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Was former President Carter out of line for comments he recently made?

The issue is was former President Carter out of line for comments he made last week about racism playing a part in Obama's presidency?  Public protest against some of his new controversial bills that they are proposing and trying to pass calling the public out and accusing us of racism.

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Side Score: 28
2 points

Yes he was a one term one hit wonder that got us into one of the worst recessions since the great depression worse than it is now. Super high interest rates and out of control debt. One term president please go away your not worthy and stop with your ludicrous comments that do nothing but hurt the system instead of lifitng it up. My wife is part African American so when i disagree with her does that make me racist? I'm insulted that if we disagree with our president becuase of his color that his pundents are pulling the race card.

Side: yes
3 points

his pundents are pulling the race card

That means they are panicking, running out of ideas.

Side: yes
Mahollinder(893) Disputed
2 points

Former President Carter did not assert that disagreeing with Obama is racism.

Side: No
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
2 points

Then why does he think Joe Wilson is racist? Do you think that?

Side: yes
jtopolnak(158) Disputed
1 point

The topic is do you think that the comments he made where out of line? I think yes he did nothing to help anything but only to hurt, someone should really tell him to be quite. The media loves this stuff and that's all I heard for 3 days was racism because of Obama's color, i just don't beleive that.

Side: yes
jtopolnak(158) Disputed
1 point

He said that the criticism that the president is getting is racially motivated because he is black. How much more clearer does that need to be about former Pres. Carter's comments? That's what he said. At least Obama has taken it in stride and made fun of it, that I give him credit for.

Side: yes
2 points

Absolutely, Insult and calling names is a sign you have lost the debate. To say that there is no reason for the criticism of Obama's policies other than racism is simply an acknowledgment that you can't dispute the claims. Because if you could, then you would.

Side: yes
1 point

Anyone who thinks Joe Wilson yelled "you lie" because he is racist is an idiot playing along with whatever the fringe media wants them to.

Side: yes

What you have to realize is that Carter is over 80 years old and he was traumatized by his.... shall we say..., lack luster presidency. He is both in denial over his stupidity while president and currently he has either dementia or he's senile. In short, you can't blame an idiot for being an idiot. That's like kicking a man while he's down ;)

Side: No
1 point

That's awfully harsh. Carter's presidency, albeit horrible, is completely irrevelant to this discussion.

Side: No
2 points

No, it is not. He was out of touch with reality then and he's out of touch with reality now. It is extremely harsh for him to say that the majority of people in this country are racist. It is harsh, unnecessary, cruel and insensitive for him to make such an accusation and I won't make excuses for him.

Side: yes
jtopolnak(158) Disputed
1 point

How is it harsh and irrelevant when that is the topic. He added fuel to the media fire by his comments.

Side: yes
1 point

My policy is "Find the line and cross it".

Do I agree with Carter? Of course not, the man's a fuckin' idiot. But when he makes retarded statements like these, it just shows us how far his idiocy goes.

Another good thing about this is that it lowers his credibility even more.

1. He's suggesting that someone's a racist because they disagree with a black guy. What are you when you disagree with Bush? "fighting the power". Disagree with Obama? "A racist". O-KKK.

2. Obama actually said that he doesn't find anyone racist if they disagree with him. So now Carter just contradicted Obama. Who supports him now? Probably radical groups like Code Pink who hate anyone who doesn't stop all war and fighting immediately.

Side: No
Mahollinder(893) Disputed
1 point

He's suggesting that someone's a racist because they disagree with a black guy.

According to what he actually said, this analysis is wrong.

So now Carter just contradicted Obama.

Only based on your skewed analysis.

Side: yes
ThePyg(6743) Disputed
3 points

"overwhelming portion of the animosity towards Obama is based on the fact that he's a black man."

Yes, that's HIS QUOTE. He's saying that MOST (sorry I didn't say most before, but it's really not that necessary, splitting hairs and all) people who disagree with Obama are racist.

Obama says that he does not believe that people who disagree with him are racist.

So... everything I said is basically right. Yes, I did it in a mocking way, but the point I was making was correct (only based on direct quotes and all).

Side: No
1 point

There are hundreds of thousands of people who claim Obama is a socialist. Clearly, they are the minority of Americans who can't give a shit about how other people feel. Former President Carter can say whatever Former President Carter wants to say. In fact, he may well be kind of right. Obama is fucking stressed out by all the problems he has to deal with.

A weakened financial system, the war on terror, an 11.2 trillion dollar deficit, the lessening of public confidence in the federal government. He's doing his best OK? He wants to make life easier for Amercans, and here we get lots of people bitching and whining about him being a socialist. These kinds of remarks have no basis in real life. I'd like to see those people try being President. Then America would really turn to shit.

Side: No
jtopolnak(158) Disputed
2 points

Obama is adding to the deficit by more than 4 times that. Obama no longer calls it a war on terror. I voted for Obama hoping that he would stand up for America instead he apologizing for us to other Totalitarian countries. Obama is losing people because he is scaring business away with all of his increase in taxes. If you research Obama his whole entire upbringing was by Marxist. I hope he is not as bad as he is starting out to look like that's why he is getting a lot of heat because a lot of middle road voters voted for him because he sounded pro private business and almost a blue dog but that is not to be. He promised transparency and he has not been.

Side: yes
1 point

NO! Why, because he's speaking the truth? I don't see anyone standing up saying it is wrong for white girls to go on national television, spitting in a black girls face, calling us ghetto, yet sleep with our men. They make me laugh how people say nothing when a white person does something to a black person. They laugh and continue, no one says a thing, But now someone stands up and admit that this America was built on hate and prejudice and intimidation, lies and murder. Now you want to speak up. Evil Bastards!

Side: No
0 points

Carter's certainly entitled to his opinion. I don't think racism is the only reason a lot of conservatives are riled up, but it's certainly a secondary or potentially subconscious factor.

To those who disagree, I'd like you to answer:

1. Why are all birthers conservative, and why do they believe he was born in Kenya, even though all the evidence is to the contrary?

2. Why were there dozens of signs like these at every mccain rally and teabagger protest?

http://www.bobcesca.com/images/obama_racist_sign_hussein.jpg

http://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/disgusting-racist.png

Side: No
itsnotright(24) Disputed
2 points

Not all "birthers" are conservatives. I'm not. Until all records are accounted for and a reasonable explanation as to why he paid over a million dollars to hide his records, I, along with other "truthers" will remain in lock step as to him being from Kenya. Becuase this is a very serious situtation. Needless to say it is forbidden by the Constitution. You know, the framework for this Republic. If he is not a natural born citizen, any and all law, policy, and descisions that were made by his administration are null and void. Have you any idea how much of a mess that is going to create? That, along with every congressman that supported him. They would be guilty of treason. All for simply not abiding by the Constitution they swore an oath to follow and protect. Also, by saying that last part, any politician that has attemtped and succeded in the railroading of the Constitution should be held accountable for their eagerness to divert from their original purpose of being an elected official, to represent the soveriegn, We The People.

Side: yes
2 points

I agree with you exactly on that issue he is the only president ever to lock up his files. Why is that. You should create a debate on that and see what the wing nuts think. I think that it should be mandatory that presidents open up their files so that we can see what they have written and where they are actually born. I'll tell you I have looked into it and this thing about his records goes deep. I did not know that it cost a million dollars for him to do that, that is scary what is he hiding?

Side: yes