Debate Info

Yes How...How dare you
Debate Score:36
Total Votes:37
More Stats

Argument Ratio

side graph
 Yes (12)
 How...How dare you (9)

Debate Creator

Delta(1348) pic

Was Jesus Christ a Jew


Side Score: 16

How...How dare you

Side Score: 20
2 points

yeah .......

Side: Yes
Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
2 points

He most likely never existed, he is a mixture of other local myths.

Krishna, born from virgin, son of god, carpenter, resurrection...

Horus: born from virgin on December 25, birth announced by star, crucified and burred in a tomb and resurrected, walked on water, part of Trinity...

Mirtha: born on Dec 25th from virgin, had 12 companions, promised immortality to followers, had his principal festival on what was later to become Easter, said "He who shall not eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved."

Virtually all of the elements of the Catholic ritual, from miter to wafer to altar to doxology, are directly taken from earlier Pagan mystery religions.

Side: How...How dare you
lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

First off, the reason as to why there had been false "Messiahs" before is because the Old Testament had predicted Him. The bible even addresses this issue in Acts 5:

Acts 5:33-42

English Standard Version (ESV)

33 When they heard this, they were enraged and wanted to kill them. 34 But a Pharisee in the council named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law held in honor by all the people, stood up and gave orders to put the men outside for a little while. 35 And he said to them, “Men of Israel, take care what you are about to do with these men. 36 For before these days Theudas rose up, claiming to be somebody, and a number of men, about four hundred, joined him. He was killed, and all who followed him were dispersed and came to nothing. 37 After him Judas the Galilean rose up in the days of the census and drew away some of the people after him. He too perished, and all who followed him were scattered. 38 So in the present case I tell you, keep away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or this undertaking is of man, it will fail; 39 but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them. You might even be found opposing God!” So they took his advice, 40 and when they had called in the apostles, they beat them and charged them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. 41 Then they left the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer dishonor for the name. 42 And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they did not cease teaching and preaching that the Christ is Jesus.

However, if you want even more answers look to the following website:

It addresses the issues that you have brought up and it is very well cited.

Side: Yes
2 points

It even says so in the Bible. Read it. Duh. Christianity didn't even exist back then so you can't argue that he was Christian. He. Was. A. Jew.

Side: Yes
2 points

Yes he Was a Jew. He actually was Of the lineage of David and if Israel hadn't ended up under Roman control he would be the Jewish king.

Side: Yes
Zingo79(6) Clarified
1 point

Sorry he is a Jew. However he wasnt part of the judaism religion.

Side: Yes
2 points

Most of the Jesus's I know are Mexican.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yeah because The christian religion is based on him and wasnr around when he was alive

Side: Yes

It is kinda tricky to say. There are two main differences between jews and christans.

1)Christans believe Jesus was the messaih, jews do not

2)Christans read both the old and new testiment, jews only read the old testiment

Jesus proclaimed himself as the messah, so he could be considered as christan by the first apest.

However at the time the new testiment did not exist yet, so he could have only studied the old testiment. There fore he would be considered a jew in the second aspect.

I guess in the end it could go either way, but considering that he was called "the king of the jews", himself would be better describe as jewish.

Side: Yes

I wonder, hmmm...

Oh yes, Jesus was the King of the Jews! Not Christians, coz Christianity hadn't been invented then, the king of the jews.

Side: Yes
1 point

Jesus clearly identified with the Jews of His day, His physical people and tribe, and their religion (although correcting its errors).. God purposely sent Him to Judah: “He came to His own [Judah], and His own [Judah] did not receive Him. But as many [Jews] as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name... (John 1:11-12 NKJV), and He clearly said, "You [Gentiles] worship what you do not know; we [Jews] know what we [Jews] worship, for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22).

The very first verse of the New Testament clearly proclaims the Jewish ethnicity of Jesus. “The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham” (Matthew 1:1). It is evident from passages like Hebrews 7:14, “For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah,” that Jesus descended from the tribe of Judah, from which we get the name “Jew.” And what about Mary, the mother of Jesus? In the genealogy in Luke chapter 3, we see clearly that Mary was a direct descendant of King David which gave Jesus the legal right to ascend the Jewish throne as well as establishing without any doubt that Jesus was a Jew ethnically.

