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Personally I don't think anyone can be one or another (good or bad) because it is subject to a persons opinion. But seeing as there are a lot of ignorant people out there that think he was alround bad I'm gonna have to say that overal he was 'good'. Yes I agree that Adolf Hitler made a dick move by killing a heap of homosexuals, black people and Jewish people - there is nothing good I can see in that (however he is a bit unfairly branded as the one that did all the work...Himmler I'm looking at you...). Now that we can all agree that was a shitty thing to do, let me get into why he was 'good'. After WWI the UN (I believe it was, correct me if I'm wrong) made Germany sign an agreement that stated that Germany was solely responsible for WWI in its entirey and that they would not be allowed a propper armed force. Naturally the Geramans were quite pissed. So along comes this dude that says he can bring the country up from the ashes (Hitler), so naturally the Germans are like "SHIT YEAH!" and they all have a sexy party. SO Hitler does bring the country back from the Ashes and builds an entire army, funds schools and other organisations, and overall just fixes the country - so everyone loved him. Then after he died people realised that Hitler probably shoudn't have killed all those Jews, homos and blacks - so he was unfairly branded as 'allround bad'.
So yes Hitler was a 'bad' person, but he was a bloody amazing leader and should get what credit he deservs.
I wouldn't say he was a bloody amazing leader. He went back on his word with Russia, attempted to stab them in the back, and ultimately failed miserably against them. This would eventually turn into a two front war. You don't just walk away from a two front war unscathed (let alone war in general).
He fought too far into Russia too fast, and his troops froze and starved to death from lack of supplies. A VERY dumb move on his part. That was the first mistake. The second was that while he was losing in Russia, he declared war on the United States. Now, at this time America had declared war on the Japanese... but not Germany. He sealed his fate when he decided to declare war on so many people at once.
You make it look like Germany and The Soviet Union were best friends before Barbarossa. The Molotov Ribentraup pact only dived up eastern europe between two power hungry dictators. The war with Russia was inevitable both sides had already plans if the other attacked. The Sheer hatred between the comunists (Ussr) and the Fascists (Germany) was seen when Spain had a civil war in 1937 i believe, both countries funded oposite groups although the fascists eventually won over the comunists. The war was inevitable if Hitler Focused every last effort on Britain whos to say Stalin wouldnt turn his back on the treaty AFTER ALL STALIN WAS THE SAME DESPICABLE MAN HITLER WAS KILLING 15 MILLION PEOPLE DUE TO PARANOIA, AND BUTCHERD 90% OF THE SOVIET OFICER CORE
I do not remember making them look like best friends, but I assume they shared the random bottle of vodka in their down time ;). When I stated that he stabbed them in the back, I mean that he pulled a MUCH larger country into a war... the same country that they were at peace with at the time. I would dispute that last part, but I am still trying to make sense of it with the grammar errors and all. Not to mention the caps lock...
Ok, first of all, let me say that this was a Fking good argument. Seriously. This is genius, amazing, and awesome. However, i do disagree.
The idea of good and bad, are not necessarily about your ability to do things, such as reviving a country 'from the ashes,' it's about how you USE your resources. If you are a good leader, and create good things, but then use your leadership to commit bad actions, you are not still being good.
For example, say someone came along and removed all of our country's problems, but while doing it destroyed all of the people in our country who were not born here. I think we can agree that this would go against basic human values, and would be considered 'bad.' Or, if we killed about 11 million people to save our country, the actions would outweigh the result.
So, even if Hitler was an amazing leader, that does not excuse the fact that he used his leadership skills to commit 'bad' actions, which is why Hitler was bad, not good.
is this even a question? he murdered, MURDERED over 6 million jews, and countless homosexuals, disabled people, and gypsies. he TORTURED tons of people. because he made the country rich he was good? he created a world war! the only reason he got the money is because he STOLE it from the people who he sent to ghettos, concentration camps, and death camps. You think that is a good leader? your idea of good is fucked up.
I believe Hitler was both good and bad. The way he lived, and the drugs he did, the decisions he made- horrible. He is no different from any political leader, in fact- many of America's wars and tactics are modeled from Hitler's ideas. Ex:Eugenics
he murdered, MURDERED over 6 million jews, and countless homosexuals, disabled people, and gypsies. he TORTURED tons of people.
