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Legalize! Don't legalize!
Debate Score:51
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Legalize!

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Don't legalize!

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2 points

Some how I knew this would be your debate...

Side: Legalize!

I thought it was going to be prodigee's debate.

Side: Legalize!
2 points

I don't see why not. I won't partake in it, but people should have the freedom to do so. And government tax revenue will increase, and the abuse of it will go down. Portugal legalized it and they saw a 50% decrease in abuse of the drug.

Side: Legalize!
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Ins da Liechtenstein Country it is ams da POLITES to smokes a joint ons your anus holes. Dat mas ours traditigonal cultures!

Side: Legalize!
2 points

yea i guess we might as well just legalize since everyone is smoking it anyway so nothing much is going to change anyway

Side: Legalize!

"There is no logical basis for the prohibition of marijuana" - Milton Friedman

Side: Legalize!
2 points

I agree, I mean I bet if we did the research statistically we'd find in most cases alcohol to be significantly more consequential than weed. By the way... AWESOME pic dude... Just awesome.

Side: Legalize!
2 points

I have asthma and people who smoke cigarettes are blow smoke and me and I cough. I find weed smoke even worse.

Side: Don't legalize!
2 points

if you cant stand the heat, get the _____ out of the kitchen

Side: Legalize!
1 point

I have dust allergies so I decided to lobby for legislation that would give the police authority to arrest and/or kill anyone caught possessing, making, distributing or utilizing dust.

Side: Legalize!
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It should be legalized simply because some weak-minded people cannot stop their obsession and addiction to drugs? The fact is that no one needs drugs, never has and never will. Neither is doing drugs cool, or however you regard it, it's disgusting.

Do you really think having smoke in the lungs is not bad? It's bad every time, lungs is for air, preferably clean air. You want crap in your lungs? Then fart into a bottle and inhale it. Through your nose! You want to eat that stuff instead? Then go ahead and eat shit. Our bodies do not need drugs, every time you take drugs in, the body begins fighting them off because they do not belong there.

And as I've said multiple times elsewhere also, the job of a government should be ensuring the people under it are well of both body and mind. Having the mentality that drugs, smoking, or anything similar is not bad is not being well of mind. It's immaturity, what makes immaturity bad is when you're a grownup. You do it because of stress, from inability to deal with emotions and feelings internally; you do it because other's do it, it's regarded as "cool" in your circles; or you simply don't know better. If you use drugs, smoke, anything similar, then you still have growing to do.

Using drugs goes in parallel with condoning any mistakes.

"You made a mistake, and I made a mistake? Ah... they were small ones, no point fussing with them."

Mistakes must be learnt from, however small they seem. The only reason you think using drugs is a small one, or not one at all, is because it supposedly makes you "feel good". I cannot regard people like those any other way but as pathetic.

I wonder, can you look at yourself, your past, and pinpoint why exactly you began using them?

Side: Don't legalize!
zephyr20x6(2387) Disputed
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It should be legalized simply because some weak-minded people cannot stop their obsession and addiction to drugs?

I don't know where you are going with this, most people, particularly me, says drugs should be legal because it is less addicting/ bad for you than alcohol.

The fact is that no one needs drugs, never has and never will.

Nobody needs soda, should we illegalize soda?

Neither is doing drugs cool, or however you regard it, it's disgusting.

Something being "cool" should never be a reason to do anything or legalize anything I agree.

Do you really think having smoke in the lungs is not bad? It's bad every time, lungs is for air, preferably clean air.

Should we illegalize tobacco?

You want crap in your lungs? Then fart into a bottle and inhale it. Through your nose! You want to eat that stuff instead? Then go ahead and eat shit.

Those aren't illegal though.

Our bodies do not need drugs, every time you take drugs in, the body begins fighting them off because they do not belong there.

Same situation with alcohol. Alcohol is pretty much poison.

And as I've said multiple times elsewhere also, the job of a government should be ensuring the people under it are well of both body and mind.

Let's illegalize alcohol then.

Having the mentality that drugs, smoking, or anything similar is not bad is not being well of mind. It's immaturity, what makes immaturity bad is when you're a grownup.

I agree.

You do it because of stress, from inability to deal with emotions and feelings internally; you do it because other's do it, it's regarded as "cool" in your circles; or you simply don't know better.

Or to enjoy yourself like when one drinks alcohol. The only reason to drink soda is to enjoy the flavor, it doesn't do anything good for you, why should it be legal?

If you use drugs, smoke, anything similar, then you still have growing to do.

Maybe. If you stick with that, then its only fair to say that about alcohol.

Using drugs goes in parallel with condoning any mistakes. "You made a mistake, and I made a mistake? Ah... they were small ones, no point fussing with them." Mistakes must be learnt from, however small they seem. The only reason you think using drugs is a small one, or not one at all, is because it supposedly makes you "feel good".

