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Debate Score:39
Arguments:35
Total Votes:42
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Want to know my general positions, to be my enemy or ally?

I realized i don't have very many of the two so I want to make some, so I want to know who has the same views as myself, so answer honestly if you would like to.

I'll start with some of the more pressing topics.

I am against zoophilia. I am an atheist. I am pro abortion. Anti gun control. I'm anti sexism. I put humans over animals. I eat all types of foods (omnivore). I am mostly pro death penalty. That's all I can think of for now, any questions that may be the deciding factor, feel free to ask.

Ally

Side Score: 24
VS.

Enemy

Side Score: 15

Against zoophilia-Disagree, atheist-Agree, pro abortion-Agree, Anti gun control-Disagree, anti sexism-agree, humans over animals, agree, omnivore-agree, pro death penalty-undecided.

So I mostly agree with you.

Side: Ally
GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
1 point

You're FOR zoophilia? Yuck!

Side: Ally

So? I find it yuck too but that doesn't mean I should judge others for it. Some animals would be cruel to have sex with but I'm sure some of the bigger ones couldn't care less.

Side: Ally
goodmale(1459) Disputed Banned
1 point

Your for humans. Yuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Enemy

I disagree with some of your views but find it quit illogical that we have to be enemies over an ideological disagreement.

Side: Ally
2 points

I am against zoophilia.- I do not condone it. I strongly feel that disparate levels of emotional maturity, consciousness, ability to identify long-term effects and abstract thinking should rule out sexual behavior for humans. I do sometimes have to struggle to properly justify this though.

I am an atheist. Me too.

I am pro abortion. I vote pro-choice, but I am largely uncomfortable with many of its uses, and find it unlikely that I would support the abortion of a fetus I helped make (this hasn't actually been an issue for me though, so I don't know for sure how I would respond in this situation)

Anti gun control. I have yet to see universal evidence that gun control has an effect on crime one way or the other. As a result, I don't support most gun-control measures.

I'm anti sexism. Me too. Battling because of gender is dumb. We are all humans, and biologically one side needs the other for our species to continue.

I put humans over animals. Well, it depends on the case for me. I am very much supportive of the conservation of endangered species, and I do not generally condone human development that endangers other animals. On the other hand, each species is inclined to look out for itself, and if we didn't we wouldn't be here.

I eat all types of foods (omnivore). Me too. I do eat vegetarian meals fairly regularly though, just not exclusively.

I am mostly pro death penalty. I am not. I see no real-world correlation between death penalty and adherence to laws, there is definitely the problem that people can be wrongly convicted and putting someone to death for a crime they did not commit is a risK I don't think we should be taking.

Side: Ally
1 point

I had hoped you would be my ally. I saw your arguments around and almost always agreed with everything you said, down to the premise of what was being sad.

As for the death penalty, and my views on it. I don't see it as most do. I don't see it as punishment, I see it as permanent removal of someone unfit to be in our society.

Side: Ally
MuckaMcCaw(1970) Clarified
2 points

As for the death penalty, and my views on it. I don't see it as most do. I don't see it as punishment, I see it as permanent removal of someone unfit to be in our society.

Questions:

Who should have the authority to determine who is unfit to be in society?

Does not imprisonment generally achieve this goal?

IF someone can be determined willing and able to change and no longer commit those actions, could he/she be spared?

What of the possibility of wrongful execution?

Side: Ally
1 point

I agree with every last word, except the food part, I eat a ton of meat.

Side: Ally

I've had lots of vegetarian or vegan friends ever since high school. When I was in my early 20s, I dated three girls in a row who were vegetarian, and one or two since then. About 8 or 9 years ago, my mom and the man who became my step-father both went veg. So, I've had so many people around me who don't eat meat that I got used to it, and used to preparing vegetarian meals. I never went all veg myself though. I quite like the fact that humans are omnivores, and I celebrate it within my meals.

Side: Ally
1 point

I think I'm definitely my all, I agree with myself on like everything.