I acknowledged that.
because he made the country rich he was good?
Yes, without him, germany would be practically a third world country
he created a world war!
Incorrect; those that opposed him created it. On country cannot create a world war, many countries do. And he had good reasons for helping to start one
the only reason he got the money is because he STOLE it from the people who he sent to ghettos, concentration camps, and death camps
the only reason America got the money is because they STOLE it from the people who live in foreign countries by pretending to help them. See how I can easily change that? That just proves how ignorant you are.
You think that is a good leader?
One that practically saves their country by brining them back to the status of a major world power? Yup.
your idea of good is fucked up.
Clearly your idea of bad is fucked up. Stop being ignorant and learn to argue intelligently and look beyond the propaganda, you dumbass.
How did he leave germany in ruins? Have you ever studied wwii in history? Clearly not. The allies, mainly soviets, british, and americans left germany in ruins. Hitler was the man who restored order in germany after it was left in economic ruin after it signed the treaty of varsailles.
Germany was better before he seize the power than after
No it wasn't. Do some research. Everything you say is the opposite of what actually occured. The treaty of versailles required germany to pay €6,600 million. The war cost germany a lot of money. The money they had to pay impoverished germany. There was inflation so bad, that if you went to a bar, the cost of the drink would increase by the time you finished. There were very few jobs. After wwi ended, hitler couldn't find a job- no one could! Hitler created jobs and rebuilt the economy. Please, at least study how germany was after wwi. Hitler turned a third world country to a superpower. Nazi Germany was a center for technological advancements. Thanks to nazi aerodynamics, we have nasa. An ex-nazi, Wernher Von Braun, helped NASA develop rocket ships and win the space race. Under hitler, the Nazi army nearly conquered europe.
If hitler hadn't been elected Führer, germany would've been a third world country. Communism would've spread throughout europe. The germans would've had no job, no money, no patriotism. many animals would've gone extinct since hitler enforced many laws protecting animals. I said this a lot, but please, research wwii, the condition germany was in, and how hitler benefited germany.
Is this not what GWB did? Are we still at war killing Afghanis, Iraquis etc. That's what I mean. All people are good and bad. Some people are more bad than good. I didn't know Adolf, personally.
if you acknowleged that you shouldnt think hes good dumbshit
"those that opposed him created it" your so stupid you ever wonder why they oppose him? not because he was a murderer or anything!
your so racist!
and stop shitting about america we dont pretend to help we do help
your so stubborn you HAVE to be right, hes good oh and yeah he killed millions of people, but he got money! he must be amazing right? oh and if your too stupid to see that was SARCASTIC!!! my idea of bad is NOT fucked up the library lady at my school is from the holocaust she was sent to death camp you see the tortured look in her eyes, how she tells us how wonderful it is to see children everyday and how lucky we are to have whaat we need. She cant walk right, she has frostibite, and shes just ONE person! thats one wittness, look around for more u asshole!!!
That doesn't make sense. Something shouldn't be a question? WHY?!?!?! WHAT!?!?!?! Anything can be a bloody question.
if you acknowleged that you shouldnt think hes good dumbshit
Did you read what I even said? Did any of you? I said he was a terrible person but a great leader, fucktard.
"those that opposed him created it" your so stupid you ever wonder why they oppose him? not because he was a murderer or anything!
What are you going on about?
your so racist!
What the fuck? I'm not and how is that relevant?
and stop shitting about america we dont pretend to help we do help
Oh really? Do Afghanistan, Iraq, Panama, kosovo, Yugoslavia, Cuba, Vietnam, Mexico, or Cambodia ring any bells? Or do you just live in a hole?
your so stubborn you HAVE to be right,
Incorrect, you just refuse to accept the fact that he helped rebuild the country; in turn making you stubborn.
the library lady at my school is from the holocaust she was sent to death camp you see the tortured look in her eyes, how she tells us how wonderful it is to see children everyday and how lucky we are to have whaat we need.
