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Was Adolf Hitler Christian or Atheist, you tell me?
Adolf Hitler one of the most evil men to ever walk the face of the Earth, so what's the truth, was Adolf Hitlers ideology based off of Christainity or Atheism?
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exposed."
[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on his personal Christian feelings. Published in "My New Order", quoted in Freethought Today April 1990]
Shut up your annoying person!!! You need to get a life! its very sad that you post 5 pages of just crap and epect someone to actually read it you need to go out and fins a nice person to spend more time with because you spend way to much time on your computer buddy!!
Today Christians ... stand at the head of [this country]... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years."
[The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872]
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I dont know but I do know he believed in Aliens which is one reason why he believed his kind was so special to need to rule the world, at least I think anyways.
He indeed believed in aliens, as do I but that's another debate all together. Hitler thought that the pure Aryan race was not from this World and got diluted over time through inner breeding with other Earthy races.
Hitler clearly proclaimed a belief in a God. Therefore he cannot possibly be an atheist.
Hitler identified himself as a Christian. If deciding who is a Christian is based on that person's actions then there are very few Christians in the world. Therefore, if you claim the ability to label people Christian, then Hitler has to be classed as a Christian.
As for the second question of ideology (in the description). Atheism, by definition, has no ideology beyond not accepting the existence of deities. Hitler clearly did not subscribe to this ideology.
Adolf Hitler's religious views are a matter of dispute. Raised by a skeptic Catholic father and a devout Catholic mother, Adolf Hitler ceased to participate in the sacraments after childhood. In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he often made statements that affirmed a belief in Christianity.[1][2] Prior to World War II Hitler had promoted a "positive Christianity" purged of Judaism and instilled with Nazi philosophy. According to the controversial collection of transcripts edited by Martin Bormann, titled Hitler's Table Talk, as well as the testimony of some intimates, Hitler had privately negative views of Christianity. Others reported he was a committed believer
Research the German Faith Movement and Jakob Wilhelm. That might change your mind. The fascist Positive Christianity was used to slowly fade from worshiping God to total obedience to the fatherland. Such is the way of fascism.
Don't ask us, ask the man himself; Read Mein Kampf.
The question isn't relevant anyway, his Christianity wasn't what caused him to hold the views he had. Although, the Christian environment, including the Christian population and the Catholic Church at the time did play a big role in perpetuating anti-semitic views and rarely spoke against him.
I guess he did say he was a Christian in many quotes. Now whether he acted as a Christian should, is another question. Obviously not, because as Christians, we don't have anything against Jews. I don't remember anywhere in the Bible, where it says that we should try and eradicate them. It goes more on the side of living side by side, but yes, I guess he was a Christian.
Because Hitler was big on Christianity. Just because someone doesnt like non-christians doesnt make them a bad person. There is nothing wrong with trying to convert people to Christianity.
If you realise, the debate question and the description are incongruous. The debate question asks about Hitler's personal religious convictions while the description questions the basis of his anti-semetic views.
To me, whether or not Hitler was a Christian, he certainly used Christianity as a weapon against the Jews to propagate his anti-semetic worldview.
Yet you just said that you don't persecute people unless they "bother me first". Now I don't think that Hitler was a Christian, but your reasoning is flawed.
Isn't it weird that she throws out philosophical terms in an attempt to sound sophisticated while giving absolutely no justification for her criticisms?
Au Contraire, I do not see it as being pretentious. She is obviously of far lesser intelligence than most people on this site, and by identifying a fallacy - even incorrectly - in her mind she is leveling the playing field.
I've seen some criticisms of notmymuse, but haven't seen any purpose to look into it. If it (he or she?) disputes me, or gives me any reason to bother with it, I shall look into it.
Many have used religion as a tool to gain political might
Yes, Hitler is merely one of many. There is absolutely no doubt about that. Any one who has even a basic understanding of the German history and the Third Reich would know this.
some blame Machiavelli but I believe that the problem is much more antiquated.
I think it is absolute unfair to blame Machiavelli for Hitler's atrocities. Machiavelli was merely expressing his view and contributing another important work to political philosophy literature.
Of course. My critique was not directed at you, but others who claim that the reason why there are dictators who rule with an iron-fist is due to Machiavelli's philosophy. Some academics even go further to suggest that The Prince was merely political satire and that Machiavelli was merely penning down his observations.
I tend to that position as well. Of course, as with all literature, that view is disputable. My view of The Prince can be summarised by a quote from Sir Salman Rushdie, one of the greatest authors in our time, where he says, "Machiavelli wasn't Machiavellian."
I think Hitler was not a Christian since he killed millions of Jews and Jews do believe in God (Yahweh). If Hitler was a Christian then he wouldn't kill many of his believers and he would obey God's commandment "thou shall not kill". So it is obvious if he kills Jews then he is not a Christian.
Tell that to the Native Americans and just about ever other so called non Christan across the World. A perfect example of Christan's today persecuting people are gays.
I am just trying to make a point. I will never be anyone's door mat. Besides, the Bible says to not throw your pearls before swine, and if someone is abusive to me, they are swine. That said, I try to make things right if I have done wrong. I will not be perfect until I am dead and in Heaven, but that is a whole other story.
I wasn't meaning you ,I'm sure your a good person. I was just stating that so called Christians persecute all the time, as does every other religion, so much evil has been done in the name of religion over our course of history that I can't help but to wonder if we would be better off without it. Hitler used Christan ideology to push his agenda just as many others in the past before him. Without religion we would remove the motive in which many people use to push there evil actions upon the World.
To embrace free thinking with or without God as a motive is where I believe we as a people need to be to help prevent future persecutions towards our fellow man.
Religion can be used as a tool but it is not the only one. In North Korea you have a man that is worshiped as if he was a god. Even if religion went away despots would would still find a way.
Then you do not follow the word of God, and in so, are not actually Christian. In fact, if you've never persecuted a gay or a women who had sex prior to marriage, well then thats just not Christian. Surely you don't fear the punishments of a world so temporary? You'd have the glory of eternal life to look forward to for doing God's bidding.
This is a false dichotomy as he was truly neither. He was religious, but he also didn't like Christianity. He certainly used Christianity to get the people of Germany on his side, but in private despised the church as he saw it a sa rival for power and saw Christiniaty too much like the Jews. His buddy Mussolini however did create the vatican in the form e know it today.