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 What is Good about Socialism? (58)

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What is Good about Socialism?

Socialism as an economic system is legalized theft. Most people would consider theft "bad" In socialism there is no incentive for achievement, in layman terms things like cell phones, or video games, facebook, would not have been created in socialism as there would be no benefit to the creator. In socialism the only people with wealth are the officials who are in charge of the wealth distribution. Please for the supporters of this fill me in on the "Good"
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Socialism as an economic system is legalized theft.

This is quite literally the most stupid, unforgivably false accusation imaginable. Socialism aims to correct the legalised theft which goes on when the profit produced by your labour is stolen by somebody else who uses it to makes themselves rich. Socialism aims to create a world where people are entitled to the full fruits of their own hard work.

Frankly, you can fuck off. Liars, con men and general exploiters of our species have been telling the same lies about socialism for over a hundred years.

smilinbobs(600) Disputed
1 point

In socialism the government takes the bulk of the money by threat of force (theft) I don't give the government 1/3 of my earnings because I know they will spend it better and more responsibly than I would, I give them 1/3 of my income because they take it from me by threat of force if anyone but the government does it it's called theft. The Government calls it taxation.

KarlMarx-(24) Disputed
1 point

In socialism the government takes the bulk of the money by threat of force (theft)

I agree that taxation is theft and I agree that socialism steals. It steals back what was stolen by the government, banks and corporations and gives it to the community.

Cocopops(345) Clarified
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That just about sums up socialism.

It's great until they run out of other people's money to give away to the workshy benefiteers and illegal immigrants.

After making their inevitable economic mess they roll over and let a conservative administration balance the books and then have the audacity to criticise the austerity measures which were necessary to introduce to rectify their eye-watering ineptness.

smilinbobs(600) Disputed
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I'm trying to understand what you mean by the profit of your labor is stolen by someone other than the government to make themselves rich. I see how the government is doing that to me right now. Currently if I do work I get about 2/3 of what I have earned and the government steals the other 1/3. What are you talking about?

KarlMarx-(24) Disputed
1 point

I'm trying to understand what you mean by the profit of your labor is stolen by someone other than the government to make themselves rich.

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Cocopops(345) Clarified
1 point

The best thing about socialism is that it corrals most of life's resentful losers into a political party whose ideology is based on the creed of envy, the gospel of failure and the creed of failure.

It's inherent virtue is equal sharing of the misery it unfailingly creates wherever it is imposed by fanatical despots.

Life is a competition, and like all competitions there will be winners and losers.

Socialism is where the non-achieving failures congregate to shout their spiteful and meaningless blustering at the successful.

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I am not a Socialist. I am a supporter of the closest Capitalist system to Socialism; Social Democracy.

I will, however, explain their reasoning to you on this particular 'theft' angle:

They argue that money itself is something that the society constructed and thus it is that same society that those who make money owe. This is why it's called 'socialism'. Communism goes further in reasoning and revolves around an anarchic community, as opposed to a strategised society.

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What is Good about Socialism?

Hello smiler:

As an economic SYSTEM, it doesn't work for the reasons you articulated.. But, within a capitalist system, "socialism" has its place.. Of course, it depends on HOW you define socialism too.. For example, I think Social Security is a form of socialism.. Medicare is too.. Same thing with your local fire department and the interstate highway system..

But, when I've argued that point, I've been told that those are simply government services and NOT socialism.. Ok.. Under that definition, Medicare for ALL wouldn't be socialism either.. But, I'll bet those same people would say it is..

excon

smilinbobs(600) Disputed
1 point

Social security is a socialist program and the government abuses it. If people put wealth away on their own example IRA without government it would be better for everyone but politicians.

Medicare is also heavily abused if the government wanted to do the right thing with healthcare they would open Government hospitals separate from the regular ones and those who didn't pay for insurance could go to them.

The fire dept is another thing which communities could ask the members of the community to support and it would be fine.

Socialist programs are not needed and no one should be required to give between 1/3 and 1/2 of their wealth to the ruling class so they can spend it like a bunch of drunken sailors.

excon(13151) Disputed
1 point

The fire dept is another thing which communities could ask the members of the community to support and it would be fine.

Hello smiley:

I dunno... When I call the fire department, I want 'em to come, NOT check my payment history..