Irrelevant, but whatever. I know people that were affected by the holocaust as well, does that mean that I can't acknowledge Hitler as a good leader (and for the billionth time, not good person, good LEADER. Got it yet? LEADER!)
shes just ONE person!
No shit.
thats one wittness, look around for more u asshole!!!
As stated before, I know some. I also know black people that were beaten, raped and abused because of how badly the US Government treated black people in the 40's. But America is a billion times better than Germany, isn't it? They are sooooooo different. You are a fucking ignorant douche bag, and I don't give a shit if you continue to think Hitler was all round bad - but learn to argue intelligently and not be so biased you stupid shit.
a bad person is a bad leader. he may have put the country out of ruins but that doesnt mean he was a good leader. because a good leader isnt about only riches. a good leader has to have morals, and CLEARLY he didnt have good morals. therefore he wasnt a good leader. i dont care if he got them rich, money doesnt buy happiness. neither does murdering. and guess what? you think im stupid shit, yet your arguing with a 14 year old! feel stupid yet that she is winning you?
His morals made sense and were good within a certain world view, fascism may have as its philosophical base an inaccurate central driving force of world affairs but if one fails to see this inaccuracy most of hitlers actions become admirable, even wise.
If your read "The Prince", you will find arguments about what a good leader is and it will likely be different than what you seem like you would expect in a good leader. A good leader must know how to turn the devil into god and god into the devil, to be good while being evil and evil well good, I would say hitler was good at that.
i dont think you guys understand. he MURDERED 6 MILLION PEOPLE!!!! No person that can do that is a good leader. its not about the money, dont you see!!! if murder for no reason other than prejudices doesnt matter than i dont know what this world has come to
I understand perfectly, I'm just trying to make an interesting debate by supporting the side most people would disagree with. If you weren't so immature and actually listened to what I had say, accepted both sides of the argument, and stopped being so biased then I wouldn't have called you things like 'dumbfuck'. As I said previously, I acknowledge the fact that he was a murderer, but to say he had no good in him at all is complete ignorance.
so why are you even debating me? to get a kick out of it? someone like hitler is EVIL. he was mental. he might have had some good in him UNTIL he became a leader. He destroyed his countries reputation forever
people can be evil, go ask osama... oh wait hes dead, after being killed when he was hidden- we seeked him out after he knocked over the twin towers with over 1000 people in it! That is another example of evilness
As long as there is one person alive that liked someone then nobody can be truly evil. People worshiped Osama as a God; so I would hardly call that evil. And I'll tell you what, I might reconsider my position if you can give me any evidence that Osama actually blew up the towers. But guess what? You can't; because there is none. America needed an excuse to invade so they 'got' one, now I'm not saying Osama is good; he was a prick, but there is no proof suggesting he blew up those towers, quite the opposite actually. Also America ILLEGALLY invaded another country to kill Osama, and along with Osama they killed a lot of innocent bystanders, not only was this disgusting enough, they had no right to kill Osama in the first place. Osama should have been taken to trial; not killed, which is yet another illegal act from the 'great' country of America.
you want proof? go to the graveyard, look at my dads tombstone, that should be enough proof! osama killed lots of innocent bystanders, you wanna TRY to give me that shit??? osama deserved it.
look at my dads tombstone, that should be enough proof!
Last time I checked a tombstone isn't adequate proof. I could have them write "killed by a giant leprechaun" on my tombstone when I die, but it doesn't make it so. Your blatant ignorance brought on by endless amounts of ridiculous propaganda from the American government is obvious, perhaps you should do some research into subjects before you start talking shit about things you clearly know nothing about. You have still failed to provide any real proof to back up your claim that Osama was behind 9/11, and have resulted to making claims that cannot be backed up. Guess what? You lost mate.
