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 What is up with all the right-wing extremism lately? (42)

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What is up with all the right-wing extremism lately?

Seriously, what do you guys think is the primary reason? We haven't been seeing crazy evirnmental/anit-corporation left-wing  terrorism. What's the trigger for all of this nonsense?

Are they just freaked because they can't handle "dem libruls" in power? Or is it specifically Obama and they think the black man's going to turn their country into Little China?

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Sounds to me by the way you phrased your question you are looking for more for people that agree with you than you are a debate?

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As you can see from the format this is not a two sided debate. The question is why is this happening lately. If left-wing extremists committed two acts of terrorism in 11 days I would be asking the reverse question. I am no partisan, and my wording of the question reflects what many right wing extremists believe. There are people who think Obama is literally the antichrist or whatever. That is relevant. You could have just put you think there is no coincidence and actually try to participate, but you instead say nothing by trying to implicate me as a partisan. Sarcasm and hyperbole, look them up.

ThePyg(6737) Disputed
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you've inspired me to ask why Left Wing extremism has killed more people than any other radical extremism... (Communism).

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dtrimble(32) Disputed
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I see what you are saying. May I ask, did you see the "?" at the end of the sentence?

That implies a question....maybe I was wondering what you meant by the way you worded it.

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Side: What extremism
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I have not noticed anything. People have a right to be upset about people they do not agree with in power. Your problem is that just because someone does not like Obama does not mean that you are racist.

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iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
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Is it hard to breathe in that bubble?

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My favorite part about Dr. Tiller's murder is that the suspect was called a murderer, but the Muslim who killed an army recruiting officer one day later was called a terrorist.

But Dr. Tiller's murder is really sad. Later-term abortions and abortions in general are a necessary evil, and I have read countless stories of women who are incredibly thankful to his services and the compassionate and gentle way in which he rendered. Now that he is dead his family is closing his clinic and there are very few late-term abortion doctors. Fortunately I heard another doctor is going to start offering late-term abortions. It's still sad that someone who risked his life to help other people was murdered because of a magical space god.

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MKIced(2510) Disputed
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He lives in Anchorage, cut him some slack. I haven't heard of those stories before either. And I live in New Jersey.

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My problem? Are you really so stupid as to believe my question implied that for all right wingers? No one said that tugman, but to rule that out as a possibility when people are are being killed is naive at best. The holocaust museum killer was a white supremacist, that's a fact. Not liking Obama is one thing. Killing people over your political views is something completely different.

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They feel they are losing control. Anytime there is a major change in a society, even if that change is only in perception, elements from the opposite side resort to violence.

Terrorism is the only final result of extremism, whether it's al-quada flying planes into towers, McVays blowing up buildings, kids shooting up schools, or "pro-lifers" ironically killing law abiding doctors.

In their own head they see the world crashing in on them... meanwhile nothing all that mind blowing is going on right now, but in their heads the world is changing in some terrible way, and the ends they think justifies the means.

In this case the catalyst is a liberal and black president. Meanwhile in real life anyone who knows anything about politics can see pretty clearly Obama is not nearly as liberal as liberals believed, and certainly not as liberal as the right wing likes to make-believe,

but you have talking heads and a cable news network propogating completely false ideas like he's a muslim, he doesn't have a birth certificate, he's a socialist, etc, etc.

Now these people, the government they live in has completely gone to hell they think, they think there is no hope, and there is always some personal trigger on top of this. They listen to Rush and Mike Savage and Ann Coulter who never come out and say it's okay to blow shit up and kill, but they insinuate,

and that's who these people listen to, and so they kill, and blow shit up.

It's not surprising, infact the Bush administration was given a report of the possible rise in extremism the months after if Obama were to be elected...

You know what the right wing did with it?

Pay attention because deep down we're all Americans and the voter decides who wins elections?

Of course not, they made the author apologize.

Well here we are... big surprise.

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Hmm, two cases and the Liberals pounce... I love it.

Well, I guess we should start with Tiller:

Obama's response to Tiller's death "shock and outraged"

Obama's response to military recruiter's death "deeply saddened".

