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32
Yes please. No thank you.
Debate Score:45
Arguments:39
Total Votes:54
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What are your thoughts on socialism?

Yes please.

Side Score: 13
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No thank you.

Side Score: 32
2 points

Hello N,

As an economic system it sucks. Socialism never made a country rich. I am a dyed in the wool capitalist. I love being the master of my own ship. But, in areas where success of the individual take second place to the success of society, socialism works quite well.

Your fire department is a perfect example. The means of production are owned by the state. Everybody pays in, and everybody is covered even if you don’t pay in. That’s socialism personified. It works well with healthcare too.

Can you imagine a capitalistic fire department who will watch your house burn because you’re late on your payment?

excon

Side: Yes please.
FromWithin(8241) Disputed
1 point

You must be missing something. Many of our fire departments are volunteer and work quite well. They do not require any of that so called evil capitalistic money to put our fires out.

Government bankrupts most everything it touches. I agree there are a few things that Government must do such as military, police, etc.

These things are not called socialism.

Side: No thank you.
excon(18260) Disputed
3 points

Hello F,

You’re talking about the fire department payroll, and I’m talking about how the fire department is funded. Clearly, nobody in your volunteer fire department bought the truck or bought the building that houses the truck. Those were paid for with taxes and they’re owned by the taxpayer.

excon

Side: Yes please.
CucumberHole(76) Disputed
1 point

Nothing is owned by the state. We, capitalists, paid for the water, the trucks and anyone who gets paid, or so Obama tells us.

Side: No thank you.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Who says one makes a payment to the fire department you Flaming DumbASS

Side: No thank you.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Hey Dummy are you proud of the Fire Department in Cuba LMMFAO

Side: No thank you.
2 points

It's probably the most fair system created so far. Instead of the individualistic mindset of capitalism, socialism is much more profitable for the country as a whole, not just a select few.

Side: Yes please.
1 point

There has never been a "perfect" political or economic system. Capitalism is FAR from perfect, democracy is not "perfect". A combination of democracy and socialism, to my mind, is the most "FAIR" system I can think of. Any system that isn't properly regulated by the majority of the people WILL run amok, as capitalism is today, and WILL become unfair and unbalanced. Deregulation, or the allowed ignoring OF regulations, caused the disaster of the 2006 era. It will happen again, or worse, we will become an oligarchy as a handful of billionaires as Russia is NOW! (Just what Putin and Trump want!)

Side: Yes please.
CucumberHole(76) Disputed
2 points

How exactly is it "running amuk"? This is the richest country per person in human history, and it isn't even close.

Side: No thank you.
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

In the late 1800's capitalism "ran amok" and the country was run by, not a President, but by 4 billionaires. Railroads, mining, steel, shipping ran the country and we ended up with food lines and "employment by corner pickup. Those that would work for enough to buy some food worked, others rioted to save their dignity (and the country)! The "appointed President" died suddenly and the Vice President (put there by the rich to keep him under control), became President. Teddy Roosevelt cut down the oligarchy and turned the country around to MAKE it the richest country! We are backing down the same road pre-TR! Under the subtly guiding hand of Putin and the arrogance of Trump! Richest country in the world?? In ten years, if we don't again shut down the oligarchs, we will not be! Not even close!

Side: Yes please.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Well spoken you Socialist and by the way would you like to live in Cuba or Venezuela ?

Side: No thank you.
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

Neither. I don't like communistic socialism. Communists get control of the vote (like the Republican Party did over the last few years), and only the votes they LIKE have a chance. Like Herr Gropenfuhrer's buddy, Putin. HE gets over 70% of the vote ;-) …. He'd better, or people will "disappear"! I worked in Venezuela several times, have a lot of friends there. I hate to see America going the way their country did! THEIR vote means nothing, hasn't for several years.

Side: Yes please.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

You are an IDIOT Al reason being you are Water Carrier for the Party and totally oblivious to reality.

Side: No thank you.
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
2 points

You are an IDIOT outlaw, reason being you are a water carrier for the party and totally oblivious to reality.

Side: Yes please.
1 point

Socialist reds telling us they're afraid we'll become Russia. There's a laugh.

Side: No thank you.
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

The COMMUNIST reds (of the red states), seem to LOVE the thought of becoming an oligarchy ... billionaires controlling the government! If they GET control, do you think they'll want to take a chance at LOSING control because there are so many citizens with guns running around? And a military with many thinking THEY and their families are being short changed and almost all of the money is going to the "chosen ones"?? Do you think the majority of people in Russia think they are? That's why communism has never worked! The PEOPLE don't like it! Only the oligarchs that share their money with the government, who share their POWER with the "good guys with the money"! If this keeps up, kiss your guns goodbye!

Side: Yes please.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
0 points

Obama did such a great job in 8 years that the Progressives went down in flames as of 2016. Now Old Crazy AL when it comes to billionaires are you talking about the likes of Tom Steyer ? He is a Progressive Billionaire you Stupid Idiot !

Side: No thank you.
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
0 points

Old Crazy AL the Progressive Tom Steyer is only worth 1.61 billion dollars. So do you have a problem with billionaires AL ?

Side: No thank you.
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

Not ALL billionaires, just the ones that only care for the MONEY, country be damned!

Side: Yes please.
3 points

It's how you'll end up with the Antichrist. Think about it. How does some leader get the power over food and rations? Socialism. You have the mark, you get your food ration. Just as the Bible foretold. It's coming. Get ready.

Side: No thank you.
2 points

Any person with half a brain understands how corrupt Government is.

So tell me who in their right mind would want bigger Government controlling our lives?

Who could possibly want to give these corrupt politicians more of our hard earned money, watching them squander it away for political purposes.

I guess the people voting for the Democrat (Socialist) Party possess less than half a brain.

Side: No thank you.

Socialism is the trick that Communists who have invaded your country try to sell you to make you Communist just like them.

Side: No thank you.