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Debate Score:11
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What is it that people really want? Something more or something else?

We all have wants...the question is, do we just want MORE than what we currently have, or is it that we just want something else (that we don't have or have never had/tried/experienced)?

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They want more of something else. Or more of anything they haven't got, it's human nature. Like wondrous riches and a limitless supply of gorgeous nymphomaniacs, well just for starters at any rate.

Side: something more

What you want depends on if you're saved or not.

I'm saved. I owe God. I have to do His work here on Earth. I want only to please Him and know His will for me.

People who ain't saved want to have their physical and material wants satisfied. They want to be special. They want full bellies and alcohol numbed brains and orgasms. They are as lost as animals. Worse really since animals are innocent.

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I completely disagree with demon hunter, although we take the same side. It's not about being saved. In fact, it's not about religion at all. It's about human nature.

Everybody wants something more. Whether that 'more' is more money, more happiness, or more success, it doesn't matter.

People a lot of times also want something different, but that 'different' coincides with the goal of obtaining more. However, sometimes people just want more of the same, so something more seems to me like the better choice.

Say someone wanted less money. They didn't want it for no reason. Say they wanted to have more real friends. Maybe they just did it out of the blue, because they want more spontaneity in their life. Even people who are 'saved by God' want God's approval. You want to please [God]? You might want Him to respect you more, or maybe you want to feel more satisfied in yourself. No matter what it looks like on the surface, it is human nature to want more. And under the surface, there will always be a cause.

I don't know everything. I won't pretend to. I admit that my 'always' in the last paragraph was a blanket statement, as of course that isn't always true. There is probably no one thing that people want. People in my experience do things because they want more than they already have. Maybe some people don't. It's a possibility that I won't disregard, but the above statement was the closest I could come to answering your question truthfully (to the best of my knowledge) within the two answer choices.

Wait so is this about racial bias?? Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding the question. If I am, sorry.

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Demon_Hunter(635) Clarified
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Everybody wants something more. Whether that 'more' is more money, more happiness, or more success, it doesn't matter.

But it does matter. it matters because God want you to learn to know Him and have a relationship with Him, and love Him. As a Father to a beloved child. and if you do not heed His wishes, and instead you opt for loving temporary earthly and self-indulgent things, then you are an ungrateful child. A Serpent's tooth. and if you even think that you are a Christian, like saintno, but have a huge ego and seem to want only people to listen to you then you are still a serpent tooth because you are putting your ego ahead of god.

Jesus said it was easier for a camel to pass thorugh the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to Heaven. He meant that its not just having money that makes it hard to know God, but its the love of money, or riches, or wealth and ego. some rich people will go to Heaven, if they don't put their money ahead of their relationship with God. And some poor people will go to Hell because they wallow in their own ego. the meek will not necessarily inherit the Earth. Or the poor. Only those poor in spirit--meaning they have given up ego and strive to know God.

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logicaljoe(529) Clarified
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In general, yes, I think people want "more" whatever it is. But it's not entirely true. Many people don't want more. They want less. That's where the phrase "less is more" comes from. Not having more of anything necessarily means better. Sometimes people don't want more, they just want something else or something less.

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Totally agree with you.

Side: something more
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What AlofRI said makes sense to me unfortunately I'm going One Step Beyond. I believe we have gotten America to the point where it's people no longer know what they want anymore. We say that rap music is bad for you but we have businesses supporting rap music. We have pumped ups people's chest by saying "Stand Your Ground" so now everyone's packing cold steel just waiting for you to look at them funny. The number of brutal confrontations on videotape seems to be endless. It would also appear that we have no problem showing our racial bias on city buses, fast food restaurants or out in the street which we identify as road rage. The idea that one can believe in nothing makes them a good person if however you believe in something you're a bad person.

Of course if you don't believe this "Go Ahead, Make My Day!"

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AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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Again, we agree ... mostly. I am one of those who "believes in nothing" if you are referring to religion. That said, I have NOTHING against anyone who does have a belief. Christian, Muslim Jew, Hindu, etc.. I DO dislike any radicalism of ANY religion/cult/organization. I consider trying to pass laws with ANY religious agenda that restricts the freedom of others to stay with THEIR beliefs, whether religious or not. Live and let live is a good way to put it, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. I don't think ANYONE is a bad person for believing in something, unless they insist everyone believe THEIR way.

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wisegrip(132) Clarified
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As hard as it is to believe I also don't believe one should force their beliefs on others which include those that don't believe in faith base concepts. Your statement " Live and let live is a good way to put it" really isn't how most times in America we don't live that way. Children have to worry they can't play outside for maybe being kidnapped. Females have to worry if they can reach their car before being attacked. Store clerks wonder will this customer be the one to harm them and more of these condition citizens have to deal with regularly here in America.

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"More than we currently have". NO! There are always a few, but, the majority want what we PREVIOUSLY had, before Reagan. A fair chance at "The American Dream"! That went away with the destruction of the middle class and the redirection of the country's money AWAY from the working people.

It makes me sick to hear "WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK", when MOST of that is coming from those who knew NOTHING about America BEFORE Reagan! When WE could be happy to work for a living because WE could get somewhere! The people REALLY responsible for the "slow recovery" are currently in the obstructionist Congress and the obstructionist Senate. WE need to vote them out! If we don't, what we REALLY want will get farther and farther away!

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I tend to lean on this side. I think the notion of wanting "more" is actually overrated. Of course for only a few things like say money and happiness, we want more. But for the most part, I think people just want something else. They have something and get tired/bored of it, and want to try something else. Something else doesn't necessarily mean it's more. In some cases it might be "more" and other cases something else might be "less", but irregardless, it's something else and that's what they want...a new experience, a different setting, a fresh start.....it's that whole "the grass is greener on the other side" mentality, when in reality, it's not really greener, it just seems like it because you are tired of what you have now and you want something else and something else always seems greener until you have it and then the cycle repeats itself endlessly.

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