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Debate Score:50
Arguments:38
Total Votes:52
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WOULD YOU ACCEPT BEING INSERTED WITH A MICROCHIP THAT MONITORS YOU?

WOULD YOU ACCEPT BEING INSERTED WITH A MICROCHIP THAT MONITORS YOUR LOCATION AND ACTIONS AT ANY TIME.

THE CHIP WOULD BE INSERTED WITHOUT PAIN AND IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE OUT WITHOUT RESULTING IN DEATH. THE CHIP WOULD ALSO BE USED FOR OTHER SOCIAL FUNCTIONS SUCH AS A REPLACEMENT FOR MONEY AND CAN BE SHUT OFF AT ANY TIME THUS OUTCASTING YOU FROM SOCIETY.

YES

Side Score: 14
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NO

Side Score: 36
2 points

I have nothing to hide, and everything to fear from terrorists, et cetera.

I don't care if the government knows when I buy vibrators or hotel rooms or lamp shades! As long as they know who's buying bomb materials and laundering money for terrorist organizations.

There is a line that would need to be monitored, but done correctly, I think that this would be the solution to world peace.

We could eliminate crime by having heart rate monitors and gps devices in every unit.

We could eliminate millions in cost to our Medicare system by having certain medical statistics, including blood pressure, sugar and toxens, uploaded wirelessly to your iPhone.

Identity theft could be eliminated with the flick of a wrist.

With the correct technology, this could make life more pleasant for everyone.

Side: yes

Hmmm..., maybe we can monitor when singles of all ages are on the verge of getting laid (by monitoring their hormones or something) and then quickly release anti-horny drugs to keep them from having sex until they are married ;)

Side: yes
2 points

I'm supporting your releasing the hormones. Here are Scriptures that support that the bible is not a hoax how can something so old be so accurate?

Revelation 20:4

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his MARK upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev. 20:4

I'm in the Real Estate business and a lot of see the inevitable collapse of the dollar and world currency. Just last week more countries have put their money into the IMF International Monetary Fund. I can write a whole book on this but I wont bore you. But to make a cashless society based purely on credit with no monetary or "Cash Paper" makes all the sense one day that we will all be forced to take the chip or suffer.

Side: yes
xander(438) Disputed
1 point

Can you be a good person if you haven't got an opportunity to do wrong?

Side: No
1 point

lol ...... its been getting done to people without their permission for a long time now.Dont ask me to explain myself on this one....I WONT!....and as far as myself agreeing to get it done,For the fact that the stuff you state in the description of this debate is not such a lie to reality,I Definately do not agree that it should be done to everyone .But why should it not be used to monitor various criminals etc.

Side: No
0 points

I DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF SHIT I MIGHT GET INTO I SURE DINT WANT ANYONE ELSE TO .WTF . YOU ARE CORRECT THOUGH VIOLENT CRIMINALS CHILD MOLESTERS ECT. IF THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO FREE THESE BASTARDS THE LEAST THEY COULD DO IS KEEP TRACK OF THEM SO I DON'T HAVE TO , I MEAN JESUS MY SHIT LIST IS LONG ENOUGH AS IT IS !

Side: yes
1 point

True as.

I used to have a chip (that i was unaware of ) until it worked its way somehow out through the surface of my mid belly .

I was on the phone talking to a friend when i had an urge to scratch.

I felt something solid come free and it fell to the ground. Puzzled i picked it up to have a look. It was most certainly a microchip , about a quarter of the size of a scrabble piece.

It had the letters - GMSRE. (maybe in a different order and i may have a letter wrong , i think there was a letter H in it as well.)

but i summed it up to stand for Scientific Government Millitary Experimental Research.

Side: yes
3 points

hell nooo. people should be able to have their privacyy. i got nothing to hide but i dont want people following me or knowing where i am all the time

Side: No
3 points

I have one in my cat so incase it gets lost I can find her. But do I want one in my arm so that I can buy groceries with it or pay my bills and be monitored by the goverment is a whole other issue.

Side: No
2 points

NO!!! well number 1 is that it is an invasion of privacy and if you want a religious reason why you shouldn't...

