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 What happened to "Live and Let Live" (12)

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What happened to "Live and Let Live"

After reading todays story about gay marriage in New York and all the critical comments i found my self disgusted.

 

What happened to letting people live their life how they want? Why does it hurt me if there is gay marriage? Most of the comments where down right violent.....

Try to help me understand the urge people have to force everyone to believe as they do because i really don't get it.

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That is very true indeed. What a person does on personal levels as to be nobody's business especially not those who must have made a million other mistakes. To point at something harmless is just preposterous.

Most opposition to Gay marriage comes from the Religious. To them it is an abomination, they use their right to protest to the extreme. What gets me is, why don't they just practice their religion and as you say "Live and let live" especially Christians, a civil union between two partners of the same sex is not a union in the eyes of God, so what should it matter, surely if they think about it rationally their souls will be saved while the "sinners" will be punished. Jesus said "judge ye not, lest ye be judged yourselves" modern Christianity is not in keeping with Jesus' teachings at all.

Most Christians are afraid that God will do another Sodom and Gamora. In christian history, no gay civilization is left standing so... they're sorta afraid they'll get caught in the crossfire if they start to accept it and get God angry.

I know I'd be scared poop-less if I thought God WOULD do that again...

But I go more by what Jesus said about loving other people. Hatred is the exact OPPOSITE of what Jesus wants, although I don't think I agree with homosexuality as my OWN lifestyle:

Therefore I actually DO go by live and let live becasue I think hate is more of a sin than what? Staying away from it personally and praying for whatever outcome God really wants? (Cuz I sure as heck don't know what HE wants. and I'm in no position to judge for God.)

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And now that I think about it, I think that Christians today might be quieter about it. The only real church doing that really crazy stuff is Westboro, and as I've said on other sites, those guys are not Godly at all. They're nothing more than hypocrites abusing the Bible. Because it IS true that Jesus said to love others, and they ONLY show hatred. You need to love other people instead of judge them.

Side: darned westboro

What I want to know is: WHY do homosexuals want to get married anyway??

Haven't heteros already shown that marriage isn't that... great anymore?? It's not sacred even by OUR standards.

Why don't they make their own type of ceremony and Both sides will be happy?

That would include the same rights as marriage, it just wouldn't be called marriage I guess.... and it would be something they created as a community, and they could decide to make it a ceremony even more sacred than what the heteros had.

Just saying.

Side: why do they WANT marriage
icwhyte(64) Disputed
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I'm not sure how it works in the USA but in Spain where i live they allowed gay marriage mainly for reasons of inheritance, buying property, rights to not resuscitate etc. mainly they where given the rights that married couples have as the law didn't recognize living together as giving the partner any rights over the other in case of death or illness.

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gcomeau(536) Disputed
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"That would include the same rights as marriage, it just wouldn't be called marriage I guess...."

Yeah... and for short we could call this policy "separate but equal" or something.

Side: They're scared
Animegirl300(26) Disputed
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??? <__< Meh.

Although I can see where you're coming from, I actually don't mean it in a way to say I even want them separate:

I'm more stating why the heck they would WANT it period, and giving a way to make it easier 9___9

(If They WANT to get married then fine! Not my issue anyway XD)

But meh. Foot in my mouth on that one.

Side: They're scared

Try to help me understand the urge people have to force everyone to believe as they do because i really don't get it.

BUSYBODIES

Side: They're scared
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The simple answer is usually the correct one! They have nothing better to do than to complain about others.

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I do not have fully developed opinions on how society should deal with homosexuality, (and I don't hate gays)but I will make an argument and see if anyone is up to challenging some portion(s) of it.

There is a mental component of the human reproductive system that governs sexual attraction. If it develops without too many problems, males will be attracted to females and vice versa. Healthy mental-sexual development is largely dependent on social interactions that support it. Social influences can effect mental development in both healthy and unhealthy ways. A persons natural sexual tendencies can be either overly suppressed or overly stimulated at an early age, and end up causing any number of sexual disorders including homosexuality.

The opposition to gay marriage is a response to attempts to further normalize a disorder. Is it societies place to draw boundaries on what is acceptable and unacceptable sexual behavior? Sure it is.

Is it societies place to dictate what grown consenting adults do sexually in the privacy of their own home? Most people I've met would quickly respond with a resounding NO, unless I injected "with children looking on"

That should be enough to provoke a dispute! :)

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It is now 2015 and the Supreme Court has declared Gay Marriage the law of the land.

Side: They're scared