By your assessment a good number of american presidents are not good leaders, the same with most leaders though out all of human history. Death and killing is a natural part of being a leader.
i agree with you, a number of american presidents are not good leaders! however, there is a difference in killing for war purposes and killing for no reason other than differences in religion or beliefs or race!
idk how blind you are, did yopu not just see supremepizza call me dumb fuck, stupid, biased,and other things? we both disputed like that. so start looking harder if that is all you can see
I don't know what you are talking about, your post was petulant because you lost the argument. If you go back over it as I've just done, you'll find yourself to be the aggressor. So please don't tell me how to read, thanks.
what i am saying is that while i might have been aggressive, supremepizza was just as much! i am telling you to read because while you might have read my posts you definitely didnt read his time where he was petulant
"Incorrect; those that opposed him created it. On country cannot create a world war, many countries do. And he had good reasons for helping to start one"
The reason the war was started was because Germany, under Hitler's rule, violated the treaty signed after WWI, stating that Germany could not have its own armed forces, by creating an army.
To all the countless people mentioning the holocuast
America Remember those indians you butcherd and kicked out of your country???
Spain Remember those Aztecs and Indiginous mexican South american people you killed for gold and land?
Israel remember Palestine???
Uk Remember killing those indians and africans for land??
Belgium Remember how you treated the people of the Congo
Poland Remember how you invaded every country bordering you for land after becoming independent (lithuania Czech Republic Russia) and how you treated your ukrainian majority in south eastern poland as bad as the germans treated jews
China Do i even have to say anything here
France Remember how you killed millions of africans and asians for colonies and is disrespectfull to foreigners today
EVERY COUNTRY HAS DONE A TON OF BAD THINGS IN HISTORY IN STEAD OF DEMONIZING HITLER DEMONIZE EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS KILLED ANOTHER PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After WW1 Germany was bankrupt and without friends in Europe. There was no feasible way to lower unemployment and inflation and get the economy back on track. There was no one to trade with.
On his rise to power Adolf Hitler used expansion to re employ the German People. The building of Autobahns and new architecture, huge stadiums and places for huge political rallies were built. These employed huge amounts of people. Then there was rearming and again millions more were employed. The economy was back on track and looking good.
If the average German family saved just 5 marks a week, they could own a brand new VolksWagon, that's how good it was.
Personally, i feel Hitler was not a very bad kinda guy....... We all know that the Germans had suffered a setback in the first world war. If it was not for Hitler, the nation would have sunk into the depths of economic crisis. It was Hitler who brought the economy of the nation back on its legs.........And to think of it, he had developed the nation so much that he went into another war within a very short time............. If it was not for the war Germany would have risen to greater heights but that does'nt matter as it was only the good things that appeared big for me............
It wasn't just the Jews it was disabled people, Slavic peoples, gypsies, gays, Jehovah's witnesses, black people, people of different political views and beliefs. He also unfairly treated women. 5 million people died in the holocaust who were not Jewish.
You cannot consider the fact that yes, he killed over six million Jews, but the fact that he changed Germany in so many different ways is what makes him good. He increased the production of many products and also changed much of the architecture. I have so much respect for this man due to the fact that he could change things so easily and make an enormous and beneficial result. Yes, he created a massive war but the choice was all in those that chose to favor Hitler. If enough people rejected Hitler's dictatorship then he would have more than likely been removed or attacked. So before you go on speaking of him killing six million Jews, thinking of all the positive changes before hand and ignore the genocide.
You cannot consider the fact that yes, he killed over six million Jews
Excuse me but:
Increasing the production of weapons, nearly producing the atomic bomb, building temples to the glory of the third reich cannot be described by a reasoned mind, as offsetting one of the worst genocides in history. This is not even mentioning the destruction of many great cities in Europe. Decades of humiliation for the German people, the prevention of their leadership role Europe for decades to come. The exodus if its greatest minds. Come On!
The best thing that ever happened to Germany's future was loosing the war.
Despite it being the worst genocides in history, Hitler changed decades all over the world. He helped people quit smoking because he was concerned with their health. In 1940, the annual cigarette consumption in Germany was 749 while America smoked over 3,000. The Autobahn? Yup. Hitler encourage for a larger network of roads to be built across Germany. This established the FIRST freeway system in the world. This eventually spread through out continents and forever changed the way humans travel. Also, the building of the Autobahn provided over 100,000 workers with jobs necessary for economic efforts. Did I mention Hitler wanted to bring UNITY through road way systems.The man who helped America send a man to the moon? Wernher Von Braun? He was a member of the Nazi party and was a Schutzstaffel officer. He developed the Saturn V booster rocket. That was the one carrying man to the moon in the summer of 1969. This former Nazi opened the gate to space travel. HE WAS A NAZI. Just like Hitler. Hitler helped people realize their full potentials. He was a great guy.
