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 What are your thoughts on women proposing to men? (12)

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What are your thoughts on women proposing to men?

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Are you trying to figure out if it would be okay for you to propose to dino-boy?

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No, I'd prefer it if he proposed to me, and we're not at an appropriate stage in our life to be proposing anyway, even if I want to. lol

Though I'd be lying if I said it hasn't crossed my mind. hahaha it's not something I'd actually consider.

:) And I think it's an interesting topic.

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Well then, to answer your question, I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with a woman proposing to a man, but it really depends on the people involved, and the relationship they have. A lot of guys might popping the question is an act of courage that they need to "man up" to, and if the girl asks first, it kind of steals their thunder.

On the other hand, if the guy has been trying to work up the courage for a while and just hasn't been able to work up the nerve, he might actually feel relieved if the girl asks first.

Also, I firmly believe that the best relationships involve one stubborn person and one easy going one, and it doesn't really matter which one is which. In a relationship like this, if the woman is the stubborn, domineering one, and the guy is easy going enough to be okay with this, then it just kind of seems natural that the woman would be the one to propose.

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The only case where a woman should propose to a man, is if she was monarch.

I think it shouldn't matter either way whether or not the girl or the guy proposes first, when someone proposes and the other side agrees they want to be with that person, we should be happy that such an amazing thing is happening rather than focus on whether or not it was the guy or the girl. In today's society we have certain expectations for men and women, and that is men have to be the more dominant one and the woman has to be the more passive one, and I think that those kind of traits are common in their genders but that doesn't mean they are necessarily always the case, and in nature with every species because different genders tend to correlate with certain traits the species accept that, that is how things are.

A lot of times the male is the alpha in most species and the rest protect the female, and in some rare cases it is the opposite with other species. This is not necessarily how it has to be though, and we are more evolved than to accept that the male ALWAYS has to be the strong courageous one who goes after the mate, and the female having to just wait for another mate to pursue her because she is not gutty enough to find it herself. I mean I am not saying that it is bad for girl to be more passive and wait on others, and other males to be the one always pursuing, but it has become part of our society that any other way is "wrong". That it is humiliating for a guy to be proposed to by a woman because it make's him less of a guy, and it's apparently weird for a woman to propose to a guy because it makes her less of a girl is a primitive mentality that I personally think should be thrown away, and we should rather simply be happy when two people love each other.

I think when it comes to attractions we have these superfluous instincts that served us a great purpose at one time or another before we became more civilized, for example a lot of people still value a healthy body over a healthy mind, when at one time it was a healthy body that helped us survive and live better lives, it is now a healthy mind that serves a greater purpose merely because our society is our way of life now, and our society only works and exists because we evolved to use our brains more. I'm not saying however that it is wrong to be turned off by someone who is in horrible shape, because 1.) it is our instincts it's just how we naturally are and 2.) a healthy body still makes a BIG difference in quality of life.

When searching for another person to spend your life with, we all want what we think will make us happy, and health has a lot to do with happiness. Which is why we look for smarts and personality as well in someone, because we want to be with someone who will make us happy, and if our significant other is a jerk we won't really be that happy now will we?

I feel as though that my say here is getting a bit off topic as I connected my thoughts on women proposing to me to other things as well. My thoughts in a nutshell are the only reason it is unorthodox that women propose to men is because of our superfluous instincts carried on from our primitive days manifesting itself in society as a social rule, and that there is nothing wrong with it as far as I am concerned.

I think in this age of equality, a woman proposing to a man would be a nice option.

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I don't think women should propose to a man because to me its not right. I don't see women proposing to me that often. Its the man's job to ask out the girl to be his girlfriend and its the man's job to propose to the women to ask her to marry her because the man is suppose to get down on one knee and propose.

zephyr20x6(2387) Disputed
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I don't think women should propose to a man because to me its not right.

Why? what is your reason that you think it is not right? justify your stance, have an actual debate on here rather than stating what you personally believe just because.

I don't see women proposing to me that often.

Well considering the fact that your aren't even 18 yet, that does not surprise me, you ever propose to women? if not then what does that matter? Women have proposed to you as many times as you've proposed to another woman, and if not, what is someone your age doing going around trying to get married? Secondly, yes it is rare, because of our society we have made it a social rule for it to not happen. So because it is rare that women propose to men, women shouldn't propose to men? Since it was rare for black people to be treated like human beings back in the day should we have kept treating black people as if they weren't human being?

Its the man's job to ask out the girl to be his girlfriend and its the man's job to propose to the women to ask her to marry her because the man is suppose to get down on one knee and propose.

sarcasm: WHOA, that is definitely not circular reasoning, men should have to propose to women because men have to propose to women. I can't argue with you there can I? Why is it our job? What makes US have to do that? I mean I don't mind being the one to propose but why do I have to be the one responsible for it? If another girl that I love with all my heart asked me out, should I turn her down because it was my "duty"? who says it is my duty to ensure that I am the one who advances things?

Why is it wrong for a woman to pursue another man? Give me a logical, rational reason to think that it is wrong for a woman to ask out or propose to a man.

Cuaroc(8829) Clarified
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Because it goes against the fairy tale book he follows.

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Saurbaby(5581) Disputed
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Okay, now I feel like replying to this, and since you messaged me pointing out that I simply down-voted you at first, I expect you to actually argue back and debate with me.

Your statement, as I said in messages, is sexist. You basically are saying that you want men to keep all control and women to just sit around and wait. Wait to offer dates, dating, and marriage. Why should women sit around and wait? Why can't women take control in the relationship?

It's about equality. You're trying to keep that it's not equal.

Saurbaby(5581) Disputed
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And THIS is why I don't bother replying to your arguments. You very rarely respond, at least to me.