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Vegan Vegetarian
Debate Score:13
Arguments:17
Total Votes:13
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Vegan or Vegetarian

i am thinking about more radical change in my diet, I do not want to eat junk anymore and I do not like meat anyway. 

Any experience, suggestions?

Vegan

Side Score: 7
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Vegetarian

Side Score: 6
1 point

I think this is the healthier way, but feels a bit extreme. I need quite a lot of protein. I think it would be quite difficult...

Side: Vegan
1 point

I am 15 years old and I have been vegan for my whole life and I am perfectly healthy.

Side: Vegan
sauh(1106) Clarified
1 point

Not to bag on being a vegan, I suggested my sibling to not feed their children meat until they could make their own choice; but (within reason) you can do whatever you want (say casually smoke crack) and you will most likely be healthy for fifteen years.

Side: Vegan
1 point

Outline:

I. Intro

II. Animals are sentient

III. Establishing suffering.

IV. Summary

V. Links

First post here.

I. Intro

Non-vegans are animal abusers. There are plenty of healthy vegans. Including celebrities [1] and everyday people. [2]. Proving that a person can be a healthy vegan.

II. Animals are sentient

Animals are sentient beings. Chickens show empathy. " Consequently, the weight of evidence indicates that humans are not unique in possessing the neurological substrates that generate consciousness. Non-human animals, including all mammals and birds, and many other creatures, including octopuses, also possess these neurological substrates."" [3].

III. Establishing suffering.

Suppliers of non-vegan foods torture animals. Some vegetarians think no cows have to die if they drink milk, this is a falsehood. Purchasing milk leads to cow deaths too. Same with chicken eggs. Big farm organic is a lie. Those animals suffer just about as much as battery cage animals.

""Free-Range" Hen

• Debeaked with a hot bloody blade at one day old with no anesthetic.

• Force molted (intentionally starved to shock the body into another laying cycle).

• Violently packed into a semi and trucked hundreds of miles to an agonizing slaughter when considered “spent” (unable to keep laying eggs at a fast enough pace).

• Denied the opportunity to live a natural life in truly humane care.

• All of her brothers (roosters) are brutally killed as baby chicks simply because they can’t lay eggs." [4].

"After just 4 to 6 years, dairy cows are “spent” from being forced to continuously produce milk. Often weak and ill, they endure transport to auction and slaughter, both of which are traumatic for these gentle animals." [5].

IV. Summary

Vegetarians cause the suffering and deaths of many animals by continuing to purchase animal products. Save yourself the guilt and go vegan today. Thank you for reading. Good luck refuting my claims.

V. Links

1. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/01/vegan-celebrities n4351908.html

2. http://www.30bananasaday.com/page/testify-1

3. http://www.livescience.com/39481-time-to-declare-animal-sentience.html

4. http://peacefulprairie.org/freerange1.html

5. http://www.humanemyth.org/happycows.htm

Side: Vegan
1 point

I like stinky cheese :)

Side: Vegetarian

Veganism cuts out a whole lot more and there is little moral reasoning to be Vegan instead of just a regular vegetarian. If you are worried about the fat in dairy products then just drink skimmed or semi-skimmed which is low in fat and eat low fat yogurts. Also being a Vegan would mean not eating eggs which are good for you as they are high in protein and low in calories.

Side: Vegetarian
Mathlete(153) Clarified
1 point

I have no problem with eating animals. I would eat you if I had to... :D. i am trying to find the optimal diet.

Side: Vegan
vegan(77) Disputed
1 point

Eggs contain high levels of fat, saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein. Eggs are not healthy.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/111/2

Side: Vegan

I am vegetarian, so I can vouch for it. It's not as hard as it seems like it would be, and I've really broadened my tastes since I converted. Pretty much any meat recipe can be made vegetarian if you're willing to experiment with substitutions. From an animal ethics point, veganism is preferred, but I'm not sure how much more difficult it would be, and it's always a step you can take later if you so choose. However, being vegetarian doesn't mean you won't eat junk. You still have to pay attention - a lot of people eat more junk when they go veggie because they don't know what else to do.

Side: Vegetarian
Mathlete(153) Clarified
1 point

I just want to be really healthy, nothing more nothing less. I really feel better without meat and fast food junk... but I need balanced diet, something that I can eat for decades.

Side: Vegan
1 point

Being vegetarian takes care of most health concerns about meat and takes care of MOST of the moral aspect

Side: Vegetarian
Mathlete(153) Clarified
1 point

I don't care about the moral part. My only concern is eating healthy.

Side: Vegan
vegan(77) Disputed
1 point

Dairy contains animal protein. Animal protein increases liver production of IGF-1. IGF-1 increases risk for cancer. [1].As for moral aspect, your deceiving yourself HaleyT. See the humanemyth [2] and peaceful prairie [3] links.

Link

1. http://nutritionfacts.org/video/protein-intake-and-igf-1-production/

2. http://www.humanemyth.org/happycows.htm

3. http://peacefulprairie.org/freerange1.html

Side: Vegan
1 point

Eating vegetarian doesn't neccesarily mean eating healthy. Eating vegetarian means you are protecting the environment and that you care about the animals.

Side: Vegetarian
vegan(77) Disputed
1 point

Eating vegetarian is better than omnivore and vegan is better than vegetarian.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/protein-intake-and-igf-1-production/

Side: Vegan

No one can go wrong with vegetables. The key is to pick those vegetables that you really like.

Side: Vegetarian
vegan(77) Disputed
1 point

Vegetables are vegan. You have made no argument against a vegan diet.

Side: Vegan