Despite it being the worst genocides in history, Hitler changed decades all over the world. He helped people quit smoking because he was concerned with their health. In 1940, the annual cigarette consumption in Germany was 749 while America smoked over 3,000. The Autobahn? Yup. Hitler encourage for a larger network of roads to be built across Germany. This established the FIRST freeway system in the world. This eventually spread through out continents and forever changed the way humans travel. Also, the building of the Autobahn provided over 100,000 workers with jobs necessary for economic efforts. Did I mention Hitler wanted to bring UNITY through road way systems.The man who helped America send a man to the moon? Wernher Von Braun? He was a member of the Nazi party and was a Schutzstaffel officer. He developed the Saturn V booster rocket. That was the one carrying man to the moon in the summer of 1969. This former Nazi opened the gate to space travel. HE WAS A NAZI. Just like Hitler. Hitler helped people realize their full potentials. He was a great guy.
Hitler was a good person because he save Germany from starvation. Germany was in a depressor and with money being worthless he saved them by giving them food from France which was taken over.
Anyway- he was correct about Christianity!! And all 3 Abrahamic religions. He was correct about EVOLUTION of MAN!! Without him, we continue to meander along I. Evolutionary PAUSE.
Anyway- he was correct about Christianity!! And all 3 Abrahamic religions. He was correct about EVOLUTION of MAN!! Without him, we continue to meander along I. Evolutionary PAUSE.
Hitler is a hero to many Germans at that time. He transformed Germany from a weakened and depressed nation after World War One into a solid and respected country.
Hitler was not good because he killed many Jews and Christians this is what he said in the book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young
Here is what he said in this book about Christianity itself:
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:
National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)
10th October, 1941, midday:
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)
14th October, 1941, midday:
The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)
19th October, 1941, night:
The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.
21st October, 1941, midday:
Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65)
13th December, 1941, midnight:
Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119)
14th December, 1941, midday:
Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)
9th April, 1942, dinner:
There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339)
27th February, 1942, midday:
It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold ." (p 278)
Hitler was born a Christian, and he took money from the Catholic church which supported the Nazi party- as did America. He was wrong for killing so many innocent people, but I'm afraid he was right about Christianity.
That's not even an argument? That is just copying and pasting something from another website we all agree upon anyway. Also Hitler was a Catholic, just to let you know ;)
Well, since most people are judged based on how they end their career, and or life, I have to say bad. In fact, he was really, really bad. But, I have to wonder if he was also suffering from a series of horrible things that occured to him over the course of his life. He may have started out life like all of us...somewhat innocent. But alas, his end was bad...so, BAD IT IS!
Great leader; I will give him that. But no matter how you chalk it up, he ordered the mass murder of millions of innocent people. That cannot be considered good and is unforgivable.
Proof? Although the Nazi Party did kill many, many people it never directly came from Hitler. Also, in his eyes, they were not innocent. I am merely being the Devil's Advocate here, but imagine it like this: it is like with Americans, most believe terrorists are bad and would see it as a good thing getting rid of them all. You have to put it into perspective on where the person comes from and whether or not it is their fault directly. Personally I believe a sin is a sin, but it could quite easily be argued it was a result of the anti-Semite atmosphere in Europe and most of the world at that period of time.
he's clearly a wicked person.... he killed a lot of innocent people, and without any logical reasons. he killed 'em just coz he hated 'em. he didn't even do any good both to the Jews and the Germans
he killed a lot of innocent people, and without any logical reasons. he killed 'em just coz he hated 'em.
Haven't done your research, aye? There is a bit more to do with it than just 'hating' them. Also at that time everyone hated Jews, homos, blacks, ect... so it was quite hypocritical of the Americans especially to be calling the Nazis 'evil'.
Americans weren't the one's mass murdering innocents...nor was anyone else besides the German Nazi Party...