Drinking alcohol should be a mistake then. We all to some extent compromise a perfectly healthy life style for satisfaction in the moment, when you eat a cheeseburger from mickyDs, get a 2 liter of coke, spend all day watching television, playing video games, drinking alcohol. I think it is more fair to legalize or illegalize drugs based on how negatively it can effect others around the user and to what extent, the way I see it, we should either illegalize both alcohol and weed or neither, otherwise we are being hypocritical.

I cannot regard people like those any other way but as pathetic.

Isn't much of an argument. I respond to this to ask, do you see alcohol drinkers, hardcore alcoholics to drinks one cup every new years as pathetic? Perhaps you have a bit of a prejudice behind your stance?

I wonder, can you look at yourself, your past, and pinpoint why exactly you began using them?

I smoke a few times close to each other every 6 month's on average maybe? That sounds about right. I wanted to try it, just like people who like to drink now and then just wanted to try it. I smoke ciggarettes... I hate that I smoke ciggarettes it doesn't make you scratch off your skin or see Shit I know, its bad for my lungs, but what I hate MOST about it, is It's addictive property. A close family member of mine used to be a bad, bad drug addict, he is completely clean now except for cigs, and he says that cigarettes are the hardest thing he ever tried to quit. Cigarettes are incredibly quick at becoming addicting but still slow enough for you to not take it seriously. Other drugs remain as addicting when you first try them, your will might weaken, but the drug isn't becoming more addicting. Cigs potentially become the most addictive drug in the world after smoking for so many years. Now the point of my rant about cigs is that the fear mongering behind weed drove me to cigs ironically, when I tried weed I realized, yeah it isn't good for you, buts its not as bad as a lot of people think, so I thought maybe they are exxagerating with cigarettes? So I tried one to see if it was really bad and if it was something I liked. At first they aren't addicting at all, after the first one I could probably have cold turkeyed, but remember they get addicting quick, so I thought wow this isn't that addictive... I was wrong.

I don't think the point of society is to look after us individually but as a whole, individually our choices should be none of the governments business, our decisions that affect others should totally be their business. That's the way I see it. Otherwise why not illegalize all unhealthy foods? Unhealthy beverages? Because to put those in your body is your choice. The truth is the only way one can really live is to compromise a perfectly healthy lifestyle to a satisfactory lifestyle to some extent. Living healthy is living for the future, if we live for the future and never ever live for the present then we never live for the future in the end anyway, because when the future becomes the present you don't live it, what was the point? Weed doesn't do anything good for you other than make you feel good yes, but mountain dew doesn't either other than make your taste buds feel good. Sure it hydrates you, but its easier to distribute and sell water than mountain dew...

Side: Legalize!
nummi(1432) Disputed
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I don't know where you are going with this, most people, particularly me, says drugs should be legal because it is less addicting/ bad for you than alcohol.

Are you kidding me? To legalize drugs because some other drugs are more harmful? Can you honestly not see what is wrong with that? In this case there should be no legalizing other drugs, there should be illegalizing all drugs.

It doesn't matter whether something is more harmful than something else. If it is harmful it should not be used.

Nobody needs soda, should we illegalize soda?

I honestly would have nothing against it. The last time I drank some was about ten years ago anyway.

People would be that much healthier with their diet. What would be bad with that? Being healthier is a good thing.

Should we illegalize tobacco?

Why not? People would be a lot healthier as a result.

Those aren't illegal though.

Because everyone (almost everyone... just in case) can see what is wrong with it.

Same situation with alcohol. Alcohol is pretty much poison.

Exactly.

Let's illegalize alcohol then.

Ok. Let's do it.

Or to enjoy yourself like when one drinks alcohol.

Small amounts a few to several timers a year would be okay by me. But the issue is high overconsumption. People use them so much that it damages their bodies, causes illnesses, and they still keep doing it. Rises a question, why do they do something so stupid? The answer is broad and covers many areas. The values our civilization is based on, what children are taught and the environment they grow up in, people who form the government and their own ignorance, etc. It's a mess.

The only reason to drink soda is to enjoy the flavor, it doesn't do anything good for you, why should it be legal?

I stopped drinking sodas because they were unhealthy.

If I drink alcohol, several times a year, I do it for the flavor, not for the drinking, nor for getting drunk (I think it has something to do with aesthetics? as in having a good taste). But majority of people drink alcohol simply for drinking it, or for getting drunk, or because their friends drink it. They are stupid and ignorant. The underlying tone seems to be that the buildup of our society is just wrong, it requires significant improvements.

Maybe. If you stick with that, then its only fair to say that about alcohol.

Should've added "excessively", because that is where the problem comes from - excessive use.

