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True and Legitimate Stupidity and Political
Debate Score:15
Total Votes:17
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What is the birther movement of accusing the President as a non legal citizen?

  Republican Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana still supports the movements of birthers suggesting that Obama is not legal citizen of the United States.


True and Legitimate

Side Score: 4

Stupidity and Political

Side Score: 11
-1 points

It it walks like a Kenyan and talks like a Kenyan, then it must be a Kenyan ;)

Side: True and Legitimate
Cicero(239) Disputed
2 points

If it walks like a Kenyan

Don't you mean if it runs like a Kenyan?

Side: True and Legitimate

Yes, you're right ;)

Side: True and Legitimate
victor01(146) Disputed
1 point

You know if your parents are legal citizens and perhaps they are Kenyan and they have a child, it is still a Kenyan no matter what. Legal or illegal.

Side: Stupidity and Political

First, under Article 2, Section 1, "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

Therefore, Obama was born in America proven by this birth certificate

However, under the British Nationality Act of 1948 and the subsequent Kenya Constitution, Obama had duel citizenship of the United States and Kenya.

Furthermore, When Obama turned 23 on August 4, 1984, he had to choose between citizenship of America or Kenya due to Kenya's law of sole adult citizenship.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1984.

Side: Stupidity and Political
3 points

Yeah, the question is ridiculous. You can literally look up his birth certificate online. Plus, there is no debate his mother was a US citizen. If your sister travels to Europe and happens to pop out a kid while there, that kid isn't European no matter who banged her. I mean, ignoring Obama was born in Hawaii even if he were not he'd still be a US citizen for fuck's sake. You need to jump so many sharks to come to the conclusion he isn't, I am wondering if these people should not be institutionalized.

A better question would be, are people really that stupid? Or is it cynical racism/politicism?

Side: Stupidity and Political
1 point

I strongly dislike what Obama is doing in office right now and as much as I would like to believe that he was not born in the United States so that he can get kicked out of office, there is proof out there that he was born in the United States. His father was an illegal citizen but his mother was a legal citizen. He was born in Honolulu Hawaii which the last time I checked was in the United States.

Side: Stupidity and Political

It is now 2015 and this whole Birther movement is stale. Some people just want to engage in a folly.

Side: Stupidity and Political