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 We've got a true leader! Trump's ideal's show the drastic divide between Dems and GOP. (37)

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We've got a true leader! Trump's ideal's show the drastic divide between Dems and GOP.

When it comes to immigration, Trump is speaking to a more merit based system whereby we have requirements for people trying to come to this great nation. Much like any employer, we should have resume's for people moving to America. We should be looking for the values and hard work ethics that will help our nation. We need no more possible criminal elements or people who have disdain for our values.

This notion of merit clearly shows the stark difference between no fault anything goes Leftwing politics, and Conservative ideals such as personal accountability for the choices we make. The Left seems to revel in enabling irresponsibility, because these people will be career Government dependents voting for Democrats. The Democrat immigration motto is now...."Give me your drug addicted, your antagonists, your criminal elements, your huddled malcontent masses yearning to breathe free.”

There are so many examples of divides between the Left and Right.

Lets take welfare requirements. For the Left, it matters not how many times you choose to live irresponsbly, such as taking illegal drugs and becoming addicted. They want tax payers to enable your addiction rather then the tough love requiring you getting off drugs before expecting tax payer support.
Yes, we all know the Left's usual excuses of how it's not your fault!

In any great nation, we must always reward personal responsibility, while showing the tough love of not enabling irresponsibility.

I'm not talking about getting rid of safety nets for the disabled and helpless. I will always support helping anyone in life threatening situations, but this is far different then enabling destructive behavior.

Trump is what a true a leader must be. He tells it like it is whether it bothers you or not. He is not a bleeding heart Liberal afraid of speaking to right and wrong. He lifts up the values that will heal our nation, rather than embracing destructive behavior tearng it down.

The Democrat Party is now completely controlled by their extreme Liberal base. They don't even dare clap their hands for record low unemployment data within their voting blocks. They must hate Trump no matter what!
-FromWithin
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When the other party won't even agree with you that America is great, you should stand for the National Anthem, and to respect veterans, there is no middle ground left to compromise on.

Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
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You "should", but you don't HAVE to. You "should" respect Veterans, you "should" stand for the anthem and say the pledge of allegiance. You don't HAVE to. That's what makes America great. You have the freedom to be an utter ass, up to a point.

joebloggs(10) Disputed
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You "should", but you don't HAVE to. You "should" respect Veterans, you "should" stand for the anthem and say the pledge of allegiance.

I completely disagree. Sorry.

Americans have been utterly brainwashed into a military culture. They are persuaded to support the military regardless of whatever it does. The people in power propagate the stupid myth that the American military defends freedom, when the actual fact is that it has never even fought a war on its own shores. What the American military does is fly to different places around the world and kill people for no other reason than someone higher up the food chain commands them to. That's the bottom line.

Americans are exceptionally emotional, and it is these emotions which are used to cloud their judgement so that they can be persuaded to think a certain way. In summary, America is basically one big experiment in propaganda, and we are seeing the high end of that scale right now with the Trump presidency.

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@minttea

Republicans all do what you just said should happen.

If you support people who you admit should be respectful but are not, how do you think we, Conservatives, view people who admit they side with disrespectful anti-Americans?

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Yes, I agree that personal responsibility should be toted. But saying Trump is a great President is a VAST overreach. He is doing some good things, I DO like that those on disability need to essentially show why they are on it and are asked if they can work in certain conditions. I applaud that.

But for Trump to be a truly great President he needs to stop acting like a petulant child.

Also..

Now we will hear those on the Left judging some past sin by Trump. This is all they have because everything Trump is doing today is making America great again.

LOLOLOL!!!! HOW many times have we heard the whines of "but her emails..." or "His birth certificate!!"....over and over and over and over again.

mrcatsam(663) Clarified
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To be clear, I'm not responding to Fromwithin, because I hate that dumb twit.

Anyway, His insolence makes that huge field of water in space (look it up) look like a kiddy pool that got drained for the winter. OF COURSE THERE ARE DIFFERENCES!!!! Thats why you guys have TWO parties instead of one, no?

The only thing Drumpf (his actual name) is doing is doing one of those incredibly fake football flops every time a liberal says something wrong. EVERY DAMN TIME! Yes, everyone does some things wrong. But the conservatives don't seem to be bothered that he's endorsing white supremacists, making two quarreling Dutch boys look like Muslims beating each other up, and all the while waving his big fat arse at everyone and saying how Liberals are horrible. Then he goes into his HUUUUUGE private jet, eats McDonald's, and the whole thing starts over.

Then he apologizes. I guess that fixes his blatantly visible prejudice for Muslims, doesn't it? OR his inability to denounce white supremacy? Hmmmmm?

So the next time you want to criticize Brits, think about your own problems, which I'm pretty damn well sure you have enough of.

Mint_tea(4641) Clarified
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We actually have more than two parties, it's just the Republican and Democrat are the majority. I'd love to see a third party squeeze in there to shake things up a little.

I agree the Conservatives don't seem to give a damn that their orange boy has shown time and time again that his ignorance and willingness to spread his own batch of lies is limitless and he's never really apologized for it, he passes the blame.

Also, I've never criticized Brits.

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Now we will hear those on the Left judging some past sin by Trump. This is all they have because everything Trump is doing today is making America great again.

The Left hates the fact that Trump is proving the benefits of Conservative values and policies.

-FromWithin

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Trump has shown leadership and to have the courage of his convictions by proceeding with his ' All American' policies of self reliance, industriousness and 'AMERICA FIRST despite the liberal loonie left snapping at his heels and trying to disparage the success of his presidency.

Trump doesn't suffer life's whinging parasites gladly with their, oh poor me mentality, and the world owes me a living syndrome, and expects everyone to do their bit within the scope of their abilities for their country.

Trump isn't popular with those perfectly healthy layabouts who slouch around street corners drug dealing or spending their mugging proceeds and/or benefits cheque in the boozer playing pool and talking shit about how the politicians and business tycoons are lazy.

Every patriotic ( I make no apology for using that term ) should fall in behind our duly elected President and ensure his MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN work.

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We've got a true leader! Trump's ideal's show the drastic divide between Dems and GOP.

Trump's ideals? Ahahaha! You are absolutely barking mad @FromWithin.

I'll give you an example of Trump's ideals. He hired dozens of immigrant workers to complete work on his properties, failed to pay them, and while he was fighting the civil suits brought against him for ripping these people off, he was simultaneously standing up on stage blasting immigrants for being criminals and lazy good-for-nothings. At one point, the New York Times worked out that he had rejected 94 percent of job applications from Americans.

Trump is a liar, a bully and a hypocrite, so it is little wonder that he appeals to other liars, bullies and hypocrites.

pizzathehut(41) Disputed
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It's quite the site watching nomenclature's puppet call anyone a liar.

And if you think billionaires are using illegals for free work, and demand they flood over the border to be ripped off but make our buildings and roads, you're pretty sick.