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What kind of Universe do we live in?

With so many mind boggling things in Physics one thing that has always fascinated me is time and our relation to it. Are we just pawns in a pre-recorded chess game destined to run our course thinking that we are in control of our actions?

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I have no idea.... I'm just thankful it's not one of those 'Dry Universes'. ;)

Side: Deterministic
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We live in a deterministic universe as much as quantum physics will allow.

Let's just take free will as an example, from the day you were brought into existence you have been nothing more that your genes reacting to their environment. Every choice you make is the only choice you can make with the information, and environmental and genetic pressure you had at that time. Because you can never control the information or these pressures until you initially react to them, you never actually have control.

The same goes for all non-quantum scale events in the universe, it is all reaction, quantum scale events may be as well, we are just unsure as to what causes them to react in the way they do.

So my argument is the most justified belief at the present time is Deterministic. I'm not denying an appeal to quantum scale events, just that we don't know enough about them to say they are not caused. I understand it is impossible to prove they are not caused events, but more research is required before we say "I don't know what caused this, lets assume nothing".

Side: Deterministic
2 points

A bit of both. We can choose a course of action leading to a number of possible outcomes, but we can't choose what will happen after we take that course. The thing we can't choose could be pre-determined to happen. We also don't choose our genesis, that just happened, which would add some weight to the possibility that everything is predetermined because the start of all things happened without our choosing.

Side: Probabilistic
2 points

There is no efficient determinism on quantum level, simply doesn't work.

Side: Probabilistic
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There's no reason to assume that anything is pre-destined you boob. Hi john, check out my new video on the YouTube :3

Side: Probabilistic