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What are the arguments against The Big Bang Theory?

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What was before the big bang, what caused the big bang, what is the universe expanding out in to ( it relates a lot), where did matter come from in the first place, how did the initial singularity form e.t.c.

I used to be all " Ah Christians are crap, Religions sucks nah nah nah, the big bang theory is true, we know it because" Then I thought, live and let live :L I'm not going to live me life concerned about things in the universe that could never effect me, there is still so much on Earth we have yet to discover, so many very, very small things we need to look closer at. Whether it was the Big Bang theory or something else, I don't know. But there is an event at some time or another that formed the universe we know today, and the Big Bang Theory simply doesn't add up.

BUT IT'S STILL A LOT BETTER THAN SOME FUCKING MAGIC MAN IN THE SKY AND HIS ZOMBIE DEAD SON/INCARNATION OF HIMSELF SO DON'T THINK I'VE GONE SOFT!

trumpet_guy(503) Clarified
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Be careful about sarcastically misrepresenting something, you can destroy any argument like that but its a logical fallacy. If not the big bang, then what, how did we get here? The "magic man" could've cause the big bang.

xBetzy(123) Disputed
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Sure but any intervention afterward can be discredited. Deism not Christianity

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Something cannot come from nothing.

Jungelson(3959) Clarified
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Disproves what Christians say about God then..!

Warjin(1577) Disputed
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I can because none of what any religious book says including the bible can say for certain, no one on Earth can, it's all speculation not fact, so until then it's just a hypothesis like any other, well a guess because for it to be a hypothesis it has to be a educated guess and that not the case when it come to religion.

Nebeling(1117) Disputed
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Something comes from nothing all the time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_fluctuation

For short amounts of time, energy can be created out of litterally nothing.

Intangible(4934) Disputed
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Ahhh, but maybe it only appears as if it's nothing.

Maybe it is actually coming from somewhere. Somewhere not visible to the human eye...

Warjin(1577) Disputed
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Yes but only within the realm of physics, the particles that give chance for something to come from nothing came from something or somehow (I didn't want to say someone because then the Christians would of had an orgasm lol just saying), that's the giant unknown the question that many scientist seeks including myself or any rational mind.

Anthonyhook(178) Disputed
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according to the article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_fluctuation ) there was Quantum fluctuation, and energy, that is not nothing, it is something.

Life can not just "poof" into existence without an intelligent creator.

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Nothing I love that show ;) on a serious note though how can a bang so big cause the universe to expand even to this day come from nothing or even a few particles?

AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
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Well it wasnt an actual bang, it was the rapid expansion of space time. There really wasnt any explosion, pure expansion and on such an enormous scale that it was able to create the universe as we know it today. But think about it, the universe is huge sure but 99% of it is the vaccum of space with "nothing" in it (like dark matter and stuff but that isnt significant matter compared to real matter) and 1% is actual matter and gravitational forces within stars and gasses and planets and meteors and the like. And it also didnt come from nothing, it came from a point of singularity in which all of the matter in the universe was contained. it is unknown what triggered the expansion, but it is believed that no outside source of power was needed and that it triggered from within the point........................oh wait...you arent really making this argument are you?

Sky Daddy did it but i dont know how, why or when nor that he actually exists but i feel like he does and i think all this stuff from a 2000 year old translated hebrew text is accurate.

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As a person who supports and studies science, I have to put my foot down when it comes to what we know so far about the big bang, the thing is all scientific data breaks down when we discuss and theorize what happen before the big bang.

Ok I can accept that the universe within the realm of physics came from nothing, (or something came from nothing) but what many scientist fail to realize is, what created the quantum particles to even exist for the big bang to come from nothing?

Theoretical physicist like Lawrence Krauss and Steven Hawking are a few of those supporters that fails to realize this, in Lawrence Krauss's studies (which I support until a certain point) claims that empty space is a pool of boiling particles "in a nut shell to make it easy for most to understand", (I would have to go deeper in that but most would be lost the moment I started to go into quantum physics), anyways there the flaw right there, "what and how did the particles in empty space get there, what created them, how was it created?

Saying nothing they were always there is a cop out of an answer rather then saying Okay, there is something but I don't know what, they keep claiming there is nothing outside our known laws of psychics and I find that arrogant and close minded if you claim to be a scientist because if there is one thing in the universe that is FACT, it's the existence of the unknown and that unknown is what science is all about.

The unknown is where all science as we know it breaks down and goes to crap because science as we know it can only exist within the law of physics not outside the realm of reality, so there is an unknown, a giant ? ? ?, some call that God, and for good reason, but we will never know for sure unless we have a way to measure things outside the realm of possibility.

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The main argument is that it contradicts the very theory it's based on.

I mean general relativity.

If all of the universe's mass was initially located in one point, then immediately after the Big Bang, all matter would be behind it's event horizon.

If would therefore just be a black hole, and the matter would get sucked in into the singularity.