Was Jesus an observant Jew religiously? Both of Jesus' parents had “done everything required by the Law of the Lord” (Luke 2:39). His aunt and uncle, Zechariah and Elizabeth, were also Torah-observant Jews (Luke 1:6), so we can see that probably the whole family took their Jewish faith very seriously.

In the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5–7), Jesus continually affirmed the authority of the Torah and the Prophets (Matthew 5:17) even in the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 5:19-20). He regularly attended synagogue (Luke 4:16), and His teaching was respected by the other Jews of His day (Luke 4:15). He taught in the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem (Luke 21:37), and if He were not a Jew, His going into that part of the Temple would simply not have been allowed (Acts 21:28-30).

Jesus also displayed the outward signs of being an observant Jew. He wore tzitzit (tassles) on His clothing (Luke 8:43; Matthew 14:36) to serve as a reminder of the commandments (Numbers 15:37-39). He observed Passover (John 2:13) and went up to Jerusalem (Deuteronomy 16:16) on this very important Jewish pilgrimage feast day. He observed Succoth, or the feast of tabernacles (John 7:2, 10) and went up to Jerusalem (John 7:14) as required in the Torah. He also observed Hanukah, the festival of lights (John 10:22) and probably Rosh Hashanah, the feast of trumpets (John 5:1), going up to Jerusalem on both those occasions as well, even though it isn't commanded in the Torah. Clearly, Jesus identified Himself as a Jew (John 4:22) and as King of the Jews (Mark 15:2). From His birth to His last Passover Seder (Luke 22:14-15), Jesus lived as an observant Jew.

So, if Jesus was a Jew, why is it that Christians don’t follow Judaism? The Laws of Judaism were given to Moses for the children of Israel in a very sacred and special covenant at Mount Sinai and recorded for us in the book of Exodus. In this covenant, God wrote His laws on tablets of stone, and Israel was commanded to be obedient to all that was revealed to them. But this wonderful covenant was only a picture of a New and better covenant that God would one day give to His people, both Jew and Gentile.

This new covenant is recorded for us in Jeremiah 31:31-34, “‘The time is coming,’ declares the LORD, ‘when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,’ declares the LORD. ‘This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time,’ declares the LORD. ‘I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, “Know the LORD,” because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest,’ declares the LORD. ‘For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.’”

Christians don’t follow Judaism today because the Mosaic covenant has been fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Jesus said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them” (Matthew 5:17). And the writer to the Hebrews wrote, “By calling this covenant ‘new,’ he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear” (Hebrews 8:13).

As Christians we don’t need to follow the old covenant any longer because that old covenant has been replaced. We now have a better covenant, with a better sacrifice, administered by a better High Priest! “Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful” (Hebrews 10:19-23).


Side: Yes
1 point

Wow, nice use of a source! I'll try adding a source next time I want to prove a point!

Side: Yes
3 points

Nah man he was a Mormon, from America of course!

Side: How...How dare you

It depends on how you wanna look at it. Feasibly he became the first Christian. Not if you define "Christian" as "follower of Christ" because Jesus didn't follow himself, but many people believe anyone who has accepted Jesus as their lord and savior is a Christian. It's actually a very popular contemporary definition. And Jesus absolutely did believe that he was the lord and savior of humanity, so in that regard he was kind of patient zero for Christianity, and a Christian himself.

Side: How...How dare you
KitKat101(32) Disputed
1 point

I've made this point already!

"It even says so in the Bible. Read it. Duh. Christianity didn't even exist back then so you can't argue that he was Christian. He. Was. A. Jew."

Side: Yes
1 point

Yeah.. How dare you!

ujhnvlikjlvsvskjvsjbvaskjvnlajbnvshnjnvjakjvnakjnvn vmclbvjanvjn ldskhn;ajfnvkj lj bnalvjnaj

Side: How...How dare you