WOW...are you that ignorant? Okay let me give you a list of what the 'good' countries did:
AMERICA: During the Second World War, the Allied aerial forces performed air raids on civilian populations in Europe and over Japan. These actions were retrospectively called crimes by some historians,[4] and were also viewed as such by the leaders of the Axis Powers during the war (Linked with the Bombing of Dresden)
BRITAIN During the first years of British rule in Iraq, numerous attacks on civilians were carried out, including village burning and indiscriminate bombing. (The Iraqi revolt)
CANADA C.P. Stacey, the Canadian official campaign historian, reports that on 14 April 1945 rumours had been spread that the popular commanding officer of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders of Canada had been killed by a civilian sniper; this resulted in the Highlanders setting fire to civilian property within the town of Friesoythe in a case of reprisal. Stacey later wrote that the Canadian troops first removed German civilians from their property before setting the houses on fire, he commented that he was "glad to say that [he] never heard of another such case". It was later found that German soldiers had in fact killed the Argyll's commander, Lieutenant Colonel Stewart.
FRANCE Following the Operation Dragoon landings in southern France and the collapse of the German military occupation in August 1944, large numbers of Germans could not escape from France and surrendered to the French Forces of the Interior. The Resistance killed few of their Wehrmacht prisoners, but most of their Gestapo or SS prisoners did not survive.
AUSTRALIA According to Mark Johnston, "the killing of unarmed Japanese was common" and Australian command tried to put pressure on troops to actually take prisoners, but the troops proved reluctant. When prisoners were indeed taken "it often proved difficult to prevent them from killing captured Japanese before they could be interrogated".[58] According to Charles Lindbergh, the Australians often threw prisoners out from aircraft, then claimed they had committed suicide. According to Johnston, as a consequence of this type of behavior; "Some Japanese soldiers were almost certainly deterred from surrendering to Australians". Major General Paul Cullen indicated that the killing of Japanese prisoners in the Kokoda Track Campaign was not uncommon. In one instance he recalled during the battle at Gorari that "the leading platoon captured five or seven Japanese and moved on to the next battle. The next platoon came along and bayoneted these Japanese." He also stated that he found the killings understandable but that it had left him feeling guilty.
And yes, I'm Australian so I'm not being biased at all. How about the next time you make a claim like that ("Americans weren't the one's mass murdering innocents...nor was anyone else besides the German Nazi Party...") you can back it up.
Americans weren't the one's mass murdering innocents...nor was anyone else besides the German Nazi Party...
WOW...are you that ignorant? Okay let me give you a list of what the 'good' countries did:
AMERICA: During the Second World War, the Allied aerial forces performed air raids on civilian populations in Europe and over Japan. These actions were retrospectively called crimes by some historians,[4] and were also viewed as such by the leaders of the Axis Powers during the war (Linked with the Bombing of Dresden)
BRITAIN During the first years of British rule in Iraq, numerous attacks on civilians were carried out, including village burning and indiscriminate bombing. (The Iraqi revolt)
CANADA C.P. Stacey, the Canadian official campaign historian, reports that on 14 April 1945 rumours had been spread that the popular commanding officer of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders of Canada had been killed by a civilian sniper; this resulted in the Highlanders setting fire to civilian property within the town of Friesoythe in a case of reprisal. Stacey later wrote that the Canadian troops first removed German civilians from their property before setting the houses on fire, he commented that he was "glad to say that [he] never heard of another such case". It was later found that German soldiers had in fact killed the Argyll's commander, Lieutenant Colonel Stewart.
FRANCE Following the Operation Dragoon landings in southern France and the collapse of the German military occupation in August 1944, large numbers of Germans could not escape from France and surrendered to the French Forces of the Interior. The Resistance killed few of their Wehrmacht prisoners, but most of their Gestapo or SS prisoners did not survive.
AUSTRALIA According to Mark Johnston, "the killing of unarmed Japanese was common" and Australian command tried to put pressure on troops to actually take prisoners, but the troops proved reluctant. When prisoners were indeed taken "it often proved difficult to prevent them from killing captured Japanese before they could be interrogated".[58] According to Charles Lindbergh, the Australians often threw prisoners out from aircraft, then claimed they had committed suicide. According to Johnston, as a consequence of this type of behavior; "Some Japanese soldiers were almost certainly deterred from surrendering to Australians". Major General Paul Cullen indicated that the killing of Japanese prisoners in the Kokoda Track Campaign was not uncommon. In one instance he recalled during the battle at Gorari that "the leading platoon captured five or seven Japanese and moved on to the next battle. The next platoon came along and bayoneted these Japanese." He also stated that he found the killings understandable but that it had left him feeling guilty.
