VOTE, VOTE, VOTE and VOTE SOME MORE!
Ok folks,
It is that time again! Time to go out and vote. I don't care who you are voting for (ok, yes I really do!), but get out and vote. Don't be lazy and not vote. If you don't vote, then you can't complain your candidate didn't win.
Just go VOTE!
So, Who are you going to vote for...this is the last chance poll!
Obama
Side Score: 81
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Side Score: 73
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just did - and here's a little bit of why: Partial list of economic accomplishments: > 32 consecutive months of private sector job growth totaling more than 5 million jobs > Unemployment down from a high of 10% in October 2009 and is now under 8% > The Dow has more than doubled since its low of 6,469.95 in March 2009 > Consumer Confidence Index is up and rising > Home values and housing starts are up > American car companies still exist and are thriving Partial list of accomplishments towards Equality: > signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act > eliminated Don't Ask Don't Tell > Declared DOMA unconstitutional and stopped defending it (and advocated its repeal) > Extend benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees > Banned discrimination in federal workplaces based on gender identity > new HUD rule against housing discrimination based on sexual orientation > Ensured hospital visitation and medical decision-making rights for gay and lesbian patients > Allowed transgender Americans to receive true gender passports without surgery > Permitted military chaplains to officiate same-sex marriages where legal > Restored sexual orientation to the United Nations definition of protected human rights > Appointed the most diverse Cabinet in history > Appointed more openly gay officials than any other president in history including several openly gay judges to the federal bench > Nominated 2 women to the Supreme court > Appointed the first Special Assistant to the President for Disability Policy > Signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act > Funded the design of a new Smithsonian National Museum of African American History > Signed the Fair Sentencing Act which reduces the sentencing disparity between powder and crack cocaine > Signed an Executive Order establishing a White House Council on Women and Girls > increased funding for the Violence Against Women Act > Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act > Increased minority access to capital Partial list of health care accomplishments: > Signed the James L. Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act providing medical treatment for responders and survivors who experienced or may experience health complications related to the 9/11 terrorist attacks > repealed the Bush-Era restrictions on embryonic stem cell research > Rescinded the Global Gag Rule > Eliminated federal funding for abstinence-only education >Signed the CHILDREN'S HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2009 which: - Will provide coverage to about 6.5 million more children - requires states to cover dental care under the children’s health program - allows states to provide dental coverage as a supplement to private insurance - mental health parity - equal coverage of mental and physical illnesses >Signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which: - Expands Medicaid to all non-Medicare eligible individuals under age 65 (children, pregnant women, parents, and adults without dependent children) with incomes up to 133% FPL - CHIP-eligible children who are unable to enroll in the program due to enrollment caps will be eligible for tax credits in the state Exchanges. - Provides employers with no more than 25 employees and average annual wages of less than $50,000 that purchase health insurance for employees with a tax credit. - Guarantees issue regardless of pre-existing condition - Provides rebates to consumers if the amount spent on clinical services, quality, and other costs if it is less than 85% of the premium for plans in the large group market and 80% for plans in the individual and small group markets - Provides dependent coverage for children up to age 26 - Prohibits individual and group health plans from placing lifetime or annual cost limits on coverage - Prohibits insurers from rescinding coverage except in cases of fraud - Limits any waiting periods for coverage to 90 days - Provides grants for up to five years to small employers that establish wellness programs - Requires coverage of several preventative screenings without copay - Closes the Medicare Part D donut whole - Provides loan repayment and retention grants for nurses Partial list of accomplishments in diplomacy: > Ended the war in Iraq > Set a firm timeline for ending the war in