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I disagree with both of these statements. I think it is wrong to try to deem an entire group of people good or bad based on a shared characteristic. Judge people as induviduals's for their own actions, not through stereotypes.
I don't think that I am good to debate. I jumped the thread out and one of my hostile said that my english was so terrible. I also think that I am not a good debater. So sorry, but I am proud to be a moslem, I wear my hijab to cover all what I possess.
I personally hate Islam. Its probably the most abhorrant, repugnant, immoral religion on the Earth today. I dont hate muslims because they all follow it to a different degree. But i do think theyre all stupid. really stupid.
stupid? I don't think so. You were just saying like that because you never know the inside of Islam, i you are now averse Islam, or said that they are stupid. It is totally wrong. because they know where they'd go.
I wonder why you are an atheist. I am not stupid, but you. You're really ahh totally stupid. If you're not stupid, you would understand what the words that I already said.
m:You were just saying like that because you never know the inside of Islam
y:Good im glad ive never bombed a school
is that your ans? really stupid, I also wonder, do you ever go to school? Didn't your teacher teach you right? I don't think so.
ah, one point more, see this, stupid.
m:because they know where they'd go
y:...what? Where are they going? Hopefully not to an airport
haha, I never assume that you are now in high school. you should not go up and stay in the kindergarten class, it was so suitable for you, if you never understand the parables. You're so stupid, all about thinking.
I wonder why you are an atheist. I am not stupid, but you. You're really ahh totally stupid.
I'm stupid? Did you read that grammatical nightmare you just wrote?
is that your ans? really stupid, I also wonder, do you ever go to school? Didn't your teacher teach you right? I don't think so.
If i were on the inside of islam i would be getting fitted for my bomb vest. It was a joke that you clearly didn't get. Just think REAL hard now and you might just get it.
haha, I never assume that you are now in high school. you should not go up and stay in the kindergarten class, it was so suitable for you, if you never understand the parables. You're so stupid, all about thinking.
Again, holy shit take a fucking English class! Damn its like talking to Tonto or something. And once again, IT WAS A JOKE. You said they know where they're going Ie- paradise I'm assuming. I made a joke about them going to an airport because they jack planes and fly them into buildings. Get it?
And i want you to re-read that last sentence you wrote. just re-read it and tell me what's wrong with it.
Okay, okay, the war is over. I am so sorry. this is just a debate place. I shouldn't go such that. Sorry, yeah my english was so terrible, is it? so sorry for making you confused lol. and, again. before I undergo my fasting, pls forgive me okay, thanks
He isn't a REAL muslim. He's a neutered muslim. Sure its great that he's adapted his beliefs to fit modern society. But it isnt real islam. If he was a real muslim he'd have moved to Iran where he could practice his insane, violent faith with the rest of the herd .
It is hypocritical for you to whine when people stereotype atheists, and than you go and stereotype Muslims. If you want tolerance and respect, earn it.
No actually. Because the stereotypes of Atheists are just simply wrong or vast over generalizations. The stereotypes of muslims however are proven truer and truer with every jihad carried out .
I don't know. The ones that say we're immoral, sickos, with weird fetishes and who hate God because of some freak accident that happened in our past, seems pretty accurate to me.
No. What im saying is every atheist stereotype is basically just flat out wrong. HOWEVER, the muslim stereotypes are actually kinda accurate seeing as most muslims are concentrated in the middle east where the laws are different and they are allowed to do crazy shit.
Thanks love. I know what true Islam and true Jihad are. I know that Allah is not some pagan moon God like many conservatives says. Allah is Arabic for The God, end of story. Jihad is a general struggle against evil, not bombing stuff. Anyone who claims to struggle against evil is a Jihadi really. I am a Christian, but I love Muslims a whole lot. Let me know if you need a non-Muslim to help you education people.
