us in the Napoleonic wars did you. No, as far as France v Britain, France won. The Prussians beat the French, not you British twats, napoleon tore apart your army. So you have 2 points. care to put forth anymore?? Your country sucks. And saying the British, to make your self sound better is false as well, half the Scotts don't even like you! You can stay in your country receiving poor health care and dying before you're thirty in the freezing cold summers! Chuck i've read your debates, and not one of them i liked!!! I know you don't care, as i'm sure you'll reply, but saying "pipe down Frenchie" isn't exactly a sign of a towering intellect. Nope. Given i am French i have expected this kind of response from you anyway!! I do live in England and have for 4 years now. And still i don't like it... But it's not even my country. you're trying to defend how great ti is, when i hear loads of people complaining about it too!

Side: France
1 point

Totally agree :3 was going to put this myself then saw it was already here

Side: United Kingdom
RogueCaptain(19) Disputed
1 point

France fought most of the allies war on the western side of ww1. Losing over a million soldiers.More than England. I still think even without the US, France and England (Mostly France) would have beat the Germans due to tanks. During ww11, the French saved your ass during the battle of dunkirk, so in reality France saved England. Nopoleonic war, Not just England who beat France. For nopoleon, that would have been a wonderful way to beat England to a pulp. No, it was all of Europe against France. And at Waterloo, the British were reatred when the Fresh prussian army came into to beat the tired French army. So you needed lot of help there. In the 7 years war, the question why werent you winning from the very start. But not, it was in Frances hands then.

Side: France
Micmacmoc(2260) Disputed
0 points

"Better ... culture"

That is a matter of opinion and is not a valid fact.

"Their NHS stinks to high heaven"

How so? Admittedly France does spend a lot on their healthcare, but does that instantly mean that our NHS "stinks to high heaven"? Of course it doesn't. Just because France spends a lot of money on healthcare does not mean that France's healthcare is better than our's. The standard of the healthcare is down to the education systems of the countries, and we have a very good education system indeed.

Our healthcare does not stink to high heaven. I did laugh at that.

"Life expectancy is very low"

No, it isn't.

Whilst it is true that France's life expectancy is high, we are just behind you! With 0.2 of a years difference in average life expectancy there is very little difference between us at all in that matter, and it could very well be set to change.

Anyway, our life expectancy for males is one entire year more than your life expectancy for males, meaning that if you are male then Britain is a place where you shall live longer compared to France.

However, neither of us have bad life expectancies: in Swaziland males are only expected to live up to 31 years.

"The educational system is complete bollocks"

No it isn't.

I think this is one of the biggest, and most important points of all, for education dictates the decisions that are made which shape the country in the future - and seen as we have a fantastic education system it appears that we will have a very good future indeed.

Our system means that the pupils who are able can apply for places at grammar schools and maybe (if they are bright enough) apply to some of the very top schools for scholarships. The state sector is not so fortunate as a consequence of this, but the divides are not what they once were. Nowadays people can get from the very bottom to the very top. It requires underlying intelligence, of course, and in the ever-growing world a creative mind cannot be underestimated. And we have a very creative country. All kinds of amazing inventions derive from Great Britain, and many will continue to do so in the future.

The top schools are not as 'snobbish' as they may have been portrayed as in the past, and many of them provide great opportunities for people from state schools, so that the able students are not immediately disadvantaged because of their backgrounds.

The education system in Britain is very closely tied to our culture and this is a good thing, for it means that our culture is constantly being educated. An example of how closely the education system is linked to our culture is the fact that the rowing lake used in the Olympics belonged to a school called Eton. This school is a classic example of how great our education system is, and has produced 19 British Prime Ministers since it was founded by our monarchy. France decided, though, that it was best to massacre their monarchy, and because of this they have suffered some complications involving some systems in the past.

We have a better education system.

Side: United Kingdom
Jungelson(3959) Disputed
1 point

Better education, yet you still teach people about Sherlock Holmes at GCSE level. You teach absolutely nothing on grammar, Mathematics are at a very low level i have seen the Maths equivalent and it is way better than the system in (England i am unsure as to how the system differs in Scotland/Wales/ NI.) And your little thing about how Eton has produced 19 prime ministers. How in any way does that back you up?! Prime ministers do normally go to University yes, so they have to come from somewhere. Whether it's Eton, Harvard (P) e.t.c. Yes the NHS stinks, if you walk in to a French hospital saying you have Chest pains, they'll check you out immediately. England? They direct you to the waiting room, make you wait for a few hours before the doctors tell you "It's OK it's just angina!" Might i point out this is how my father nearly died, his GP told him he had angina, when he was in the middle of a heart attack... But that's beside the point. Why haven't you corrected me on my other points?!?! And i am sorry but yes the educational system does suck. Come GCSE your choices are more limited, and you can only do a certain amount. The teachers are always on strike, and if you ever can get back to school, the teaching standards are bad anyway! But i respect your views ;P

Side: France
1 point

Oh and by the way, for everyone out there going to put forth a "waterloo" remark, let em inform you that, even though Napoleon was a complete bastard, he acomplished far more than Wellington ever did. Wellington took all the credit for something he didn't really do. Of course he hurt the French bad. But his armys were, completely bled out! Napoleon was already sending messages back saying he had won. Wellington was retreating when the Persians came out of nowhere just on time. They beat Napoleons army, not the British. Without the Persians, napoleon would surely have won.

United Kingdom

United Netherlands

Hanover

Nassau

Brunswick

Prussia v France

Side: France
Axmeister(4322) Disputed
1 point

I assume when you say the "Persians" what you really mean is the "Prussians".

And anyway, later on we beat France and Spain at the Battle of Trafalgar.

Side: United Kingdom

France is richer,and more US independent. If France cut ofsupply lines, game over GB

Side: France