Afghanistan > Supported multi-lateral force to overthrow Gadhafi without any American lives lost > ordered the operation in which U.S. Navy Seal snipers killed three Somali Pirates and rescued Capt. Richard Phillips > Lead G-20 deal that produced a $1.1 trillion to combat the global financial crisis > Renewel of START treaty > Toughest sanctions on Iran in history > Trade agreement with Colombia > Trade agreement with Panama > Trade agreement with Korea > In his first six months in office he visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any other president > During his term as Commander in Chief, the US has killed - Osama Bin Laden - Saleh Ali Saleh (Somalian Al-Qaeda leader) - Saleh al-Somali (Al-Qaeda Operational Commander) - Abdallah Sa’id (Al-Qaeda Operational Commander) - Baitullah Mahsud (Tehrik i-Taliban Pakistan leader) - Tohir Yo‘ldosh (Co-founder of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan) - Hussein al-Yemeni (Al-Qaeda operative) - Abu Ayyub al-Masri (Al-Qaeda leader) - Abu Omar al-Baghdadi (Al-Qaeda leader) - Sheik Saeed al-Masri (Al-Qaeda’s number three commander) - Hawza al Jawfi and 7 other known terrorists - Abu Ali al Harithi (mid-level Qaeda operative) - Harun Fazul East Africa's Al-Qaeda senior leader - Atiyah Abd al-Rahman (Al-Qaeda No. 2) - Anwar al-Awlaki (Senior Al Qaeda leader) - Aslam Awan (Senior Al-Qaeda leader) - Fahd al-Quso (Senior Al-Qaida Leader) - Abu Yahya al-Libi (No.2 leader of Al Qaeda) - Ilyas Kashmiri (Al-Qaeda Commander) - Abu Hafs al Shahri (Al-Qaeda's operations chief for Pakistan) - Badar Mansoor (Pakistan Al-Qaeda leader) - Khaled Batis (top al-Qaida militant) - And many, many, many others He's created or extended 18 small business tax cuts and credits: 1. New Small Business Health Care Tax Credit 2. New Tax Credit for Hiring Unemployed Workers 3. Bonus Depreciation Tax Incentives to Support New Investment 4. 75% Exclusion of Small Business Capital Gains 5. Expansion of Limits on Small Business Expensing 6. Five-Year Carryback of Net Operating Losses 7. Reduction of the Built-In Gains Holding Period for Small Businesses from 10 to 7 Years to Allow Small Business Greater Flexibility in Their Investments 8. Temporary Small Business Estimated Tax Payment Relief to Allow Small Businesses to Keep Needed Cash on Hand 9. Zero Capital Gains Taxes on Key Investments in Small Businesses: 10. The Highest Small Business Expensing Limit Ever– Up to $500,000 11. Extension of 50% Bonus Depreciation 12. New Deduction for Health Care Expenses for the Self-Employed 13. Tax Relief and Simplification for Cell Phone Deductions 14. An Increase in The Deduction for Entrepreneurs’ Start-Up Expenses 15. Five-Year Carryback Of General Business Credits 16. Limitations on Penalties for Errors in Tax Reporting That Disproportionately Affect Small Business 17. 100% expensing of qualified properties 18. Tax credit for hiring veterans Also: > Created a new $30 billion Small Business Lending Fund > Established a State Small Business Credit Initiative to strengthen state programs that support private-sector lending to small businesses > Extended provisions raising SBA loan guarantees and eliminating fees > Doubled the maximum size of most SBA loans Here are 25 tax cuts from the 2009 stimulus bill (about 40% of the entire bill and the largest 2-year tax cut in history): 1. "Making Work Pay" Tax Credit (Sec. 1001, Page 195). In tax years 2009 and 2010, the Making Work Pay provision will provide a refundable tax credit of 6.2 percent of earned income up to $400 for individuals and up to $800 for married taxpayers filing joint returns. 2. Increase in the Earned Income Tax Credit (Sec. 1002, Page 198). Go to the stimulus bill for all the details, but it essentially expands this benefit for the working poor. 3. Increased Eligibility for the Refundable Portion of Child Credit (Sec. 1003, Page 199). In 2009 and 2010, families who don’t earn enough to pay income tax would be eligible to claim the $1,000 child credit. 4. "American Opportunity" Education Tax Credit (Sec. 1004, Page 199). Increases the Hope Scholarship Credit to $2,500. 5. Refundable First-time Home Buyer Credit. (Sec. 1006, Page 202). This extended and increased the first-time home buyer tax credit from $7,500 to $8,000. 6. Temporary Suspension of Taxation of Unemployment Benefits (Sec. 1007, Page 203). This exempts from taxable gross income the first $2,400 of unemployment benefits. 7. Tax Credits for Energy-Efficient Improvements to Existing Homes (Sec. 1121, Page 208). This provides up to a $1,500 tax credit for qualified energy efficiency improvements. 8. Sales Tax Deduction for Vehicle Purchases (Sec. 1008, Page 203). This allows people to write off state and local sales taxes related to the purchase of a new vehicle costing up to $49,500. 