It's kind of annoying to write these arguments if one issue opens doors to so many others and they are all connected and cannot really be solved without solving all of them together, or, rather, what is required to solve one would also solve many others.

Otherwise why not illegalize all unhealthy foods? Unhealthy beverages? Because to put those in your body is your choice.

That's why I keep saying what the government is supposed to be doing, and it's not doing it, at all. People, on average, do not know what is good for them, and if they do they do not care. This is where the government should step in and make the decisions for those who cannot make the right ones themselves. But still, people should know the right thing on their own, without government's intervention.

While I wrote my previous argument I kept in mind the people I see and hear almost every day talking about drinking or actually drinking, or smoking. Several times a year and not excessively even on those times would be okay, but they do it every day, almost every day or every week - that is far too much. So a simple solution would be illegalizing, but that wouldn't really solve anything since the issue originates from far deeper, and so the permanent solution would require the changing of our entire civilization.

Side: Don't legalize!
1 point

cigarettes and alcohol are drugs, weed is not. youre probably too stupid to understand why it has been demonized

Side: Legalize!
nummi(1432) Disputed
1 point

Weed is a drug.

Educate yourself:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/drug?s=t

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug

But considering you haven't already done it I'd say you are the stupid one here. Not to mention ignorant...

Side: Don't legalize!
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It should be legalized simply because some weak-minded people cannot stop their obsession and addiction to drugs? The fact is that no one needs drugs, never has and never will. Neither is doing drugs cool, or however you regard it, it's disgusting.

Drug: a substance which may have medicinal, intoxicating, performance enhancing or other effects when taken or put into a human body

Medicine would fall under that category.

Do you really think having smoke in the lungs is not bad? It's bad every time, lungs is for air, preferably clean air. You want crap in your lungs? Then fart into a bottle and inhale it. Through your nose! You want to eat that stuff instead? Then go ahead and eat shit. Our bodies do not need drugs, every time you take drugs in, the body begins fighting them off because they do not belong there.

This is misleading. You believe that the body "fights off drugs" like a virus because the effects wear off. When you eat some food or drink some water do you get thirsty or hungry again because your body fights it off? No, its because the effects run out. Again, most drugs improve people's live, both in medical and recreational use.

And as I've said multiple times elsewhere also, the job of a government should be ensuring the people under it are well of both body and mind. Having the mentality that drugs, smoking, or anything similar is not bad is not being well of mind.

When its been proven in many studies that certain drugs that our strictly outlawed are not harmful, then what is the point of having them outlawed? And as I've said multiple times elsewhere drug prohibition has never worked.

It's immaturity, what makes immaturity bad is when you're a grownup. You do it because of stress, from inability to deal with emotions and feelings internally; you do it because other's do it, it's regarded as "cool" in your circles; or you simply don't know better. If you use drugs, smoke, anything similar, then you still have growing to do.

Most people who smoke weed don't smoke because its "cool" or because they are dependent on it or stressed out. Most just smoke some at a party, you treat it as if they were all full blown addicts. If you consider having a cig or two at a party every once in awhile to immature then you have some growing up to do.

Using drugs goes in parallel with condoning any mistakes.

Using drugs is a mistake? Medicine makes people healthier. Coffee makes people work better. Recreational drugs make parties better. How is that a mistake?

Mistakes must be learnt from, however small they seem. The only reason you think using drugs is a small one, or not one at all, is because it supposedly makes you "feel good". I cannot regard people like those any other way but as pathetic.

Before I had ever had a sip of alcohol or a puff of marijuana I never considered it a mistake. I don't consider having a a joint at a party or a few beers on the weekends to be mistakes, I do consider blowing your entire pay check on substances because you are dependent on them to be a mistake. Does that mean they need to be outlawed? Of course not, people who are using them in a responsible manor should not have their rights taken away and those who are using the irresponsibly should be offered treatment.

I wonder, can you look at yourself, your past, and pinpoint why exactly you began using them?

Well lets see, my friends were smoking some weed at a party and I when asked if I wanted a hit I said -drum roll- no. So I continued talking to my friends not realizing that the room was rather smokey and you can probably see where it went from there.

Most people don't have some deep emotional reason or desire to be "cool" the drives them to smoke pot, they just get a contact high or try it out on their own out of pure experimentation.

Side: Legalize!
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I would like to keep my brain how it is with brain cells.

Side: Don't legalize!
1 point

1. Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells, that study was proven false.

2. The question is if it should be legalized, not if smoking it should be mandatory.

Side: Legalize!
bemagic15(531) Clarified
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Well I still want everyone too live long lives

Side: Legalize!

decriminalization would be better than legalization. you dont want the government getting too involved with sales and acceptable thc levels. look at the taxes they charge on cigarettes...imagine what uncle sam's bit ch azz would charge for an o-zeee.

Side: Don't legalize!