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Of course That is false
Debate Score:51
Arguments:35
Total Votes:62
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SovietSpy(709) pic



Usually do the rich get richer and the poor get poorer?

Of course

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That is false

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3 points

This picture fits society to a tee. This has been this way for most of human history.

Side: Of course
1 point

This picture depicts the economic structure of "capitalism" as being static. In capitalism your economic level is not static, it is almost always changing, for better or for worse.

Side: That is false
kozlov(1754) Disputed
1 point

It always ends up the same way, as fascism.

But you may ask why?

Here is why... Suppose we start with your 'ideal capitalist libertarian Paradise' People are doing business, competition is tight, prices are average, people are suffering from exposure and scurvy (okay not always suffering from exposure and scurvy). Overall, things are not too bad. Then this guy comes in, he has very good ideas about his telecommunications company, his company grows and grows and buys some smaller telecommunications companies. Another man does the same, and before you know it, there are two main telecommunications companies. The two companies start pumping money into the government, "lubricating officials" to get rid of any anti- monopoly legislation. The corporations gain more and more power, and the people almost become paralyzed. The strange thing is, this is happening in every industry and soon our 'happy libertarian Paradise' turns into a fascist nightmare.

Side: Of course
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

Not really, inter generational mobility is actually rather low if you look at the numbers.

Mostly if there is mobility, it is down and really only rises if there are new industries and thus new markets being developed.

Side: Of course
1 point

This is and has been the model for most of human history because the willful know how to exploit weak and uninformed.

Side: Of course
2 points

Here is the link to another image with a modern twist.

http://spnyc.org/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Class_Pyramid_021.jpg

Side: Of course
2 points

Thank you, I chose the one on top well because that was the first I found.

Side: Of course
2 points

Exactly as it is, more or less. The bottom ones are pretty much slaves. To make it not look so bad some of those occasionally get lots of money so they can "rise" up, and so others wouldn't start rebelling by showing that they too "have a chance" to get up there. Also that you one can earn a lot by working a lot (actually, you can't, getting rich has nothing to do with working a lot). It's idiotic, the entire capitalism.

Then some of you wonder why I have a problem with current ways, why I state the fact that money is negative to human progress. Honestly, pull your heads out of your asses and view the world, not the walls of your shithole.

Side: Of course
1 point

Yes!!! Of course and I love this pic. by the way. The top 1% has control of the world and our future. The other 99% is looked at as a science experiment.

Side: Of course

screw them! poor people should get a job or they get what the get

Side: That is false
SovietSpy(709) Disputed
1 point

i will believe 100% when you go to Laos and convince them that they could fix their problems by getting a job.

Side: Of course
RandomDude(1286) Disputed
1 point

who said i was talking about laos? no one! thats who!

Side: That is false
1 point

No, this is not true. The rich don't actually get richer and the poor don't actually get poorer, it is simply where you draw the line...and there are more than one line. They move the "poor" line to a higher income level and move the "rich" line to a lower income level. It makes the divide look bigger yet there is really little change in wealth distribution!

Side: That is false
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

Are you talking about inflation?

If you look at the stats, you'll see that income growth for the lower incomes has stayed about the same recently, while for the higher and for those which make money off of investments it has skyrocketed.

Side: Of course