9. Premium Credits for COBRA Continuation Coverage for Unemployed Workers (Sec. 6432, Page 348) 10. Economic Recovery Credits to Recipients of Social Security, SSI, Railroad Retirement and Veterans Disability Compensation Benefits (Sec. 2201, Page 336). This was a $250 payment for senior citizens, disabled veterans and disabled people living on Social Security benefits. 11. Computers as Qualified Education Expenses in 529 Education Plans (Sec. 1005, Page 202). This allows college students to write off the expense of computers and software, provided it's for educational purpose and not for games. 12. Plug-in Electric Drive Vehicle Credit (Sec. 1141, Page 212). Allows purchasers of plug-in electric vehicles to write off up to $5,000 of their purchase (depending on the power of the battery). 13. Tax Parity for Transit Benefits (sec. 1151, Page 219). This relates to an increased exclusion amount for commuter transit benefits and transit passes. 14. Health Coverage Tax Credit Expansion (Sec. 1899, Page 309). 15. Extension of Enhanced Small Business Expensing (Sec. 1202, Page 221). This is a temporary increase in limitations on expensing some depreciable business assets. 16. 5-Year Carryback of Net Operating Losses for Small Businesses (Sec. 1211, Page 221). 17. Extension of Bonus Depreciation (Sec. 1201, Page 220). This extends by a year election to accelerate the AMT and Research Credits in lieu of bonus depreciation. 18. Exclusion of 75% of Small Business Capital Gains from Taxes (Sec. 1241, Page 228). 19. Temporary Small Business Estimated Tax Payment Relief (Sec. 1212, Page 222). 20. Temporary Reduction of S Corporation Built-In Gains Holding Period from 10 Years to 7 Years (Sec. 1251, Page 228). 21. Advanced Energy Investment Credit (Sec. 1302, Page 231). This relates to properties designed to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, such as those that produce energy from the sun, wind, geothermal deposits, fuel cells, microturbines, or an energy storage system for use with electric or hybrid-electric vehicles. 22. Tax Credits for Alternative Refueling Property (Sec. 1123, Page 211). This is a temporary increase for alternative fuel vehicle refueling businesses. 23. Work Opportunity Tax Credits for Hiring Unemployed Veterans and Disconnected Youth (Sec. 1221, Page 223). This is a tax credit to provide incentive to businesses to hire unemployed veterans and "disconnected youth." That latter term is defined, in part, as young adults "not readily employable by reason of lacking a sufficient number of basic skills." 24. Delayed Recognition of Certain Cancellation of Debt Income (Sec. 1231, Page 224). 25. Election to Accelerate Recognition of Historic AMT/R&D;Credits (Sec. 1201, Page 220). Partial list of accomplishments for Veterans: > largest spending increase in 30 years for the Department of Veterans Affairs to improve medical facilities and national cemeteries, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities. > Added 4.6 billion USD to the Veterans Administration budget to recruit and retain more mental health professionals > Signed the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act authorizing advance appropriations for the Department of Veterans Affairs by providing two-fiscal year budget authority thus enabling better medical care for veterans. Endorsed by the American Legion, American Veterans, Blinded Veter...ans Association, Disabled American Veterans, Jewish War Veterans, Military Officers Association, Military Order of the Purple Heart, Paralyzed Veterans of America and Vietnam Veterans of America: > Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record to improve quality of medical care for the U.S. Armed Forces members > Allocated special funding to the Labor Department to provide green job training to veterans > Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America’s Veterans > Covered expenses for families of fallen soldiers to be on hand at Dover AFB > Signed the post-9/11 GI Bill Partial list of immigration accomplishments: > Net Zero Illegal Immigration from Mexico ref (much of it is because of the economy, but it is also because of enforcement) > Increased deportations with a focus on dangerous criminals ref > finished more than 99% of the border fence > Added more than 3,000 Border Patrol agents > Sent 1,200 national guard to the border > increased money, agents, investigators, prosecutors, surveillance and technology > Implemented Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals to defer deportation of people who were brought here as children Partial list of accomplishments eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse: > Cracked down on companies that deny sick pay, vacation and health insurance to workers by abusing the independent contractor classification. Such companies