I'm sure your well qualified to established who is and who isn't a "real" Muslim. Really, your drivel here isn't logical. If you have contentions to a people's culture and philosophy, expound on them. I was raised Muslim by Sunni immigrants that moved to the States escaping the Lebanese civil war. A very backward ideological state of mind by our standards, yet religious tolerance was still a fundamental aspect of the faith's education. " You have your faith and I have mine". Do I find the faith despicable? Yes. But it seems very ridiculous to claim that it cannot properly manifest itself in modern society. That is sorta how religions are designed with their near unlimited potential for subjective interpretation.
Precisely. All you did was support my point. Most muslims today, like your family of immigrants, have altered their beliefs. Subjectively interpreting them to suit the 21st century mind set. They arent REAL muslims. When i say real muslims i mean muslims who practice straight from the Quran word for word. Literalists if you will.
Most muslims today, like your family of immigrants, have altered their beliefs. Subjectively interpreting them to suit the 21st century mind set.
Electricity and the concept of windows are still utilities they aren't accustomed to. By no means are they in any type of modern mindset. And all religion is subjectively interpreted, there is no way to identify a "real" Muslim.
When i say real muslims i mean muslims who practice straight from the Quran word for word. Literalists if you will
I was raised in the faith by Literalists and yet still raised with the value of religious tolerance. I fail to see your distinction. Hadith very clearly demands tolerance as a practical application of Islam.
Electricity and the concept of windows are still utilities they aren't accustomed to. By no means are they in any type of modern mindset. And all religion is subjectively interpreted, there is no way to identify a "real" Muslim
True there may be no real muslims left in the world at all, however, the middle eastern ones in Iran and Afghanistan are as close as it gets nowadays. Theyre as close to a real muslim possible making your family not even comparable. And that isnt an insult by any means, its a good thing.
I was raised in the faith by Literalists and yet still raised with the value of religious tolerance. I fail to see your distinction. Hadith very clearly demands tolerance as a practical application of Islam.
If you were taught religious tolerance then that was not from the Quran where it demands the killing and enslaving of every infidel possible ESPECIALLY Jews. Sorry, you were lied to.
True there may be no real muslims left in the world at all
Which again is nothing but your own subjective claim.
the middle eastern ones in Iran and Afghanistan are as close as it gets nowadays
You have never read Hadith, the prophet Muhammad's application of Quran into life scenarios. The countries you listed clearly haven't either.
Quran where it demands the killing and enslaving of every infidel possible ESPECIALLY Jews
The Quran was written during the uprising of the religion, a remarkable feature among religions. Hence, it was written during a time where being monotheistic let alone Muslim was a dangerous thing and the geopolitical nature of the era was simply brutal. Hadith is Islamic teachings in practical applications separate from the historical context of the religious text from Muhammad himself for the very reason that Quranic versus would be later misconstrued(a very important verse of the Quran deals with Muhammad being given a vision into the future where he realizes the societal changes will make a huge difference).
Sorry, you were lied to.
I'm glad I have you, someone who hasn't been raised in that culture nor portrays any real understanding of the faith, to explain the lies and illusions told to me by Sunni Lebanese Literalists about their faith. Please, continue with your all-so-objective analysis of Islam.
don't ever say which you never know before, satan. You are moron. And I am totally not. Whatever, I really don't care with all of your crap words. Iran? How dare you mention it! I am not Iranian. you should keep your mouth.
If they didn't lie about their intentions (btw, they're even allowed to lie in their religion), I might be inclined to view them slightly more favorably. Slightly. But they're still a religion of war, through and through.
I have no patience for fools. Perhaps, if you asked nicely, I might reconsider. But due to my ideology and manifesto I am under no obligation to provide answers, or anything else for that matter, for those I view as inferior. To be fair, I shouldn't even be continuing this conversation, but I wanted to make it clear that it is not that I cannot provide evidence for my claims... but that I simply choose not to since it is obvious you will not listen. And I am not supposed to waste my time on those who stop up their ears like the little piggies they are and pretend the big bad wolf won't come to their doors and blow their entire world apart.
So, goodbye, and may you have better luck expanding your mind in the future.