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What is Orwellian?

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ORWELL'S 1984

Newspeak is the language of Oceania, a fictional totalitarian state and the setting of the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949), by George Orwell. To meet the ideological requirements of English Socialism(Ingsoc) in Oceania, the ruling Party created Newspeak, [1] a controlled language of restricted grammar and limited vocabulary, meant to limit the freedom of thought — personal identity, self-expression, free will— that threatens the ideology of the régime of Big Brother and the Party, who have criminalized such concepts into thoughtcrime, as contradictions of Ingsoc orthodoxy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

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Gender Neutral / Gender Inclusive Pronouns

A gender neutral or gender inclusive pronoun is a pronoun which does not associate a gender with the individual who is being discussed.

Some languages, such as English, do not have a gender neutral or third gender pronoun available, and this has been criticized, since in many instances, writers, speakers, etc. use “he/his” when referring to a generic individual in the third person. Also, the dichotomy of “he and she” in English does not leave room for other gender identities, which is a source of frustration to the transgender and gender queer communities.

People who are limited by languages which do not include gender neutral pronouns have attempted to create them, in the interest of greater equality.

https://uwm.edu/lgbtrc/support/gender-pronouns/

Berkeley Removes Gendered Words Such as ‘Manhole’ from Its City Codes

The city of Berkeley, Calif., is going to replace all gendered words in its city codes — such as “manpower” and “manhole” — with gender-neutral ones such as “human effort” and “maintenance hole.”

It will also replace all gender-specific pronouns (like “she” and “he”) with “they.”

The new ordinance passed easily and without discussion, according to a piece in CNN.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/berkeley-removes-gendered-words-such-as- manhole-from-its-city-codes/amp/

Facebook Jail

Those standards include a laundry list of things that make sense including (but not limited to):

Violence and Criminal Behavior

Credible Violence

Integrity and Authenticity

Coordinating Harm

However, there’s an item near the bottom of their list that stands out:

Objectionable Content

The problem with calling something “objectionable” is that everyone objects to something.

This is simply about taste: some people will find it amusing, others will not. When you censor taste/preference, you’re heading into dangerous territory.

https://nathantimmel.com/2018/what-i-learned-while-in-facebook-jail/

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ORWELL'S 1984-

In keeping with the principles of Newspeak, all of the words listed here serve as both nouns and verbs; thus, crimethink is both the noun meaning "thoughtcrime" and the verb meaning "to commit thoughtcrime". To form an adjective, one adds the suffix "-ful" (e.g., crimethinkful) and to form an adverb, "-wise" (e.g., crimethinkwise). There are some irregular forms, such as the adjectival forms of Minitrue, Minipax, Miniplenty, and Miniluv (Ministry of Truth, Ministry of Peace, Ministry of Plenty, and Ministry of Love, respectively – all ministries of the active government in Nineteen Eighty-Four).

https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/List ofNewspeak_words.html

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Big tech's censorship of conservative users is alive and well

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/cybersecurity/397047-big-techs-censorship-of-conservative-users-is-alive-and-well?amp

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Dupe

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Used to describe a political system in which the government tries to control every part of people's lives

So the opposite of the left again, then?

Like most writers of the 19th century, Marx tended to use the terms communism and socialism interchangeably. In his Critique of the Gotha Programme (1875), however, Marx identified two phases of communism that would follow the predicted overthrow of capitalism: the first would be a transitional system in which the working class would control the government and economy yet still find it necessary to pay people according to how long, hard, or well they worked; the second would be fully realized communism—a society without class divisions or government.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/communism

So the left wants no government, and what does the far right want?

Oh yes. A Hierarchical overreaching state with a supreme leader:-

Adolf Hitler and his Nazi Party (NSDAP) controlled the country through a dictatorship. Under Hitler's rule, Germany was transformed into a totalitarian state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany

So you're trying to change black into white again, aren't you, Herr Imbecile?

How's your wife by the way? Still hates you?

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Pretty telling when you ignored the points on the other side. The right has none of these traits. The left has all of those traits. Pretty easy isn't it?

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Pretty telling when you ignored the points on the other side.

Bronto I will personally give you ten dollars for any "point" you make about any topic which stands up to 30 seconds of scrutiny. You don't make points. You distort, omit and regurgitate wartime Nazi propaganda.

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To meet the ideological requirements of English Socialism(Ingsoc) in Oceania, the ruling Party created Newspeak

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

Nice of Orwell to actually call these clowns Socialists, isn't it nom?

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Nice of Orwell to actually call these clowns Socialists, isn't it nom?

Nice bit of feigned ignorance there buddy. Or maybe it isn't feigned. Maybe you really are dumb as fuck.

Capitalism is a major theme throughout the book 1984 the false ideology of a socialist economy is evident through social status because of how people were treated based off their rank in the society. Just like a capitalist society, some individuals have access to more resources than others.

https://prezi.com/bldrwclb6mhx/1984-capitalism/

Capitalism used in 1984 by Orwell

https://www.verbalworkout.com/u/u100/u615345.htm

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