also avoid paying Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance taxes for those workers. > Signed the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act which gives the federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud > Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals > Endorsed Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act that would close offshore tax havens > Signed an Executive Order on government contracting to fight waste and abuse > Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in defense procurement and contracting > Committed to phasing out the F-22 war plane and other outdates weapons systems > Established a Chief Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient > Limited salaries of senior White House aides to $100,000 > Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters Side: Obama
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I'm European, and I can see, as many other people in the world that BOTH of your parties Democrats and republics, are just representing the Big Corporations , they support only the 1%, and they let down the 99%. Obama promised alot of things during his campaign in 2008, which he never done, or even worse than Bush, He blamed the drone attack from bush administration, and now he is droning Afghanistan,Somalia,Yemen,Sudan...and many other countries and the worse is he is claiming himself responsible for these Drone attack and is killing everyday innocent people, but of course you never hear that on the mass media corporations. that's only one example. Clearly both of you candidate are Evil but 1 may be less then the other one. They spend billions of dollar for their Election campaign, which came from private donors, banks,and big corporations... but they are not capable of helping the people in need in USA . They claim that they have killed Osama Ben laden?, let me ask you how many times did your government lie to you? For Vietnam? For the nuclear Weapons in Irak?...there is a long list. I'm sure I'm not the only one who find it very suspicious that no one had seen any picture, same as all architectures tell you that the WTC building could not collapse straight down, because of 2 planes. One must be ignorant to not understand the wicked plans of government, and lobbyist, corporations, banks. You people shouldn't vote both of them are evil, will this change? No, but we people as humans can only change, not individual person but instead as a humanity. and it is common that the state tries to make everything look complicated, so that other people don't understand, but we are not ignorant people, and we care for each other, we are not patriotic,not communist,not democratic, we are human, and all of us, we think same deep in us. Side: Romney
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As far as I know no presidential candidate proposed to overthrow the Electoral College and institute a popular vote. I'll vote for that guy, if he ever shows up. Even if I don't like either of the football teams that got into the Superbowl (I actually hate football, but bare with me), if I was a betting man, it would be smart to bet on one of them. It would be stupid of me to pick my home team (even though I like them, they didn't make it into the Superbowl) because there is no way possible for them to win. It might give me some ideological satisfaction, but it has absolutely no practical value and is thus, in my opinion, a waste of time. Side: Romney
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Is there somebody running beside Obama? I ask this because it seems like Romney has multiple personality disorder, he supports both sides of every issue. Against abortion, then for it. Against the bail out of the auto industry, but was for saving the auto industry. All for outsourcing jobs to China, now against it. For health care, now against the program that Obama modeled his after. Romney is a joke, and if you vote for him you are too. Side: Obama
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I believe Gary Johnson will be on the ballot, but I could be wrong. Though, even if he is, I would still vote for Obama, because a third party candidate does not have a realistic chance of winning. So if you don't want Romney in office, it's sound to vote for Obama. Side: Obama
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Am I the only one still not being notified when my arguments get responses? Anyway sorry for the late reply... I really don't think either of them give three shits after thanksgiving dinner about us folks, but AT LEAST Obama takes action in supporting LGBT rights Women's rights. Side: Obama
