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We take Socialists seriously. That's why we reject their ideology.

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Waylife(12) Banned
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We take Socialists seriously. That's why we reject their ideology.

But you lost the war, Bronto. The Russians captured your beloved Berlin in 1945. Nobody cares what you think anymore. They haven't cared for 75 years.

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Yes, the bolshevik Communists killed the Socialists, and the Socialists killed Jews. We've read history. Isn't it odd how all mass murdering regimes that aren't Islamic are obsessed with Marx and his teachings...

We've got the head Nazi arguing over Socialism and Marxism and uniting with the USSR to invade right wing Poland, and the head Fascist telling us he had a medallion with Marx's head on it.

Why is that do you think? Hmmmm....

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And what do we have here? Hitler literally calling himself a liberal...

We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists.

Interview with George Sylvester Viereck, 1923

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/AdolfHitler

Aaaah...the "right winger" who trashed God, trashed Christianity, preached Socialism, loved Islam, was pro drugs, and allied with Communists and Marx medallion wearing fascists...

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Hey look. More leftist Hitlerian babble...

National Socialism derives from each of the two camps the pure idea that characterizes it, national resolution from bourgeois tradition; vital, creative socialism from the teaching of Marxism.

Interview by Hanns Johst in Frankforter Volksblatt, Jan. 27, 1934, David Schoenbaum, Hitler’s Social Revolution: Class and Status in Nazi Germany, 1933–1939, New York: NY, W. W. Norton & Company, 1997, p. 57

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/AdolfHitler

And we have both Mussolini and Hitler praising Roosevelt's liberal New Deal. Hmmm...

I have sympathy for Mr. Roosevelt, because he marches straight toward his objectives over Congress, lobbies and bureaucracy." Hitler went on to note that he was the sole leader in Europe who expressed "understanding of the methods and motives of President Roosevelt.

[5] New York Times 1934, as quoted from: Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976) John Toland

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/AdolfHitler

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Jody(1791) Disputed
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I see you’re now banned from the debate on account of your constant trolling and general misbehavior, pity really as it gives you the opportunity once again to say you couldn’t answer my questions because you were banned .......

You shouldn’t get all butt hurt yet again , you should bask in the glow of satisfaction that Hitler put into action what his idol Marx proposed , take some credit son ........

BTW do you still think the prophet Muhammad at 57 years of age was correct when he took a child bride Aisha who was 8 years of age and consummated his marriage? You failed to supply an answer yesterday ......Let me help you said in the past you found nothing “morally “ wrong with it , is this still your position?

Also you still haven’t answered why you support Marx’s rabid racism why’s that?

I think at this stage a list could be compiled of the questions you cannot and refuse to answer , it would be one very long list

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don't allow this crap to be repeated ..... < Jim Jones 1978

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We take Socialists seriously. That's why we reject their ideology.

Hello bront:

If the statue of Lenin means Seattle LOVES socialism, 3 blocks away is the statue of a TROLL under a bridge. What does THAT mean??

Dude!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremont_Troll

excon

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That Seattle has a meaningless statue of a troll and a Communist statue of a Communist. Apparently they like trolls and Communists, or are their some capitalist statues you'd like to share with us?

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TX43 Disputed
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Apparently they like trolls and Communists, or are their some capitalist statues you'd like to share with us?

Yeah. I hear there's a great statue of Robert Mugabe in Chicago.

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Lenin and Marx and Hitler and Stalin never mixed democracy with THEIR forms of socialism. The U.S. has done it for years and has become the richest, most compassionate (until lately), country in the world.

It's kinda like making a good cocktail. Use grain alcohol and you get an unpleasant, bitter drink, use a good booze and you end up with a pleasing, relaxing concoction.

Nationalism, authoritarianism, communism, etc. don't mix well with socialism. It becomes bitter.

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Stop this people. I am always reminded at most blogs, do not ever underestimate the ignorance of the American people.

Our plutocrats in govt. have forced the taxpayers to throw trillion$ at the capitalist for 60 years. The govt. forces the socialization (taxpayers) to insure against bank risk, (FDIC) agric. risk, (FCIC) pension theft (PBGC) and overseas investment risk. (OPIC)

The whole ethanol market was created by socialism to the tune of billion$ every year to produce millions of gallons...the public doesn't need or want and is socialism for the rich.

The govt. forces taxpayers to provide price supports to dairy because dairy producers/investors bribe govt. feeling entitled to produce 3 times what the market demands.

Obviously that over-supply would deflate the price, so the govt. steps in and buys all it can using it for the military and often gives it away. The US taxpayers spends million$ per year just to warehouse govt. dairy products...we do not need.

This renders the whole argument about socialism only so much bullshit. The US yearly provides billion$ in socialism only the capitalist can love. Capitalism is for the poor.

As for socialism for the poor ? Fuck them, let them go to jail or just die.

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We take Socialists seriously. That's why we reject their ideology.

Hello bront:

As a staunch capitalist, I agree with you.. Socialism sucks..

But, you did tell us that socialism requires the government to own the means of production, and since Medicare OWNS nothing, it can't, by your very own definition, BE socialism.

So, if teeny tiny Medicare isn't socialism, then HUGE Medicare for All can't be either.. At best, it's capitalism with smidgens of socialistic programs thrown in.. You know, programs like the fire department, the highways, even the police..

excon

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