And yes, I'm Australian so I'm not being biased at all. How about the next time you make a claim like that ("Americans weren't the one's mass murdering innocents...nor was anyone else besides the German Nazi Party...") you can back it up.
Remember those people who were on North America before the whites came..........Oh and where did they go?? Oh what?? They were killed by the americans and forced to live in "reservations"
All religious,political, and national undertones aside... I believe he was bad for the world. Between his murdering, his hate mongering, his stealing, his blatant disrespect for human life, and the disrespect he had for his own family... I'm not quite sure why I dislike him. Yes. He economically helped germany. However, he was a tactical mess waiting to happen. Honestly, no rational commander would send his under supplied troops to attack Russia in the winter. Under supplied because you can't out flank Russia... Its HUGE. They over stretched their supply lines... but I digress. Ultimately, he did more harm than good. By a LARGE amount.
Hitler was the most powerful leader that humanity have ever seen. But the actions that were dictated by this leader were damaging and unfair. He killed thousands of people and almost destroyed a nation. We don't know what he was like inside, may be he was a good person with his wife. But we can't judge by that. We can only judge by looking at his actions. And what he has done to the world shall never be repeated again.
what nation did hitler almost destroy? If youre taking about germany, then your waaaayyyyy off. Hitler saved and rebuilt germany after the allies destroyed it. If your taking about the aftermath, then the allies destroyed it. If your taking about france, they were the ones responsible destroying germany, so it was pretty much revenge.
Good; adj; of high quality: excelent. I think hitler fits this discription. He was a great orator. One of, if not, the best in the world since he was very pursuasive. He was a "high quality" soldier since he received 2 iron crosses (1 first class, 1 2nd class) in world war 1. He was an exellent leader since he led the small national socialist german workers (nsdap or nazis) from a minority group to the largest party in germany and made them win many seats in the reichstag. He was also a great artist. I'm not kidding, look up his art. He originally wanted to be an artist.
Good: adj; morraly good righteaous. Hitler was a vegetarian and often gave graphic discriptions of animals being slaughtered to make dinner guests shun meat. He banned vivsection, rebuilt the german economy and restored national pride- something absent for the end of wwi to his rule. He protected animals, put into action severe hunting restrictions and because of his actions, many endangered animals are still around. He even sent many men to concentraion camps for breaking these laws He enforced family values and even launched one of the molst succesful anti-smoking campaigns.. he even commisioned the invention for a cheap, efficient car the average german could afford: the volkswagon (literally peoples car).
Bad: adj of poor quality: inferior. Does he fit this discription?
I say Hitler was one of the worst people to ever exist, I listen to the people what happen in those camp's the horrible thing that happen to them. They saw children die, the elderly suffer. The people in those camp would last for 9 month then die
Do you bother to look into both sides of the argument, or are you ignorant? Also HE did not kill millions of Jews, he gave the orders for people to kill them, I'm sick of dumb-fucks making that ignorant mistake in every single post on this bloody debate.
Okay... What the fuck is the difference? He didn't kill someone himself but ordered someone weaker to him who cannot say no to him to murder... While he watched. Wow.... Is something wrong with you?
I was just making a point, I wasn't saying it made a hell of a difference. So if you can't argue intelligently then just go fuck yourself you arrogant prick.
"""naturally the Germans are like "SHIT YEAH!" and they all have a sexy party. SO Hitler does bring the country back from the Ashes and builds an entire army, funds schools and other organisations, and overall just fixes the country - so everyone loved him""" Everyone loved him or majority his country which is a bias opinion being they received benefits during the chaos. Asking Jewish, homosexuals, and human beings in general; you'd get no he was scumbag leader! In order for his country to be prosperous him and his regime oppressed and tortured hundreds of thousands