Supporting Evidence: Mark of the beast (www.evangelicaloutreach.org)
Side: No
jtopolnak(158) Disputed
3 points

You know just 30 years ago if you read revelation and said to someone that you will be forced to take a number either on your right arm or forehead someday they would have looked at you and laughed because we had no idea that we would be sitting here today having the technology to do so. But you still omit that this is Prophecy?

Side: yes
xander(438) Disputed
1 point

ADMIT.

Do you still ADMIT this is prophesy?

Also, we don't have this technology yet, not really.

Side: yes
1 point

PRIVACY???? HEARD OF IT EVERY ONE SHOULD HAVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: No
2 points

Yes we do it is already being done. here are some clips for you to view. Even if you do the research on your own BIO ChIP you i will find the truth. Absolutely this is a prophecy. The bible is very clear and accurate on this. It makes total sense for Government to do this it makes the perfect checks and balances for a flawless credit society. There are already several thousands of people that have this. As a Christian we have known about this before technology even existed. Even when I was a little boy in the 1970's I understood Revelation and thought that it would be a tattoo or something but no it's a chip even better than I thought.

The Bio Chip
Side: No
xander(438) Disputed
1 point

Sorry, allow me to elaborate.

We have the chip, but not the infrastructure, the monetary backing, the long term safety data, the political system, or any means by which to get them. We have the technology to do this like we have the technology to clone organs- sort of, but not in any meaningful way. There is some technology, but not enough. We've had the technology for an Orwellian world for fifty years, and it hasn't happened- why should this? It's just a bunch of people being paranoid.

Side: No
jtopolnak(158) Disputed
1 point

Hardly cloning organs and technology for micro chipping is a poor analogy. Just look at computers and cell phones in the last 20 years who would have thought that we would be at a point where information is at an instant. The technology already exist and the infrastructure for such a thing is already intact just like using your debit card only that your debit card is a chip in your wrist. I'm not paranoid I think that we have time but there are already people in this world that have this done and are the first to start the idea. Monetary backing there is none even today when the Fed says OK government go ahead and take a billion dollar loan out they just punch in a number there is no actual currency created. "Money out of thin Air" Look up Ron Paul he explains all of this and is a genius for the truth.

Side: No
1 point

No I would not consent. The government works for me and our country and they belong to us. We don't belong to them. Consenting to such a thing would be worse than Communism, probably even more like slavery. And who would ever consent to being a slave?

Side: No

That's a very good point. We shouldn't have to "accept" anything. The government works for the people, with the people's consent.

Side: No
1 point

I would not agree as it would feel like an invasion of privacy. I don't think it would be for the government to have an easy way to check up on you wherever you go and whatever you do. For convicted felons this may be a good solution to control them, but not for average citizens.

Side: No
1 point

Depends on the situation but I would say unless the government accepts being inserted with that microchip.. then I won't..

Side: No
1 point

This is what the electronic and computer age has given us; a artificial means to take control to the ultimate level. The question to ask is: 'why is who watching who from where and for what?"

My religious and philosophical motto is that each one has to learn to seek his or her own salvation and stop minding other people's business. After all we did come into the world alone and will exit alone!

Electronics is just another crude form of manipulating nature and the hidden or transcendental forces that lies within the material world. Chi and Kundalini energy exists within all creation and that energy is the ultimate spy that records all that we say and do. It is also known as the Akashic record. So the next time you do something unethical, let your conscious be your guide because you're planting negative karmic seeds that may effect you in the future.

So that 'chip' is a late invention that we should not fear. What we should fear is the 'Cosmic Chip" that exists throughout the Universe who are watching the chip maker...who are observing your deeds...etc.

It's arrogant for humanity to think that we are the only beings in existence on such a small planet! Perhaps we are the beings disenfranchised and alienated from the rest of the Universe!

Think about it!

Side: No
1 point

I love you man.. you talk on the deepest level about things in the philosophy I understand and agree with the most. You've GOT to be of a dharmic religion... you talk too much sense.

Side: No
1 point

Well, government officials would probably be the first to be inserted- if you can't monitor your own, why monitor at all?

Side: No
1 point

For all of you non bible believers this is prophecy straight out of revelation. The mark of the beast one world currency. When I was young and reading this we did not have the technology to even think about doing this. Now it is a reality. I don't want any chip becuase ultimatley goverment then will have total control over you like it or not.

