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 What does support for Trump mean for the future of the religious right politically? (5)

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What does support for Trump mean for the future of the religious right politically?

https://thinkprogress.org/how-trump-just-made-the-religious-right-implode-in-less-than-a-week-d47a058945a1#.17j495icm
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I think Trump has delegitimized their movement. The left has been pointing out their hypocrisy for a long time but they have always been able to hide behind things like "family values" and "love the sinner, hate the sin". Now that they have supported the candidate most antithetical to "family values" in recent political history it will be very easy for the media and democrats to dismiss their usual talking points. The next three weeks are the last chance for republican leaders to salvage what dignity the party has left by abandoning and denouncing Trump. It is quite depressing watching the same people who criticized the infidelity of Bill Clinton now defend Trump.

Hopefully this entire episode will result in a cleaning house of the evangelical and republican leadership. If they could bring down the average age of their leadership by 5 to 10 years they would have a much better chance at being competitive.

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There will always be politically active groups from many religious backgrounds. I don't actually agree with this article's assertion that the conundrum of whether or not to support bad boy Trump is destroying the religious right. I find that naive.

I do think, however, it hurts the branding of the religious right, because any candidate who isn't a model Christian raises questions about why true believers would support him. A temporary setback but a setback nonetheless. And I also think, were Trump to succeed in becoming President, he would systematically betray enough of the religious right that there would be a messy and public fight over what to do and who is to blame for putting him in.

While Trump's lifestyle is antithetical to the religious right, their main interest is in the Supreme Court vacancies he would fill; that's the main reason they will support him.

What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad.

http://youtu.be/2JDABgV30Dw

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He will try to be fair, it would be nice to have balance in society.

Hillary will swing even further left, no fairness or balance.

So I'd she wins brace yourself. I think 2017 is significant in some way. It's going to be a Hell of a year anyway no matter who wins.

6000th year 2nd millennial AD 17th year. 2017 May be the start of the beginning of the end. Jesus said it will be just like the days of Noah...

Genesis 7

11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened.

12 The rain fell upon the earth for forty days and forty nights.

13 On the very same day Noah and Shem and Ham and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife and the three wives of his sons with them, entered the ark,

Genesis 7

17 Then the flood came upon the earth for forty days, and the water increased and lifted up the ark, so that it rose above the earth.

18 The water prevailed and increased greatly upon the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water.

19 The water prevailed more and more upon the earth, so that all the high mountains everywhere under the heavens were covered.

20 The water prevailed fifteen cubits higher, and the mountains were covered

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It's all going to go down, God is ultimately in control, do our part and vote, but the outcome is line with the final agenda, and that belongs to God!

I'm trying to figure out how to get some of the beasts on board. Two by two. Male and Female.

When the Ark door closes it won't open till the end.

Luke 11

21 When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed.

22 But when someone stronger than he attacks him and overpowers him, he takes away from him all his armor on which he had relied and distributes his plunder.

23 He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me, scatters.

24 “When the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and not finding any, it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’

25 And when it comes, it finds it swept and put in order.

26 Then it goes and takes along seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first.”

27 While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed.”

28 But He said, “On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it.”

29 As the crowds were increasing, He began to say, “This generation is a wicked generation; it seeks for a sign, and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah.

30 For just as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so will the Son of Man be to this generation.

31 The Queen of the South will rise up with the men of this generation at the judgment and condemn them, because she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and behold, something greater than Solomon is here.

32 The men of Nineveh will stand up with this generation at the judgment and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and behold, something greater than Jonah is here.

33 “No one, after lighting a lamp, puts it away in a cellar nor under a basket, but on the lampstand, so that those who enter may see the light.

34 The eye is the lamp of your body; when your eye is clear, your whole body also is full of light; but when it is bad, your body also is full of darkness. [ my note - understanding related to the scripture - "in a twinkling of an eye"]

35 Then watch out that the light in you is not darkness.

36 If therefore your whole body is full of light, with no dark part in it, it will be wholly illumined, as when the lamp illumines you with its rays.”