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outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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You are an IDIOT ! Do you take FICA reductions from your employees there BUSINESS OWNER ? Does the BUSINESS OWNER know what FICA reductions are ? Come on SUPER STUPID BUSINESS OWNER and step up to the plate you LITTLE GURL

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Are you as the DUMMY you are saying FDR was your SOCIALIST HERO ???????????????

At the age you proclaim to be you should be aware of FDR there DUMMY !!!!!!!!!

outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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SUPER STUPID did your DUMB ASS forget to mention the FIRE DEPARTMENT ??? ROTFFLMMFAO !!!!!!!!

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Socialism is wonderful if you’re an unemployed waster as it basically means if you get employment and sign a work contract your employer is really a thief and you and your fellow socialists have a duty to “ seize” his business and keep it for yourselves .

Incidentally I did say “ if you get employment “ this rarely happens as the socialist is a sponger who prefers to moan about the injustice of it all , it’s in their nature as Marx himself never did a days paid work in his miserable life

jamesbody(267) Disputed
3 points

Socialism is wonderful if you’re an unemployed waster

Guys, here is a screenshot Mingiwuwu sent me. Before you take a word this nauseating racist moron (i.e. Jody) says seriously, I suggest you open it and have a look.

https://i.imgur.com/ppHq8dZ.png

KarlMarx-(24) Disputed
2 points

Socialism is wonderful if you’re an unemployed waster

Socialism (particularly Marxism) is all about the struggle of the working class you ignorant nonce. It is specifically workers who are exploited because their labour is used to profit the class that does no work. Capitalism is a system where you are payed either way less or way more than you are worth.

your employer is really a thief

Yes, the 1% are thieves. This should not be some kind of twilight zone moment for you, you blockheaded dullard.

paying workers less than the value they create so you can profit is theft.

Taxing the public to bail out the 1% is theft.

And invading poor countries to take their resources and installing puppet regimes that allow the US to continue exploiting them is theft.

“ seize” his business and keep it for yourselves .

The earth's resources should belong to no one, and thus everyone. There will be no more "his" or "her" business, only the means of production to which everyone has access.

ncidentally I did say “ if you get employment “ this rarely happens as the socialist is a sponger who prefers to moan about the injustice of it all

Your retardation is impeccable. You have the form of a special olympics gold medalist sir. Literally the most brilliant people in modern history are socialists. Einstein and Nicola Tesla were socialists, name a single capitalist who achieved what they did. The true spongers are bankers, politicians, celebrities and corporations.

Marx himself never did a days paid work in his miserable life

You fucking donkey omg. You are just fgghfgjdfjdtjtyhdytjtyj soooooooooooo stupid. Marx was an economist, journalist and author. He wrote many articles and books including a 3 volume critique of capitalism called "Das Kapital" each volume of which is around 800 pages.

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Marx was an economist, journalist and author.

Yup. He worked tirelessly as a journalist in London for over a decade. Jody just says things. He doesn't give a shit whether they are actually true. He's just a child looking for a reaction.

Jody(1356) Disputed
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It is specifically workers who are exploited because their labour is used to profit the class that does no work. Capitalism is a system where you are payed either way less or way more than you are worth.

Yes Hitler agreed with the Marxist view

your employer is really a thief

Off course sign a work contract and then call him a “thief”

Yes, the 1% are thieves. This should not be some kind of twilight zone moment for you, you blockheaded dullard.

Thank you Adolf

paying workers less than the value they create so you can profit is theft.

Taxing the public to bail out the 1% is theft.

And invading poor countries to take their resources and installing puppet regimes that allow the US to continue exploiting them is theft.

Zzzzzzzz

The earth's resources should belong to no one,

Except socialists of course

and thus everyone. There will be no more "his" or "her" business, only the means of production to which everyone has access.*/

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Your retardation is impeccable. You have the form of a special olympics gold medalist sir. Literally the most brilliant people in modern history are socialists. Einstein and Nicola Tesla

Telsa the wealthy capitalist is now a Marxist .......bwaaaaaahahahaha

name a single capitalist who achieved what they did

Sure , Telsa did as he was a ........capitalist

. The true spongers are bankers, politicians, celebrities and corporations.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

You fucking donkey omg. You are just fgghfgjdfjdtjtyhdytjtyj soooooooooooo stupid. Marx was an economist, journalist and author. He wrote many articles and books including a 3 volume critique of capitalism called "Das Kapital" each volume of which is around 800 pages.

Yes he wrote his “bible “ at home while Engels paid his bills through his very successful capitalist business as I said he sponged his way through life like the racist loafer he was