Side: No
2 points

I agree that the mark of the beast is a device used to follow the activities of citizens. It will continue to work just as long as the power distribution grid is in operation and batteries can be recharged. We take so much for granted! What do you think will happen when the power goes out due to solar flares?

Where is the power distribution station that powers up this Universe? If you can answer that, then you hold the secrets of existence in your hands!

Side: No
1 point

nooooo... I don't care what they tell me. I've read revelations!

Side: No
1 point

Can you be a good person if you haven't got an opportunity to do wrong?

While this is probably a really effective way to stop pretty much all crime and wrongdoing, it's a massive invasion of privacy. When you were a teenager, did you ever sneak out, or go to a party you weren't supposed to, or sneak a kiss when you weren't allowed, or skip school or experiment with illegals? Of COURSE you did, everyone experiments. Your parents could instantly know exactly where you were and what you were doing at all times.

Your spouse could tell if you were cheating, of course, but also where you buy their birthday present, and every time you become aroused- whether or not you're unfaithful.

A huge part of society is trust, and ninety-five percent of people will never do anything wrong. However, having every person monitored constantly makes "good" and "bad" meaningless- the only people who are free are the very, very young and the insane, those who can't understand that they're trapped.

So, no, I wouldn't. I will never kill anyone. I will never steal, rape, or pummel. I will never do hard drugs, or become a terrorist. However, that would stop mattering if I were implanted with a chip. Even if you wouldn't cheat independently on a test, it stops mattering when you have to take it in a room by yourself. The fact that you did not cheat loses all value.

Innocence has a value, and trust has a value. Until there is reason to believe that one has or will do wrong, you have a right to freedom and trust. This microchip idea reeks of an Orwellian dystopia.

Side: No
1 point

Not just no, but Hell No! Even without the prophetic implications, it would be a total invasion of privacy. We are all human and we will all make mistakes, at some point.

Even if they said they only wanted to monitor people for signs of terroristic activity or major criminal activity (i.e. rape, murder or armed robbery), eventually that would be extended by Big Brother. They may decide that they would like to use it for other purposes that I don't even want to consider. Just the thought makes me extremely paranoid and I'm not naturally inclined to have paranoid delusions. Big Brother can mind their own business!

Side: No
1 point

It is not so much the invasion of privacy that bothers me as much as the fact that it can be misused by some person who thinks he is "more equal " than you, or that he is God almighty's incarnation come to set right the whole world, and cure it of all "evils", that is bothersome. Different people have their own rules of life and live by their own ideas of right and wrong, and so long as these ideas are not destructive or intrusive on others, it makes for a beautiful life for all. What is some enemy from within the government monitors and decides to take control of your life ? What is more disturbing is that once you build a social / political system around this chip, it would become an irreversible process. It simply is not worth taking this chance.

Side: No
1 point

Then, if, say the government turned against a certain group, and kill them off, and everyone in that group had the microchips, the government could track them down and eliminate them.

Side: No
1 point

No,,, we are already being controlled thru cell phones, computers and all the other toys of Satan. I would just say no.

Side: No
1 point

I would never put microchip in my body that records my every move. Yes, the technology is so high tech that our smart phones take pictures of all the websites we vist. Now our smart phones are so savy that they can pay for purchases without me pulling out my credit or debit card! You seen the commercials? The one where the group paid for their restraunt meal using their smart phones. That is the purpose of the RFID chip being implanted in you. It is mention in the bible, Revelation that no man can sell or buy without the chip. The microchip is the next step to the smart phone.

According to newscastmedia, that America will be a cashless society. everything such as your passport, identification card, health insurance card and your credit/debit a.k.a your money and credit report will be all on this microchip.

The RFID chip is already being used to find lost pets. The company that makes the RFID chip claim its been sold by the thousands to hospitals for implanting new born babies to prevent them from being kidnapped. The microchip has been used by Walmart to track their inventory and placed in our passports and credit cards. Some states such as New York has implanted the chip in their driver licenses. To cut down crime and illegal immigration. Why is the government so curious about what i do? To me its invasion of my privacy. Google RFID chip on youtube.

www.newscastmedia.com/biometrics.htm

Side: NO

I would not like it. It gives me the creeps. I just would not like the thought of having a microchip inserted inside me.

Side: NO
1 point

There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that this would ever be socially acceptable. Especially in America where one of our fundamental rights is our right to Privacy.

Side: NO