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 What are the arguments against creationism? (24)

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What are the arguments against creationism?

not just arguments against a god but against there being a superior power that created the universe

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Bill Nye says, "there is no proof of it."

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And he'd be right.

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Yah I saw that which I strongly disagree with him I believe creationism has plenty of proof that God created the universe. God did will the earth into existence out of nothing because He is God and He has the power to do make the earth in an instant.

Colossians 1:15-18 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

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1: There is no valid and compelling logical argument for it.

2: There is no empirical proof of it, nor can there be. There can be no proof because in order to have such, we would have to go beyond all that is created, as a created being, in a repeatable, observable way.

3. All the arguments against a god.

4. Even if there is a god(s), that doesn't mean he (they) created everything.

5. Occam's razor.

Troy8(2433) Disputed
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There is no empirical proof of it, nor can there be.

Some would argue that there is empirical evidence for God. For instance, miracles that seemingly have no natural cause of explanation, like the miracle at Fatima or miracles at Lourdes.

casper3912(1581) Disputed
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Miracles are not repeatable, and thus are not empirical proof. They are at best just anomalies, related statistically to our observation methods.

ricedaragh(2494) Disputed
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like the miracle at Fatima or miracles at Lourdes.

Such as?

The arguments aren't really arguments, they're skepticisms.

There really isn't any physical, material evidence for creationism at all just because someone says there is.

Give me empirical evidence of creationism and I will look into it.

But shouting at me that it's real without any empirical evidence is flaw in reasoning, and therefore can be upsetting.

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While there is no proof as such that creationism as a concept is false (the creationist story as laid out in Genesis can be proven to be false, however) the most compelling argument for me is that creationism isn't necessary. There is no reason to assume a creator; there is no need for one. There is no reason to suppose that gaps in our current knowledge about the universe's creation will never be filled, and can only be filled with the assumption of a creator. A creator is unneeded complexity - like the others I follow the principle of Occam's razor.

I don't know that there are any arguments against creationism. It seems like people from the Cult of Christ are the only ones who really give a shit about the topic, which is why it keeps coming up again and again and again. But the deal with the cult of Christ is that they won't accept any answer that you give them, but they still expect you to stand there and argue with them again and again and again. And it all comes down to we're all going to hell and they're not. So, fuck us.

Troy8(2433) Disputed
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Not all Christians have that attitude, your generalizations are very divisive.

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And yet you're about to ask me to argue with again and again. And then, you will explain to me that you're a more soft-hearted kind of Christian, who'd like to get to know me a letter better. You'll be quietly praying for me.

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To believe that the code that created trillions of living organisms from one molecule of inert material is unbelievable. There will never be any proof because we cannot go back in time, to the exact time and place where life started. But I believe, it is important to note that neither argument is a smart one since there is nothing to prove or disprove either one.

ANY superior power capable of creating humans would have to be conscious. As a conscious individual, if I ever created anything like humans, I would have destroyed them long ago. Only unconscious evolution is capable of creating humans and letting them fester in their own filth.

But that's just me ;)

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Creationism is the view that the origin of the universe and the manner in which life came to exist on our planet is all explained accurately within the text of the christian bible. The portion of the bible that explains this was borrowed from one of the first literate people, the Jews who found the alphabet to be quite a powerful tool indeed. So profound that the writings that described the origins of their people were said to come from god and could not be contradicted. Christianity still refers to the same writings today as indisputable even though science has proved the story impossible. The text contradicts itself quite often as well, evidence that it was written by multiple authors that didn't have the benefit of checking for continuity. So belief in creationism is to reject reason. Rejecting reason stunts human progress and growth.

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Here in TN, they have taken steps though new legislation to allow creationism back into the classroom. This law turns the clock back nearly 100 years here in the seemingly unprogressive South and is simply embarrassing. There is no argument against the Theory of Evolution other than that of religious doctrine. The Monkey Law only opens the door for fanatic Christianity to creep its way back into our classrooms. You can see my visual response as a Tennessean to this absurd law on my artist’s blog at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/ 04/pulpit-in-classroom-biblical-agenda-in.html with some evolutionary art and a little bit of simple logic.