Side: Ally
goodmale(1459) Disputed Banned
1 point

That why you can't win anything your not always right kid. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Enemy
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
2 points

I sincerely hope you're joking and not just an idiot for saying that I'm wrong for agreeing with myself.

Side: Ally

The only thing I kind of disagree with is the gun control, but I'm still mostly undecided on that topic.

Side: Ally
1 point

I am against zoophilia. Definitely agree.

I am an atheist. I'm an agnostic... So, okay.

I am pro abortion. To an extent.

Anti gun control. Agree.

I'm anti sexism. Fuck women's rights... Just kidding, agree.

I put humans over animals. Me too... Except in movies. Old Yeller! Nooooo!

I eat all types of foods (omnivore). Me too... Except dogs and cats.

I am mostly pro death penalty Yup.

Side: Ally
1 point

I am against zoophilia.

Agree

I am an atheist.

Agree to an extent

I am pro abortion.

Agree to an extent

Anti gun control.

Agree

I'm anti sexism.

Agree

I put humans over animals.

Disagree

I eat all types of foods (omnivore).

Agree

I am mostly pro death penalty.

Disagree

What are your thoughts on LGBT issues?

Side: Ally
1 point

On the issue for lgbt rights i feel they deserve to have rights. Punishing a person for being born a certain way is akin to slavery.

Edit: That only includes when the ways of a person is harmful to anyone.

A rapist, if they are born that way, is not something I support since they are harming others.

Side: Ally
wejdnwjkndjk(5) Disputed
1 point

On the issue for lgbt rights i feel they deserve to have rights. Punishing a person for being born a certain way is akin to slavery.

Edit: That only includes when the ways of a person is harmful to anyone.

A rapist, if they are born that way, is not something I support since they are harming others.

Gays are doing self-harm

Side: Enemy
1 point

against zoophilia-agree atheist-agree pro abortion-disagree Anti gun control-agree I'm anti sexism-agree I put humans over animals-agree I eat all types of foods (omnivore)-agree I am mostly pro death penalty-disagree

Side: Ally
3 points

No, I Don't Give A Damn What Your Criteria Are, But Thanks For Posting.

Side: Enemy
2 points

Death penalty hells nawh, humans above animals- No, humans are animals get it right..

That's it I think, maybe something else in there I disagree with but can't think of atm.

Side: Enemy
1 point

I am against zoophilia. Agree.

I am an atheist. Me too but I don't care.

I am pro abortion. Partially agree

Anti gun control. Meh, agree

I'm anti sexism. Well I hope so, unless you're Muslim

I put humans over animals. Meh, to an extent

I eat all types of foods (omnivore). Who cares?

I am mostly pro death penalty Agree

Side: Enemy
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
1 point

You just want to be my enemy?

Side: Ally
1 point

One can never have too many enemies... isn't that the saying?

Side: Enemy
1 point

Give me one good reason. Zoophilia are wrong. They understand animals better then you.

Side: Enemy
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
1 point

Let's not make this about that I'll only say I've given you enough to think about on other debates where that was the topic.

I'm sorry that that's the one view you feel most strongly about, but I guess it can't be helped. maybe in the future you'll see my other views as a reason to be my ally.

Side: Ally

Against zoophilia (disagree). I am an atheist (agree). I am pro abortion (disagree). Anti gun control (agree). I'm anti sexism (agree). I put humans over animals (disagree). I eat all types of foods (disagree). I am mostly pro death penalty (disagree).

I would consider myself an enemy of you with just these views. I am curious as to your view on drugs, homosexuality, war and economics, I feel those might change my mind.

Side: Enemy
0 points

I am pro abortion

Really? So you think all babies should be aborted? Or are you pro-choice? Wait I dont care

Side: Enemy
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
1 point

That's the issue I have with the term. It sounds so one sided. What i really am, can;'t be shortened without losing it's meaning.

I'm a proponent of the option of abortion. I don't see anything wrong with abortion, and definitely think it should be considered if you can't go through with the birth for some reason.

Side: Ally
1 point

Then you should use the term Pro-Choice, not Pro-Abortion. And Im not sure why you declared me an enemy but whatever

Side: Enemy