Makes sense though, Obama supports late term abortions and has always been against the war. So of course he'd be pissed off at death of a guy who did exactly what he supported and only saddened (as we always are by any death) at the death of a military recruiter.

So anyway, Tiller's death was covered a shit load. NBC even tried to blame Bill O'Reilly for his death. It went on and on about Right Wing extremism and holy shit, look at the right wing extremists!!!! Yet, when the army recruiter died, most of the news didn't even want to say the guy's name (is Islamic name which he changed it to), they used his birth name. LOL, talk about fair coverage. And, of course, nothing about Radical Islam was said. Except on Fox News, but of course they'll report EVERYTHING...

So anyway. The holocaust memorial. Yep, another sad story about how some racist faggot goes and kills a guard at a holocaust memorial. The thing is, he's an old white supremacist who snapped. It wasn't about Obama (because he would have gone to the Lincoln Memorial instead), it was just about his hatred towards the Jews. In fact, it would be more appropriate to relate this event to the situation in the Middle East since Israel is nearly impossible to take down. The fact that Jews can be so strong probably finally pissed this guy off so he went to the Holocaust Museum and decided to start shit.

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iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
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It's not that there were 2,

It's that there were 2 in 11 days.

And yeah, these people listen to right wingers like O'Reilly, who refer to him as a "Tiller the killer" and they take it as a free pass to commit violence.

And I know you know at least enough about the human psyche to realize that having a "muslim, socialist, fascist, baby killer" in office is the catalyst that puts these psychos over the edge.

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ThePyg(6737) Disputed
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1. possibly.

2. Well, he is a baby killer in a way. Just because you call him a baby killer (which everyone calls a later term abortion doctor), doesn't mean that it's their fault for someone else killing him. Tiller was covering instances of child rape and was performing late term abortions with no legal reason (which is why he was facing charges). O'Reilly criticized him for it. and he did the right thing. it's sort of fucked up to say that O'Reilly is somehow responsible for this man's death.

3. No, it's not what puts a man over the edge. He had man beefs before and was a convicted felon. He had even kidnapped a federal worker many years before. Plus, he was having many struggles with the Recession. Maybe he found out that his house was close to being foreclosure or that his light was going to get shut off and he decided that the Jew Capitalist pigs were responsible. That is what these anti-Semites think... It's always the corporate jew's fault.

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Sorry, I don't consider myself a Liberal. I'm more of a centrist libertarian, but thanks for playing.

Your paragraph about Obama parsing words is paranoid at best.

Your paragraph about other news organizations not talking about the recruiter is factually wrong, but I can understand this if you only watch FOX since that is exactly what they were claiming. CNN,HLN, and MSNBC all ran the story accuratey. Your bias is showing.

Your paragraph about the Holocaust museum shooter is pretty close t the truth and generally I agree.

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ThePyg(6737) Disputed
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1. yeah... i never called you a liberal. I said the liberals pounce (those are the types who generally pounce). But I'm glad to see that you're a "centrist libertarian". you must be an advocate of gun rights and against government spending and taxes...

2. It was more of a joke.

3. I said that all they mentioned about the Islamofascist was his birth name. They spent a shit load more time covering the Tiller death... you know, blaming it on O'Reilly. I actually watch CNN and MSNBC as well, just to see if they ever run a story to it's full... so far, MSNBC never does, CNN usually does. Fox, always. Lulz.

4. thanks.

Side: extremists always resort to violence
hillary12(-3) Banned
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there is a lot of left wing extremism like that guy obama he is a lberal pussy

Side: What extremism
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I find the word "extremism" interesting.

The left is so scared by the conservative movement that they are throwing lies and words like "extremism" around like a couple of monkeys throwing their poop. [and NO that wasn't a racist comment, find something els]

We start to get involved more and care more and exercise our rights peacefully and we are suddenly extremists.

What about the media and all of Hollywood trying to sway everyone to the left. That's not extreme? If you don't see a clearly liberal media that has too much control, then you are probably on crack.

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