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I didn't know that signing the NDAA, invading Libya, Killing innocents with drones, increasing the debt by 6 trillion (he said increasing it by 4 trillion was unpatriotic) and stealing loads of money from people and then giving it away so that the democrats can stay in power is the "right thing" Side: Romney
The 2012 NDAA reiterated the NUAF document from 2001 and also later stated that it must abide the constitution, so it's nothing new. One thing Obama, Bush, and all other presidents have and will do, is start shit with other countries. Yeah it sucks but it's beyond our control, literally and practically. The guy is the commander-in-chief, thereby a war mongering assmite, but nevertheless, his social policies are fantastic. LGBT rights and Gay rights, Women's rights, I'm down for that. The increase in debt, yeah it's his fault, but whatthefuck would you do? There's no money to be had, and in order to still function, the U.S. needs money. I believe we were beyond the debt horizon years ago, in that we basically have been bought wholesale by China, and this debt is just their mortgage. Side: Obama
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I don't know why Obama signed the NDAA. But I wanted to correct you on some debt spending you attributed to him. Obama is only responsible for roughly 1.44 trillion of the national debt, the other 5 trillion came from Bush's tax cuts as well as the two wars of his. And how is Obama or the democrats "stealing" money from people and giving it away? Side: Obama
Again I didn't recieve notification of your dispute, and for the delay I again apologise, but the economy is not controlled by the president. In fact, the economy is the speed and volume of the exchange of goods in a system. This is to say that the economy will get better in time, and the president has no chief manner of changing it in any immediacy. But if we can get a president whom knows how to formulate an economic policy that say, you know, gets us more money, than hell this whole down economy thing would end plenty quicker. I reiterate though, I do not believe the president has the ability to change the economy's state, only alter it's pace. Now this isn't to say that Romney is the better candidate, because both him and Obama are, and will continue to, waste more money. In this I mean, and I remind you this is an opinion, with military spending. Military spending is the least productive use of money. It's self-preservationalist, and egotistical. Side: Obama
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As an English citizen, I can't vote, but if I could it would so be Obama. I'm not going to list all the reasons coz it would take FOR EVER but there is one thing Obama is doing well: trying to get America a free health service. I know people said he broke his promise of getting that, but he tried and that's what he actually tried to do. I'm so pleased he won the election! Side: Obama
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I'm European, and I can see, as many other people in the world that BOTH of your parties Democrats and republics, are just representing the Big Corporations , they support only the 1%, and they let down the 99%. Obama promised alot of things during his campaign in 2008, which he never done, or even worse than Bush, He blamed the drone attack from bush administration, and now he is droning Afghanistan,Somalia,Yemen,Sudan...and many other countries and the worse is he is claiming himself responsible for these Drone attack and is killing everyday innocent people, but of course you never hear that on the mass media corporations. that's only one example. Clearly both of you candidate are Evil but 1 may be less then the other one. They spend billions of dollar for their Election campaign, which came from private donors, banks,and big corporations... but they are not capable of helping the people in need in USA . They claim that they have killed Osama Ben laden?, let me ask you how many times did your government lie to you? For Vietnam? For the nuclear Weapons in Irak?...there is a long list. I'm sure I'm not the only one who find it very suspicious that no one had seen any picture, same as all architectures tell you that the WTC building could not collapse straight down, because of 2 planes. One must be ignorant to not understand the wicked plans of government, and lobbyist, corporations, banks. You people shouldn't vote both of them are evil, will this change? No, but we people as humans can only change, not individual person but instead as a humanity. and it is common that the state tries to make everything look complicated, so that other people don't understand, but we are not ignorant people, and we care for each other, we are not patriotic,not communist,not democratic, we are human, and all of us, we think same deep in us. Side: Obama
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